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And don't forget that this change was followed shortly (a few months later, IIRC) by Enhancement Diversification. Talk about insult on injury! At least that's how the players perceived it--boy, were the forums hot for a while there.

When I first looked at the build I thought you were giving him a PvP build even though he didn't ask for one, since your slotting choices make absolutely no sense for PvE.

In what CoH universe does a WP tanker need an additional 24 points of KB protection on top of the 10 pts (and 1000% resistance) provided in Indom Will for *PvE*? Likewise for those status protection IOs; they are completely unnecessary for 99% of PvE situations.

You say that part of a tank's job is to take damage, but HPT's primary function is add additional HP so they CAN take more damage, and it's completey unslotted for heal, which would enhance the amount of additional HP available. Even worse, you've allotted 6 resistance slots to HPT, and it isn't even fully slotted for resistance. Same thing for MoB; you've wasted so many slots on superfluous KB and status protection that you've neglected to slot it for its main function.

And in terms of "dishing out" damage, this build has no ST attack chain to speak of; Jab and Boxing are very low level attacks, and you've left them essentially unslotted.

I have no idea where or how you got the idea that this is the way to build a PvE tank, but I can guarantee you that the OP's last build will be far more durable and able to dish out damage than a tank with the build you posted.

Hmm, maybe that's a good build for PvP, but the OP didn't say a word about wanting a PvP build. But for PvE, it's downright awful.

Hmm, yeah, needs a lot of work.

First of all, Unyielding and Invinc are taken way too late. UY should be taken by level 10 and Invinc at 18. RPD and the Fighting pool can be easily be delayed until the 20s or 30s to give room. Similarly, Stamina at 20, no question! If you feel you have to take both SS and SJ, fine, but do NOT delay the Fitness pool, UY or Invinc to do so. I would certainly not recommend taking more than 2 powers from the travel pools before level 20--you've got 4!

Tough Hide is a "must take" power, IMO, and I also usually take ResEn on my Invul tankers. I'd drop either SS or SJ to take TH at the very least. TH has the same defense value as Weave--in a passive, no less--so taking it means you'll have to slot for fewer bonuses.

Weave does not need to be taken before ET and TF! Take them when they're available and move Weave to 41.

Slotting: RPD and CJ both have a relatively low base value, so they're a good choice to pull slots from if you need them.

Instead of a mish-mash of Acc, Recharge, and End Red commons to finish out the slotting of those KC sets, using a triple from another set like CI or Mako's to more fully slot those attacks. Done that way, you can get away with 5 slots instead of 6 if you need to.

In case you hadn't heard, the BotZ bonuses are going to be nerfed, and IMO will no longer be worth slotting for the typed defense bonus. In addition, Invul does NOT need any additional KB protection, so that BotZ -KB is doubly a waste of money.

Oblit isn't a great choice for typed defense; the quad is very expensive, the S/L bonus for 6 slots is relatively small, and the set has very little end reduction. I think you'd be better off slotting 3-4 Eradication for the E/NE bonus and then finish out slotting with 2 Scirocco's Dervish, Dam/End and Acc/Dam/End. If you need to, you can make up for the S/L def lost from the Oblits by either slotting Build Up with 2 Rectifed Recticle or Taunt with Mocking Beratement. (5 slots of MB will also give you a substantial F/C def bonus.)

Health needs to be slotted with heal enhancement as well as the uniques; I'd pull a slot from SJ or CJ and add a level 50 Heal common.

Weave is a relatively high-end toggle and needs end reduction. Add a slot for a End Reduction common. You might also want to consider 4-slotting a set like GotA or LotG in Weave, Invinc, and Tough Hide, just go by what you can afford and what bonuses you like.

As I mentioned earlier, you'd be better off using the last two slots in ET and TF with triples or quads from another set. As is, they're underslotted for accuracy and damage.

Switch out that last Perfect Zinger in Taunt for a 5th slot of Mocking Beratement and you're good to go! (Plus the other stuff about using IOs and making sure HPT is slotted with level 50s where possible.)

Good luck!

