Your link doesn't work, Could you please either fix that or include a data chunk?
But I can tell you right away that your Death Shroud slotting is completely inadequate. I'd recommend at least 50-60% end reduction, and currently you have none.
EDIT: just saw your note at the end of your post. It's hard to tell without seeing your build in Mid's, but from what I can see (no end red in DS, two attacks slotted with Oblit, Dark Regen underslotted for end red) I think you're being way too optimistic about the ability of the ToE+End and DC to make this an endurance friendly build.
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And holy crap yeah, somehow I forgot about the ridiculous cost of Death Shroud (I'm not actually running this yet, I'm still on mostly SOs). I could probably free up other slots somewhere else, although from the way you're talking it sounds like I should abandon the idea of defense entirely since it's going to bork my build (which from the sound of it is already borked, as most of my slotting is unchanged between the two builds).
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"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Meh. Who needs Defense when you have Touch of Fear, Darkest Night, and their massive stacking to hit penalties?
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I don't have either of those things.
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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
Meh. Who needs Defense when you have Touch of Fear, Darkest Night, and their massive stacking to hit penalties?
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"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Hmm. Fair enough. My bad. Having read the build closer... I'm of the opinion you've *seriously* understlotted your attacks. Especially Death Shroud which is basically useless as you've got it slotted now, except for as a massive endurance drain.
How much defense did this slotting give you?
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[/code]And holy crap yeah, somehow I forgot about the ridiculous cost of Death Shroud (I'm not actually running this yet, I'm still on mostly SOs). I could probably free up other slots somewhere else, although from the way you're talking it sounds like I should abandon the idea of defense entirely since it's going to bork my build (which from the sound of it is already borked, as most of my slotting is unchanged between the two builds).
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I've got a Dark scrapper and a Dark tanker, and IMO you'd be better off trying for typed defense rather than positional. You can concentrate on the damage types that would be most useful to you (S/L/E) and it will take far fewer slots than getting the level of melee defense you have in this build.
I took my Spines/Dark scrapper and altered it to be a DM/DA, and this is what I came up with. It has 31% S/L defense, 34% E/NE defense, and the attacks are adequately slotted. You'll probably want to swap out Air Sup/Fly and Recall Friend for your own picks, but I didn't want to bother changing them. CJ will more than make up for the loss of the SH set in Air Sup. But note that I took Cloak of Darkness; it has as much defense as Weave, so you definitely don't want to skip it on a defense build.
EDIT: Sorry 'bout that, my export type got reset for some reason.
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Silverslash: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(5)
Level 2: Death Shroud -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(9), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(15), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(17)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(31)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(A), S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(13), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(23), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(11), ResDam-I(11), ResDam-I(13)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Theft-+End%(37), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(37), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(19), Heal-I(40)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), P'Shift-End%(46)
Level 22: Recall Friend -- Jnt-Rng(A), Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(23)
Level 24: Murky Cloud -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam(27)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(40), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Touch of Fear -- N'mare-Acc/Rchg(A), N'mare-Acc/Fear/Rchg(29), N'mare-Acc/EndRdx(39)
Level 30: Cloak of Darkness -- Krma-ResKB(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(39), DefBuff-I(42), DefBuff-I(42)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- S'ngH'mkr-Acc/Dmg(A), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx(33), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/Rchg(33), S'ngH'mkr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(36)
Level 38: Dark Consumption -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(42), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(45), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 41: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Cloak of Fear -- Abys-Acc/EndRdx(A), N'mare-Acc/EndRdx(45), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), RctvArm-ResDam(48)
Level 49: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg(50), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), GftotA-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 0: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 19.9% Defense(Smashing)
- 19.9% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 22.4% Defense(Energy)
- 22.4% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 11.4% Defense(Melee)
- 12.7% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 9% Max End
- 1.65% Enhancement(Terrorized)
- 85.3 HP (6.37%) HitPoints
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
- MezResist(Sleep) 6.6%
- 9.5% (0.16 End/sec) Recovery
- 16% (0.89 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 2.5% Resistance(Fire)
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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
Hmm. Fair enough. My bad. Having read the build closer... I'm of the opinion you've *seriously* understlotted your attacks. Especially Death Shroud which is basically useless as you've got it slotted now, except for as a massive endurance drain.
