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Thanks for this guide - any chance you can update it to I6?

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Don't put six resistance increases into you defence powers and add the extra slots to your attacks.

A Endurance Cost Reduction Single Origin Enhancement in each attack makes a HUGE difference in your Endurance needs.

Nice guide.

Very comprehensive.

Another Great Guide by R_M !!

I've bookmarked it and intend to share it with all my newbie friends.

How about just typing it out and sending it ONCE over request ?

That way everyone sees it and no one will want to SMASH you for spamming over broadcast.

Most of the people who hate this sort of thing are already ignoring Request anyways.

Nice post. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.

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IV. Incarnates - This is a weird concept because it hasn't been decided yet wether or not it'll be an Epic Archetype. It might be a bit confusing, but let me just show examples. Statesman is a Tanker Incarnate, and Lord Recluse is a Mastermind Incarnate. What does that show you? Well, that they're hybrids. But according to the devs, they're not sure what to do with it yet. There are official news about it all throughout CoX, but I can't list em all.


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How about listing a few expamples ?
Maybe a top 3,5, or 10 ?

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And don't forget, there has been no official word yet about wether or not which ones will only be for villains, for heroes or for both.

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My best guess would be Blood of the Black Stream and Corolax for COV, Avians for COH, and Incarnates for BOTH.

Giving COV BOTBS and Corolax fits not only for thematic reasons but it gives them two Epic ATs to match p to COH's two Epic AT's.

Giving COH the Avians appeases teh hordes that refuse to partake in the joy of COV a new toy to play with and has basically been on the COH drawing boards sonce almost day 1.

Incarnates simply HAVE to belong to both games, and I suspect will become the 50+ content, if we ever get any.

Personally, I think incarnates should basically receive 10th and 11th tier powers from their primary and secondary sets to choose from.

Someone slotted with Hammi's is more likely to till be 6 slotted for damage.

It's a 5% diff, but hey that's a 5% diff. Stalkers don't have squat for HP so 5% makes it hurt so much more.

That and every lvl50 Blaster I meet in Sirens in ICE/NRG and no stalker has great resistance/defence to Cold Damage.

Great Site Tony

keep up the good work

When your villain has Ice, Fire, Sonic, and FFs on you and your team is chewing through missions because nothing seems to be able to hurt you.

Hey Zombie,

I'll toss you some positive feedback!!

I like the guide.

I appreciated teh v. beta in the title.

To disagree with the criticism of my peers, alot of the guides in this forum are really just the posters opinion with some collected data thrown in.

The whole pro/con of AOE's debate is a factor for MM's.

It's the OP's opinion that the Shields should have come before the AOEs. You are free to disagree with him of course, but please don't tear the guide to shreds over a single difference of opinion.

Every guide that I've read that starts with R_M'S is pure gold.

You should be writing for PRIMA, or at the very least they should read your guides before they write that dribble that they try to pass off as a guide.

Keep up the great work.

REALLY, Please do.

j00 r 411 H4xx00R5!!!

It's people like you that make this game gone to the Americas

Okay, wait I thought of another one.

Possibly not my favorite, but extremely satisfying.

The first day the Bloody Bay is open to both heroes and villains. The water outside the villain base is swamped with level 50 Hammi'd out heroes pounding the snot out of the villains.

Eventually the villains are able to retake the waters and I'm swimming along the waters edge, oblivious to the fact that it give my location away. A trash talking level 50 hammi'd MA/SR (name withheld to protect the guilty) comes down and I manage to barely defeat him.

I then realize that I've teamed with him many times in COH and try to strike up a friendly converstation, letting him know who exactly I am.

He then get's rude and whines, like the Spoiled PL'ed Brat he trully is, that Stalkers are too powerfull and are going to get nerfed, calling me names in the process.

Then it happens....
He.....Uses.......An.......Awaken
Directly in front of me.
He's too much of a n00b to realize that I never walked away and that Hide just kicked back in while I was trying to chat with him.

So, I Assasin Strike him.

He then goes into a TIRADE over broadcast about how much of a low life scum I apparently am because how was he suppossed to Rez if I just kept taking cheap shots.

My answer....

G0 T0 TEH H0SP1T4L J00 SQU1SHY N00B!!!!

Siren's Call, a huge bodied Blaster and a Controller are standing on a roof top finishing off some random mob.

I fly up, behind the Blaster, and let them finish off the mob. I build up and Assasin Strike only to miss the Blaster. He and the Controller just stand there. The Blaster was between me and the Controller and both of them didn't notice me !!!!

Almost dumbfounded myself, I stand there untill Hide kicks back in, pop a few reds, and drop the Blaster with AS, and pounce on the Controller before he even realizes what happened.