Your link doesn't work, Could you please either fix that or include a data chunk?

But I can tell you right away that your Death Shroud slotting is completely inadequate. I'd recommend at least 50-60% end reduction, and currently you have none.

EDIT: just saw your note at the end of your post. It's hard to tell without seeing your build in Mid's, but from what I can see (no end red in DS, two attacks slotted with Oblit, Dark Regen underslotted for end red) I think you're being way too optimistic about the ability of the ToE+End and DC to make this an endurance friendly build.

Your best bet is to repost this question in the Tech forum; and have your computer specs on hand, they will certainly ask for them.

By the way, is this a crash to the desktop, or does the entire computer shut down? Shut downs are often associated with overheating, a common problem with laptops.

Much, much better, almost there!

Presumably you'll replace the SOs you have slotted in Mid's with common IOs, and slot HPT with level 50s, or something close to it, rather than level 30s. (Except for the Steadfast +Def, of course.)

A couple of things:

Fast Healing is close to the ED cutoff without the Heal common, and you'd get better regen numbers (648% vs 619%) if you moved the Heal common to Health.

RttC is still way overslotted with end reduction. You need to replace the Numina's triple with a Numina's Heal to more fully slot it for heal. (On top of the previous suggestion, this will increase your regen rate to 671%.)

Also, I think 5 slotting Taunt with Mocking Beratement is a better use of slots than 3 slotting SS. So I'd take 2 slots from SS and one from Hasten to do that, but that's more personal preference.

Other than that, looks good!

The best way to do that is to go to the tailor, select Cloak of Darkness in the power customization section, and set it to "No Fade or Pulse".

Much better, but it could use a liitle more tweaking.

Manuevers? Ugh, no, the tank values for it are terrible. Combat Jumping actually gives more defense at a fraction of the cost. I'd swap out Manuevers for CJ and take CJ much earlier. The slotting you have for Manuevers is okay for CJ, but swap the LotG Def/End/Rchg for a LotG Def IO.

Heal is still very underslotted in HPT; you need to look at the enhancement values as well as the number of slots. Personally, I'd put the Regen Tissue unique in either Health or FH, then slot HPT with heal commons or a Heal set that goes to 50. And no triples! They do very little for you in a passive. Slotting the Steadfast +Def there is fine, but WP does not need additional KB protection and the small bonus for slotting the SP Res/End is not worth the loss of resist enhancement. Slot it with the Steadfast +Def and two level 50 common IOs instead.

Mind Over Body is overslotted, anything more than 4 slots is just giving you additional end reduction, which you don't need. Take out the End and End/Rchg IOs and move the slots to Health.

Indomitable Will is overslotted for end reduction; swap out the LotG End/Rchg for the LotG Defense.

If you're going to slot an attack with a high-recharge purple set like Hecatomb, it should be your biggest, slowest recharging attack, in other words, KoB. So switch the slotting of Haymaker with KoB.

Mind Over Body is still underslotted for Heal and way overslotted for end reduction. Replace the Heal/End/Rchg with and NC Heal.

The BotZ -KB is not needed for WP and its bonus values are about to be nerfed. (See separate thread for more details.) If you think the E/NE bonus is still worth it, fine, but drop the -KB.

I'm not a fan of self-rez powers so I'm no expert on slotting Resurgance, but I'd think slotting some Recharge would be more useful than all end mods. Though personally, given that RttC is a relatively weak Taunt aura, I think Taunt would be a more useful choice than Resurgance. 5-slotted with Mocking Beratement it will give you nice S/L and F/C def bonuses.

You might also want to consider switching the Devastion set in Hurl for Thunder Strike. 6 slots of TS gives you a 3.75% E/NE bonus.

EDIT: Oh, and take that End/Rechg out of FH and replace it with the Heal IO. Passives don't need either endurance reduction or recharge, and it's underslotted for heal.

Not bad at all for a first try, but I'd recommend a few changes.

