Willpower/Fire Tanker Needs Help
Can you put your current build into Mids and export it here so we can see what you've got so far? Let us know what changes you're thinking about going with concerning power choices, etc. Give us a place to start.
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.
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Alright, now it isn't well thought up, made him more for defense and I didn't buy many good enhancements because I am no good at them. Here is my current build and enhancements, I have a respec that I will probably use because of my slotting. The Pool powers I am willing to change but the ones i have are pretty standard. This is going to be a farm character so I don't really need a travel power. Please take a look, revise, and reply with ideas and such.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- ResDam(A), ResDam(3), ResDam(3), Heal(5), Heal(5), Heal(7)
Level 1: Scorch -- Dmg(A)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- ResDam(A), ResDam(7), ResDam(9), EndRdx(9)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Heal(A), Heal(11), Heal(11), Heal(13), Heal(13), Heal(15)
Level 6: Indomitable Will -- DefBuff(A)
Level 8: Rise to the Challenge -- Heal(A), Heal(15), Heal(17), Heal(17), Heal(19), EndRdx(19)
Level 10: Combustion -- Dmg(A), EndRdx(21)
Level 12: Quick Recovery -- EndMod(A), EndMod(21), EndMod(23), EndMod(23), EndMod(25), EndMod(25)
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- ResDam(A), ResDam(37), ResDam(39), ResDam(39), ResDam(39), EndRdx(40)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(36), Heal(36), Heal(36), Heal(37), Heal(37)
Level 22: Weave -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(33), DefBuff(33), DefBuff(34), DefBuff(34), EndRdx(34)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(27), EndMod(27), EndMod(31), EndMod(31), EndMod(33)
Level 26: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(45), DefBuff(45), DefBuff(46), DefBuff(46), EndRdx(48)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(29), RechRdx(29), RechRdx(31), RechRdx(46), RechRdx(50)
Level 30: Heightened Senses -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(40), DefBuff(40), DefBuff(42), DefBuff(42), EndRdx(42)
Level 32: Breath of Fire -- Range(A)
Level 35: Build Up -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(43), RechRdx(43)
Level 38: Fire Sword Circle -- Armgdn-Dmg:50(A), Armgdn-Dam%:50(43), EndRdx(45)
Level 41: Greater Fire Sword -- EndRdx(A)
Level 44: Char -- EndRdx(A)
Level 47: Melt Armor -- DefDeb(A), DefDeb(48), DefDeb(48)
Level 49: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg:50(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg:50(50), RechRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 8% (0.13 End/sec) Recovery
Set Bonuses:
Armageddon
(Fire Sword Circle)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
(Fire Ball)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
Welcome to the world of Enhancement Diversification, from now on known as ED.
What that basically means is that once you start slotting in 3+ enhancements of any one kind you're going to get diminishing returns on that enhancement. So it's pretty pointless to slot more then 3 of anyone type, and some folks don't think it's even worth using a third. See the above link for a fuller explanation.
So, don't bother with more then 3 heals in Fast Healing, Rise to the Challenge, and Health. No more then 3 End Mods in Quick Recovery and stamina. No more then three defense/resist Mods in anything... Etc, etc, ad-nauseum.
So, move a bunch of those slots around into your attacks, etc. as helping to defeat the enemy will also help in your survival. You'll want acc, end redux, damage and recharge, and not necessarily in that order.
That's at least something to start thinking about for now.
Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....
Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.
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A quick fix on that for something operable and able to farm for better IOs etc would be something like this:
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He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Since my last post based on your power choices I knocked this up from scratch if it helps in anyway for ideas:
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He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Wow thanks, was just about to ask about enhancements, clicked back and your new post was there! I do see there is a MASSIVE difference in the stats, I am analyzing the build, experimenting with some other ideas and such but yours seems very rock solid. I am going to give it some time though to see if any other ideas pop up in here since i only have one respec and don't feel like doing a respec trial quite yet. Thanks alot!