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10.7% F/C/E/B/P, Ranged, AoE
30% melee
I guess I underestimated the utility of Death Shroud as anything other than easy Fury generation (and like I said, totally forgot about how bad an end drain it is).
(Amusing sidenote: In going to retrieve this information, I thought it would be easiest to just click the DataLink from my original post, only to discover that it's unclickable! It was an actual link in some draft of that post, I know because I clicked it in the post preview, I dunno what happened -- no wonder Finduilas couldn't open it!)
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The other thing I notice is that this build actually does worse for recovery than the build in my original post -- 0.93/sec with all non-travel toggles on (it does better for defense, admittedly, but hardly worth it). With Dark Consumption underslotted for recharge (and taken absurdly late, but I assume that's an artifact of tossing a theoretical build together) you'd be chomping blue pills like there's no tomorrow.
I don't wish to be ungrateful though, there's definitely some ideas in here I can see trying to work into my planned build.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Quite honestly, as a DM/DA brute, building for defense isn't really going to help you much since the set is not geared for it at all. On top of that, any DM/DA build will be pretty end heavy as well, so your best bet is to try and get the endurance drain down to a manageable level while increasing your fury bar.
I have a DM/DA scrapper who is a beast and love playing him, BUT I've also discovered that you really can't build a brute the same way and expect him to survive. Thus, you have to put more emphisis on Death Shroud, Dark Regeneration and Dark Consumption to keep yourself vertical in large mobs or dicy situations.
With that said, here is the build I'm currently using and it's working out fairly well. I've just hit lvl 29 and don't even have DS, yet I was able to demolish every mob (6-min/2-Lt) during a solo AE farm I ran this morning with little trouble. I would imagine that once DS is fully slotted, this brute will be one serious monster:
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), ImpArm-ResDam(13), S'fstPrt-ResKB(17)
Level 2: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(17), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ImpArm-ResDam(25), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(27)
Level 12: Air Superiority -- Acc-I(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Theft-+End%(23), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(46), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 24: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ImpArm-ResDam(37), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Cloak of Darkness -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), GftotA-Def(34), GftotA-Def/Rchg(36)
Level 30: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Erad-%Dam(33)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), GftotA-Def(48), GftotA-Def/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Soul Transfer -- Heal-I(A), EndMod-I(50), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
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Of course, ymmv due to playstyle, but at least this will give you another option to consider. 
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Ok I have a DM/DA Brute and love him to death and I have to say first DA does offer decent resistance though I have found that in my current build that the trick to any dark set is too balance your healing powers with your|
Originally Posted by MrVacant
Quite honestly, as a DM/DA brute, building for defense isn't really going to help you much since the set is not geared for it at all. On top of that, any DM/DA build will be pretty end heavy as well, so your best bet is to try and get the endurance drain down to a manageable level while increasing your fury bar.