No Death Shroud? No Whirling Mace? I wouldn't build a Dark/Mace without either one of them. However, if you can make room for just one, I'd pick Death Shroud. It's a good taunt aura, and does a considerable amount of (non-resisted) damage over time. It also works extremely well in combination with Op Gloom. I'm not a fan of Soul Transfer, so I'd drop that to get DS sometime shortly after Stamina, and make sure it's well-slotted for end reduction.

EDIT: Darn it, posted before I was finished.

I think Gift of the Ancients bonuses are more useful than Red Fortune's, so I'd use them in CoD too, which will free up a slot to use elsewhere.

Also, Multi Strike is an okay set for positional defense, but it's typed defense bonuses are pathetic. I'd slot Shatter and CC with 3-4 Eradication for the E/NE bonus (Dark has a weakness to Energy damage) and finish out the slotting with two Scirocco's Dervish, Dam/End and Acc/Dam/End.

You don't need the additional end red you've slotted in your resistance and defense toggles; it's better for them to be fully slotted for resistance or defense. So swap out the End/Rchg or End IOs for whichever def/resist IO you skipped.

Well, your power order and slotting needs a lot of work.

First, power order. Quick Recovery is actually better than Stamina and available much earlier. Between QR and FH, you can delay the Fitness pool until much later in your build.

Knock Out Blow and Foot Stomp are the best attacks in SS and should be taken as soon as they're available. Rage should also be taken ASAP. Personally, I think taking 4 powers from the travel pools is too much, but if you really want to take them, fine, just don't delay important primary/secondary powers to do so.

Hand Clap is not a great choice for a set like WP that depends on having foes in melee range. If you decide to take it, be sure to use it judiciously.

In a build with both QR and Stamina, Conserve Power really is overkill. You should consider taking a ranged or AoE power from one of the other ancilliary pools instead.

Okay, slotting. I can't tell what if you have a particular goal in mind for set bonuses, but your slotting is all over the place. It would be to your advantage to decide what sort of bonuses you want and work toward them; this build is very...random.

Some basics:

High Pain Tolerance, Mind Over Body, Jab and Haymaker are severely underslotted. You should be aiming for around 56% resist enhancement in MoB and 95% heal enhancement in HPT, something close to 56% resist enhancement in HPT would be nice too, though not as essential as the heal. The Psi resist slot in MoB is doing you very little good, you'd be better off slotting it normally with a resist set like Reactive Armor. There is no earthly reason to slot a single Heal/End/Rchg in a passive like HPT; unless you're going for a specific bonus, commons IOs are all you need.

I like at least 4 slots in all my attacks, but even if you decide to keep Jab underslotted, Haymaker needs at least five slots, IMO. If you're not going for defense bonuses, 5 Crushing Impact would be a good choice.

Fast Healing is overslotted; I'd take out at least one, if not two, slots. Again, all it needs is 95% Heal enhancement; the bonus on the 5th Numina is useless.

Heightened Senses gives E/NE/F/C defense, but you've given it less slots than IW, which only gives Psi defense. Pull a slot from IW and put a 4th LotG in HS to get it up close to 56% defense enhancement.

The base value of CJ very small, so all those LotG are doing very little for you. I'd give it two slots, max, the +Recharge and the Defense IO, for instance.

The ToHit Debuff in RttC is far less important than the regen boost it gives; so replace two of those Dark Watcher's with Numina's or some other Heal set. The Taunt aura in RttC is pretty weak, so you might also want to add a Taunt IO.

QR is way overslotted. Make sure it's slotted to 95% End Mod enhancement, and pull the rest of the slots. IMO, the bonuses will help you a lot less than adequately slotting the rest of your build.

Both SJ and SS are also overslotted, IMO. If you end up with enough slots to 3 slot them both, fine, but they should be a low priority compared to slotting your primary and secondary powers.

I'd also recommend getting the Steadfast +Def unique. It's inexpensive compared to a lot of the IOs you have in your build, and it'll give you a nice defense boost. It won't help much with S/L defense since you have so little, but it'll get your defense to the other damage types up near 30%, which is useful.

Well, that stinks but I understand why they're doing it; it really was too good to be true.