I just re-read this thread today.

It is just as true then as it is now.

I would even dare say, more so now, post ED.

I would like to thank the OP again for these words of wisdom and the tears of joy I weep while laughing this hard.

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So then, its official. We're getting Dark Armor and Dark Melee in I7. What does this mean?


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All the NERF EM posts will become NERF DM posts !!!

Great Guide !!

I may just break down and roll my first Dominator.

I am sorry to say I have succumbed to SMASH

I was under the impression I would never play anything other than an endless line of Stalkers. My COV main had made fall in love with the whole strategy of planning my attacks and the ease of with I could traverse the zones with Hide.

That was untill 2 nights ago...
I was playing my main and working on designing my costume for the 3rd slot when it occured to me I could make a flaming skull!!! I was enamored with the idea, but felt it was out of charecter for villain I was designing the costume for.

I exited and rolled a new charecter I didn't hink I would play beyond the tutorial. A few hours later of non-stop SMASH I realized I wasn't even stopping to level up. All that mattered was maintaning the Fury bar so I could SMASH . I was defeating random grey foes just to further the SMASH fury bar.

I SMASH need SMASH help!! SMASH Smash SMASH is SMASH clearly SMASH SMASH very addictive.

Brutes employ the exact opposite methodology of Stalkers.
There is a SMASH science, but as long as endurance and Fury are high everything within sight exists soley to SMASH

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Is it feasible/effective to use hide + stealth + hyperstealth for this problem?

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I don't believe that Stealth and HyperStealth can be activated at the same time.

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Ohh hell yeah it rocks, with a build-up + AS + ET combo, I've been known to two shot red bosses

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With BU+AS+ET I've been known to 2 shot Blasters, Defenders, Controllers, and SR Scrappers

I think part of the problem is people are only concentraing on when Stalker triumph, and not enough when they fail.

I spent a few hours in Siren's Call the other night and after a while I acutally sat down and "talked" with a pair of heroes who had been hunting me.

One of them was Blaster who remarked how I had assasinated her 5 times and she was amazed how effective stalkers could be. I laughed and told her not to be soo impressed. While it was true I had succesfully defeated her 5 times I had failed another 15-20 that she just wasn't aware of.

Stalkers can only defeat heroes who get careless or are unaware. Stalker powers are all melee based, and our Assasin strikes are easily interruptable and therefore quite situational to use.

In the Arena I can't pull off a victory against ANY competant player with a travel power, simply because they know I'm coming and are prepared for it.

Praise the gaming Gods !!!

This was a fantastic Guide.

Even the comments from other posters were enlightening.

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Word of "Ninjitsu" is wrong. Word of "Ninjitsu" does not exist in Japanese. "Ninjutsu" is right.

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A quick web search shows the spelling as virtually interchangeable, even by schools which specialize in the form. Not likely to be changed.

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Ninjitsu and Ninjutsu generally aren't the same martial art. From what I understand Ninjitsu is basically an American spin off of Ninjutsu, which often isn't even related in any way to the original art. Sometimes it may be a translation error, but it is probably used mostly as a way to catch unsuspecting people who don't notice the difference in the one letter or enough about Ninjutsu to know that isn't what they are learning.

If you consolt a translation site (try the Japanese translator Here if you don't know of any, board censors the direct link to the Japanese page so you'll have to go to it yourself) or book, you'll see Ninjitsu isn't even a japanese word, but Ninjutsu is.

Even if you look just at the parts that are different, jitsu and jutsu, there is quite a difference in their meaning. Jutsu means art or means, while jitsu means truth, reality, sincerity, fidelity, or kindness. Even if you look at it as a combination of 2 seperate Japanese words, which sounds more appropriate for a Stalker, Ninja Art or Ninja Truth/Ninja Kindness?

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Jitsu/Jutsu = No difference

Trust me. This discussion go's back 20+ years. The Japenese don't use the Arabic alphabet. Anything in English is subject to a translators interpretation.

Jutsu is more commonly used today, but Jitsu is acceptable, and understood to mean the same thing. Like Vampire and Vampyre, Demon and Daemon. Anyone who claims otherwise is nittpicking over nothing.

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I can't think of a reason why the devs would want to "avoid" having level 50's generate extra prestige. It sounds like a perfect reward for maxing out your character, to me.

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Why would you want anything other than level 50's in your SG then?

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Umm.. because that's what the players have for charecters.

A SG with alot of 50s would have a nicer base than one without, but you know really, shouldn't they ?

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OK - here's the most likely outcome...

If you own both games, you get all options - the new CoV sets will be accessible for your heroes.

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I LOVE YOU MAN

Okay, not in any innapropriate way or anything..

STOP LOOKING AT ME

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