I have a DM/DA scrapper who is a beast and love playing him, BUT I've also discovered that you really can't build a brute the same way and expect him to survive. Thus, you have to put more emphisis on Death Shroud, Dark Regeneration and Dark Consumption to keep yourself vertical in large mobs or dicy situations. With that said, here is the build I'm currently using and it's working out fairly well. I've just hit lvl 29 and don't even have DS, yet I was able to demolish every mob (6-min/2-Lt) during a solo AE farm I ran this morning with little trouble. I would imagine that once DS is fully slotted, this brute will be one serious monster: Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Fitness Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Shadow Punch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), ImpArm-ResDam(13), S'fstPrt-ResKB(17) Level 2: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29) Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 8: Siphon Life -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(17), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ImpArm-ResDam(25), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(27) Level 12: Air Superiority -- Acc-I(A) Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Theft-+End%(23), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A) Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21), EndMod-I(21) Level 22: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(46), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46) Level 24: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ImpArm-ResDam(37), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(40) Level 26: Soul Drain -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(33), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36) Level 28: Cloak of Darkness -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), GftotA-Def(34), GftotA-Def/Rchg(36) Level 30: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Erad-%Dam(33) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 35: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 38: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam(39), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39) Level 41: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43) Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 47: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), GftotA-Def(48), GftotA-Def/Rchg(48) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- Heal-I(A), EndMod-I(50), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50) ------------ Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury ------------ Of course, ymmv due to playstyle, but at least this will give you another option to consider. |
resistance. I decided to focus alot of my sets with regneration/HP in mind and has worked out very well. There is a balance in which works very very
well as your resistance will mitigate some of the damage, your increased
regeneration will help to take more damage, and above all else with your
heals siphon life and dark regeneration you will be very highly survivable. As for the end issues with endurance reductions and stamina its pretty
much not abn issue too much either. I personally think the balance listed above is the true key to DA.
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Mind posting your build? Because I also took into consideration the regen/HP factor, but was really more focused on endurance usage, since it's easy to run dry fairly quickly when looking to keep a full bar of fury.|
Originally Posted by TADA
Ok I have a DM/DA Brute and love him to death and I have to say first DA does offer decent resistance though I have found that in my current build that the trick to any dark set is too balance your healing powers with yourresistance. I decided to focus alot of my sets with regneration/HP in mind and has worked out very well. There is a balance in which works very very well as your resistance will mitigate some of the damage, your increased regeneration will help to take more damage, and above all else with your heals siphon life and dark regeneration you will be very highly survivable. As for the end issues with endurance reductions and stamina its pretty much not abn issue too much either. I personally think the balance listed above is the true key to DA.
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The build I posted is the best I could do for covering all of the basics (some better than others, obviously). Anyway, here are the numbers from MIDs:
- Regeneration: 177%
- Max HP: 105.6%
- End Rec: 169% (3.34/s)
- End Use: 1.43/s
- Max End: 118%
- Haste: +20%
- ToHit: +0
- Accuracy: +53%
- Damage: +1%
- End Rdx: +0
I would have loved to get more HP, ToHit and Damage, but purples just aren't within my budget.
Okay, I've been gone for a bit but here's the revised build I ended up with:
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Cthulhu Carl: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(3), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(3), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(15), S'fstPrt-ResKB(34)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(36), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(5), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(5), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(9), Nictus-Acc/Heal(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(11), ImpArm-ResDam(23)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-Heal(A), Theft-Heal/Rchg(17), Theft-Acc/Heal(17), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(31), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Theft-+End%(43)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(19), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(19), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(31), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(33), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(33)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(46)