In any case, it's definitely more of a blow for positional defense sets than typed, I think I'm going to have to rework the builds of my Shield tank and SR scrapper.

Sailboat, I couldn't tell for certain, but are the 6 slots in Blazing Aura and Fire Sword Circle 6 Eradication, or 3 or 4 Erad with some other set IOs? You mention 3 Erad + frankenslotting for Combustion, but don't specifiy for the other two.

If it is a full set of Eradication in those two powers, that's a really bad idea, especially for Blazing Aura since an Erad set only has about 15% end reduction in 6 slots. I strongly recommend that you just use 3 or 4 Erad, then drop in another 2 or 3 slots from another set, heavy on the end reduction. I like using Scirocco's Dam/End & Acc/Dam/End for that purpose since 2 slots gives a 10% regen bonus. For BA, if you use the Scirocco's you'll also want to incude the Erad Acc/Dam/End/Rchg for a little bit more end reduction.

P.S. Yes, you can get a low level Steadfast -KB (and a +Def for that matter) slot them in TP, and have them work at lower levels--three lower than the IO level, to be exact. But note that the Kismet +Acc does NOT work that way; in a toggle like CJ, you have to have the power toggled on to get the bonus.

War Mace has a 100% chance of a mag 3 stun in Clobber, which is also it's most damaging attack. Between OG and Clobber, you can stun bosses at will.

The chance to stun in the rest of the WM attacks is pretty low, though the 30% in Whirling Mace means that if you use it in a group. chances are it's going to hit on someone.

ArcWeld, the build you posted is good, but I would recommend a couple of changes. Both Tough and Weave are underslotted for end reduction and they're fairly expensive toggles. You're also over the cap on 10% regen bonuses, so I'd pull two slots from Grant Cover (which is only helping your allies anyway) and put one slot each in Tough and Weave.

Adding a LotG Def/End/Rchg, and 3-slotting Tough with a set like Titanium Coating or Aegis, (Res/End, Res, Res/End/Rchg) will give you nearly 48% end reduction in each power.

Another Aegis set would put you well over the soft-cap for AoE, so you could replace one of the Scirocco's sets with 3 or 4 Eradication, which would boost E/NE def over the soft-cap.

If you check the "Sets and Bonuses" tab on your current build, you'll see that you're over the "rule of 5" for 10% regen bonuses and 1.13% HP bonuses, so some of those sets aren't doing much for you.

I've tweaked your build to get rid of the unused bonuses, and also shifted a slot to Tough Hide. (TH has a higher defense value than CJ, so it makes more sense to underslot CJ.) I removed the Efficacy Adaptors from Unstop since you weren't getting the bonus, and end mods in Unstop are unnecessary anyway. I put Imperv Armors in Unstop instead, for the recovery bonus, but common recharge IOs would be a good choice too. I also swapped the Aegis Psi/Status resist out for a Aegis with some defense enhancement; a 3% Psi resist bonus is completely useless without any other Psi resist to stack with.

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Miss Painfull Mk III: Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(5), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RctvArm-ResDam(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(9), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(13), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(17)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-Travel(17), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(27)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(21), Mrcl-Heal(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(25), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 14: Shadow Maul -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Erad-Dmg(29), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(34), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(34), Mrcl-Heal(34), RgnTis-Regen+(43), Mrcl-Rcvry+(45)
Level 20: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod(36), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(33), Oblit-Dmg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 30: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Dam%(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), Ksmt-ToHit+(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 38: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Unstoppable -- ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(48)
Level 49: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 3% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 3% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 3% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 3% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 3% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 3% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 3% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 3% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 14.4% Defense(Smashing)
• 14.4% Defense(Lethal)
• 9.69% Defense(Energy)
• 9.69% Defense(Negative)
• 10% Defense(Melee)
• 7.19% Defense(Ranged)
• 1.8% Max End
• 40% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 4% Enhancement(Heal)
• 27% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 185.5 HP (12.4%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
• MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
• 9% (0.15 End/sec) Recovery
• 82% (5.13 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
• 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
• 15% RunSpeed