Btw, i pick Melt armor because I figured it would be better than another single target attack and the defense debuff could make it a little easier on me. Best of a bad situation in my opinion.
Your welcome, it was done in 20 mins, so I don't expect it to be gold, a thorough check is better. Without my looking into it in detail for softcap to S/L you might have to change a couple of powers. Haste itself is something that could be unmissable depending on how you like your rechg times on the aoes.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
The set enhancements you put on powers like Fire Sword Circle for example, you have all six Obliteration. Was it for the set? It does have a nice bonus for six but Armaggedon has a larger buff. For example Obliteration has 42.4% damage, Armaggedon has 53% damage buff. Was it for the defense buff? I am still getting up to date with all these new enhancement classes they added to the game...
The 6th slot gives 1.88% s/l def bonus I think. I never afai can remember do suggestions with purples as theyre expensive. I don't know who has 2 billion and who hasn't. Most people alt a lot and probably don't.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I was looking and twinking with the build, took out hasten to put in Manuevers for the extra defense, took slots off of Indomitable Will (Or w/e it called) since it only defends against Psionics and put them in others for set bonuses and such. If you have time, or if anyone else viewing this page has time, take a look at this build and see what is good/bad about it, revise it, and post a better one.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (3) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (3) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (15) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (43) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
- (50) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (9) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
- (13) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
- (13) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
- (27) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 35
- (50) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- (27) Reactive Armor - Endurance: Level 40
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (23) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- (43) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
- (A) Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (33) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 20
- (40) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception: Level 20
- (40) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff: Level 20
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (40) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
- (42) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 6% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 6% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 6% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 6% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 6% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 6% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 6% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 6% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 22.4% Defense(Smashing)
- 22.4% Defense(Lethal)
- 4.25% Defense(Fire)
- 4.25% Defense(Cold)
- 8% Defense(Energy)
- 8% Defense(Negative)
- 4.88% Defense(Psionic)
- 18.3% Defense(Melee)
- 5.5% Defense(Ranged)
- 5.5% Defense(AoE)
- 45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 22.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 309.2 HP (16.5%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Immobilize) 10.5%
- MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
- 20% Perception
- 9% (0.15 End/sec) Recovery
- 84% (6.57 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 3.15% Resistance(Fire)
- 3.15% Resistance(Cold)
- 5% RunSpeed
Set Bonuses:
Numina's Convalescence
(High Pain Tolerance)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
(High Pain Tolerance)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.88% Defense(Psionic)
(Scorch)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Mind Over Body)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
- 1.25% Defense(AoE), 0.63% Defense(Fire), 0.63% Defense(Cold)
(Mind Over Body)
- 3% Defense(All)
(Fast Healing)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
(Rise to the Challenge)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
(Combustion)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
(Quick Recovery)
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
(Kick)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Tough)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
- 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
- 1.25% Defense(AoE), 0.63% Defense(Fire), 0.63% Defense(Cold)
(Heightened Senses)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
(Weave)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
(Breath of Fire)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
(Health)
- 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints
(Fire Sword Circle)
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
(Stamina)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
(Build Up)
- 1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
- 6% (0.47 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% Perception
(Maneuvers)
- 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 21.1 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
(Greater Fire Sword)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
- 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
- 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
(Char)
- 2.5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
(Fire Ball)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
- 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
You've given up 5% psionic defense for a bit of regen, a bit of end recovery and tohit buff from what I can see. If I can't get a great amount of defense to Psionics alone I would look at how much defenders/controllers can stack to my build and see how far to softcap my build would be combined with their abilities.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Here's another sample build to look at
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I just came back to City of Heroes from a break and I started to pay more attention to my Willpower/Fire tanker. He REALLY needed work, I have been doing the best i can but he needs IOs. Im planning on having this character farm mishes primarily and I am not great with slotting and getting IOs by myself. I am going to respec him but I only have one respec so please post your builds and ideas and such below. I do have Mid's Hero Designer so do put up custom builds from that here.