Level 22: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(45)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Boxing -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(36), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(40), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(45), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(39), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam(39)
Level 41: Cloak of Fear -- Cloud-ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(42), Cloud-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 44: Gloom -- Cloud-ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(45)
Level 47: Darkest Night -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(48), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(48), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Dam%(A), Cloud-%Dam(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 0: Ninja Run
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As you can see, my attacks are slotted out a bit better, and Death Shroud is un-gimped. I feel like Oppressive Gloom might be overslotted, but that was mainly for the recharge bonus, and I'm not sure what else to do with the slots. I'm uncertain about Cloak of fear -- would I be better with -ToHit or Fear here? I'd probably go with 5x Glimpse if I switched to Fear.| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1406;724;1448;HEX;| |78DA9D945B4F134114C767BBADA5F796D20B17814269A1D085BE7979300A122534C| |1102F41635DCB4A1B9716B7AD8A2FA2BEE23DD144C5E89730881FC6078DFAA031EA| |8B89977A2E5312E39B9BF6FFDB3973E69C3967A6CD5F9EF20AB1B64F289E4953AFD| |50A07AC46DD70E4F5A572D13B592F35CC52A37F52B74CA710224A9385BC611A8636| |A55BE7F935CEE629E39C51A9C989FDD672D50A1DAE940CCBA8D4B5D68B77AE5A35B| |5E972BD62D46A3C9835F4957265C94D83F915C358F449A7A5521D26620757CA458D| |53CC571B6621AFD7EA86B51A870D8DC0F7A3683D4DBB3803C8891D3AC17B96E02F1| |2A28B8447E8A948F724BCA4856D989122F8A3809D2211277C6A798BA6433139FA32| |47AF1006AB84F425426695F00454E524AACA49EC9CC4CE491243040774D5C17EC29| |1A5A59F419D9C5075865534B575302204778CB0011E2E5E6A73710A37C78E72A628| |44F1C8D89EEF028B7182C9C726C53743F5E58E2918ED29D8028A4265067C2ACE04F| |D8C00A137484886089976C217F00F095E155AB761A0F69B8C5B84DEDB84FE3B8CBB| |8436D8455836277C8F4C1DF7190F08D9878418F845B81322D24D453F86414C1E5EE| |C22F52BCE8D8F5F21F45E208CD5085F413BE5FE3A7F50D0AE9F8C5F84C46FC26093| |9016946400F276CBCE768F52A09EBFA038B1786EE3CE43D4D9EC0CE11B689FBC8B7| |D7C17FBF92E26F92E26F92E66F82E3E071D90E50C5CA583185C23A4AF11C6AE1372| |37082AE41D928D1BCAD021A7F8AC53E3E490D208CFC06358861D7E63C38D8DBC65B| |C63BC276413B4E922543D2ACB1965F731767F0D7F0D9A4CA8BDA01E8D6F325E32B6| |0806449890112636A9B4DC078AD063DFFE71C2071E31FB8F65CEBEFD13130A59A6D| |14759404BD315244FC1CEFFF56C795B295D47DC10781E441C45398EC313280B2827| |D1760AE5344A01A5F96A7B756017EE6B37CA1E94BD2811D89F58474FA707C483E24| |5F1A1F85102284194304A17CA064AF30FBE90FD16| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Thoughts?
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.621
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Cthulhu Carl: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- B'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(A), B'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(7), B'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(13)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(3), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(3), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam(25), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(34)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(7), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(43)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam(25), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(34)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(9), Nictus-Acc/Heal(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(11), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(11), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TtmC'tng-ResDam(31), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(42)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-Heal(A), Theft-Heal/Rchg(17), Theft-Acc/Heal(17), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(31), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Theft-+End%(43)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(19), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(19), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(31), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(33), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(33)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(46)
Level 22: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Boxing -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(36), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx(40), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), RzDz-Immob%(50)
Level 38: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(39), ImpArm-ResDam(39)
Level 41: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Cloak of Fear -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(45), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg(45), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(48), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFtn-Def(48), RedFtn-EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Dam%(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 0: Ninja Run
Remarks: The original version of this build emphasized recovery in the set bonuses for obvious reasons, but I wanted to see if I could build up a decent amount of defense with set bonuses and Weave. Death Shroud suffered for the former, and Darkest Night was removed for the latter. My hope is that the Theft of Essence and Performance Shifter procs will make up for the lost recovery (0.76/s is the difference between the two builds), along with Dark Consumption of course.
Thoughts?
P.S. I also ended up moving the Steadfast off Dark Embrace and into Tough so I could get the 6x Titanium Coating bonus; I'm uncertain if only having +4 KB protection from Karma will cause any knockback/down issues for when I exemp below 33, can anyone confirm/deny this? I assume the only things that might cause issues are AVs and GMs, but I've never really been clear on critter KB magnitudes.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...