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Quote:For me Regen isn't even in the same league as WP when both are IO'ed.Quote:As for the claws regen Iggy mentioned earlier. I watched the Rikti Video with only the tier 1 or 2 attack being used. While that was definitely impressive, being one or two attacks (or seconds) away from death multiple times during the encounter kind of drove home the point when I can afk in the same situation on my DB/WP for 10 minutes and never see my HP dip into the red.
So I guess all other secondaries are not in the same league as your DB/WP then -
you talking about defense?
If so then BS or Katana can get softcap to melee, range and aoe. Might be a bit harder now due to the changed on BotZ but still possible. The only thing is how playable the build would be. -
Scrappers!!!!
hmmm... which ever one I'm currently playing -
Here's another sample build to look at
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Here's mine...
cost a bit high, but well...
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1. Depends on how many DA you'll be needing
2. Very... on GC
3. I like CoF
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Quote:My Claws/Regen might have something to sayYou might get a combo like Kat/Regen that is better at taking on a few S/L based hard targets, but Kat and BS are outliers because of the crazy high defense you get out of Divine avalanche. Size up combos like DB/WP and DB/Regen or Fire/Regen and Fire/WP and the willpower is much much better off at taking on larger spawns without breaking a sweat.
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Confront?
I usually just smack them on the head to get their attention -
I remember PF doing it.
Took a shot at him with my katana/WP before, but after 15-20 minutes and barely making a dent... I gave up. Might try him again later. -
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Should really pick those 2 up as soon as it opens
+def on PP and +HP/+res on TG that cost no endurance!!! -
Quote:reverse psychology wont work I guess...It doesn't suck, but it certainly isn't the best contender due to it being relatively difficult to soft cap (not impossible, though) and it having no +Regen, +Dam, +Rech or a quickly recharging heal.
I think Invuln is great in the damage mitigation department, but it could be slightly better in either damage recovery or offense. I have no idea how I'd do this, though... Maybe slight +Regen in Dull Pain like Energize has? Or then plug unenhanceable +Regen into the passives, but that might make them too powerful.
Then again, I think Invuln is pretty much fine as it is, but who wouldn't love some more power?
Was looking for the 10 minutes video I made with my claws/inv sitting in front of Silver Mantis, surrounded with 9 wolves, using nothing but DP. It was actually more like 30 minutes but only recorded 10I think I might have deleted it off wegame... bummer
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Quote:i19???Yea, I caught it. Was just bringing some levity in as I was coming here anyway to post my goal of unsticky. Once a thread gets too large, folks do stop reading them and begin repeating questions that were already covered and then we get what we got with the last few posts.
More reason to let this puppy go.
So I can make a new one after I-19!
Did I miss i18???
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Fairly close to each other.
I do agree that WP has a slight edge over regen. In the process or respecing back my Katana/regen PvP build to pve cause of this thread. It probably wont be able to do things that my Kat/WP can do but it will have 200+ DPS which I will enjoy... -
I sure hope not...
Invul already sucks -
K here's my first pass at it.
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Don't give up on the build yet. There are a few things that could be done, like lowering the s/l defense from 48 to 45. Dropping a couple of powers to pick up CP and PP to get endurance under control. Let's see if I could mess around with the build and come up with something a bit better.
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Quote:Didn't really pay attention too much on endurance. Was actually hoping you could run tactics and thats why I had an end red on it. The accuracy on the build is just a bit low for my taste.SJ isn't a concern really, I have Ninja Run available and I'm using it on my main.
I am, however, concerned about the endurance consumption (on an /Elec?! :P), because ~1.7/sec consumption seems high compared to ~3.8 recovery, even with Energize and Conserve Power available.
Your build is also very nice, but I do kind of dislike pure set mules that don't lead to more interesting power choices; Boxing and Kick are forgiven, Tactics on the other hand would probably bug the heck out of me as I'd never use it unless Recovery/End buffs were reliably available.
I think Power Surge would be a better mule as I just might use it once a week. If it won't work, I guess I'll just have to settle with slightly-lower-than-soft-cap degree of Defense. :P
The second build is better but again the accuracy bugs me a bit. -
Shred was actually the first one I saw that had SL slotted that way
Quote:Drop the Hecatomb for a Mako acc/end/rech triple. Or even a straight Acc. Although.... Even though you didn't slot well for it, Invincibility adds a good chunk of acc, I think you'd be fine. -
Nice looking build...
How attached are you to SJ?
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I actually don't think it can. Not so much on survivability side but rather on the damage department. You really want those attacks slotted up then try to figure out a good ST attack chain.
Hasten or aid self would help but it could be done without it. My BS/Inv does OK without them. -
Here's my shot at it...
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Runs the Smite-SL-Smite-MG gapless when hasten is up
SL is slotted up like those crazy DM/SD builds out there
Accuracy on Smite suck with out max SD
Could maybe find a slot for a kismet
Could maybe use more recharge to shorten up hasten downtime
And it sucks working on weekends!!! should be against the law -
ahhhh
thank you... thank you