An Update
I'm actually going to miss these arguments. Even at the most heated, it's still a load more cordial and well-intentioned than the type of discussions you'll see anywhere else.
With that aside, with just a couple weeks left to go before the forums go dark, can't we spend that time supporting each other? We all have at least one thing in common here. |
What we all need to do is discover our exact percentage of neanderthal genes and we can make fun of each other based on those values.
The average is 1-4% for everyone other than humans purely from the African content (who have zero neanderthal DNA within them).
"Anyone with over 0.78 doesn't get to hang out with us!"
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
Back on track. Lets please table any discussions that are derailing conversations. We've all had enough last words and one more bit. If its from a few pages ago, its probably not something we should be replying to. If anyone still needs to get something out of their system, Go. Hunt. Kill. Skulls.
I really don't think Hitstreak wants to log on at the crack of dawn to teach people to play nice with each other.
-Hosun "Black Pebble" Lee
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Back on track. Lets please table any discussions that are derailing conversations. We've all had enough last words and one more bit. If its from a few pages ago, its probably not something we should be replying to. If anyone still needs to get something out of their system, go. Hunt. Kill. Skulls.
I really don't think Hitstreak wants to log on at the crack of dawn to teach people to play nice with each other. |
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
Back on track. Lets please table any discussions that are derailing conversations. We've all had enough last words and one more bit. If its from a few pages ago, its probably not something we should be replying to.
I really don't think Hitstreak wants to log on at the crack of dawn to teach people to play nice with each other. |
However, there's a handful of folk that come in to every single thread on those subjects and start ever-changing goal posts of negativity.
From now on... I will only respond with this:
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
Alls we was tryin' ta do was share some news about people citing inside sources and potential longshot plans to buy the game from them meanie peoples.
However, there's a handful of folk that come in to every single thread on those subjects and start ever-changing goal posts of negativity. From now on... I will only respond with this: |
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
Let's put it this way: As a Korean I was offended enough to leave Titan...that should tell them something; even if the only message that sends NOW is to maybe moderate their boards a little more. I am done discussing the kibun; people who view it as wrong view it as wrong...those who don't ...never will understand the cultural significance no matter how many posts. Apparently it makes no significance that a Korean has stated it is a disgusting thing to do....because it's a cool idea according to the interwebs
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Though maybe that wouldn't have even worked. The closest thing I can compare to this is probably "Southern Pride." As a Northerner I had been taught that it more or less means, "We fly Confederate flags because we're still butthurt that we lost our slaves." The more time I actually spent down there though, one day it just suddenly clicked for me and made sense. I still couldn't explain it though. It just 'is'.
Maybe that's where the idea started to die down. I don't know. Did you ever post a 'resignation' of any kind stating your grievances? I did wonder what happened to you. I remember an unrelated thread to the Kibun one (which I think is the same one EK is referring to) that got heated because someone was part Korean, but I didn't remember who was involved, so I didn't realize it was you until today. I DID hope that whoever it was though, might show up in the Kibun thread to separate the facts from the myths.
Though maybe that wouldn't have even worked. The closest thing I can compare to this is probably "Southern Pride." As a Northerner I had been taught that it more or less means, "We fly Confederate flags because we're still butthurt that we lost our slaves." The more time I actually spent down there though, one day it just suddenly clicked for me and made sense. I still couldn't explain it though. It just 'is'. |
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
Generally, if you have to ask, "is this a good idea?" It's probably not a good idea.
Let's do the right thing here and eat dead horses, versus beating them.
The number of people who changed their minds due to a discussion on the Internet is zero.
-Hosun "Black Pebble" Lee
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If everyone gets along for the next 20 minutes, I promise to punch Black Pebble in the face.
Generally, if you have to ask, "is this a good idea?" It's probably not a good idea.
Let's do the right thing here and eat dead horses, versus beating them. The number of people who changed their minds due to a discussion on the Internet is zero. |
I have entertained the idea of buying up all the twinkies I can so that in the event of some sort of Mad Max scenario, I can have the upper hand.
If everyone gets along for the next 20 minutes, I promise to punch Black Pebble in the face.
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And have I not mentioned that you hit like a girl?
-Hosun "Black Pebble" Lee
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There's not enough face palm gifs on the Internet for this thread.
NCSoft stock has dropped over 25% since the third quarter results came out last week with the volume of stock being traded over 10x normal the first day.
When Aion had it's first full quarter of sales revenue 1Q 2009, it earned more than either Lineage or Lineage II while those games maintained their previous quarters revenues. Year over year 1Q sales went up 50%. YoY 1Q profit went up over 300%. At the beginning of 2009, their stock was only at 55,000 a share. Due to all the positive buzz, by the time the 1Q 2009 report came out, the stock already tripled in price to 179,000 in only five months.
Blade & Soul's first quarter numbers painted a completely different picture. In it's first full quarter, the sum of sales revenue of Blade & Soul, Aion, Lineage and Lineage II was within 1/2 of a percent of Aion, Lineage and Lineage II's sales revenue from the previous quarter. It didn't add any new sales revenue but appear to swipe/shift it from the other three. Not good for a new "home market game".
Guild Wars 2 had higher sales revenue in it's first month than the whole quarter sales of any of the above four games. GW2 isn't necessarily a "home market game". The original Guild Wars did alright when it was pushing out paid expansions but once that stopped it's sales revenues fell dramatically. So I'm betting the analysts are looking at GW2 for only a few years of good sales instead of it being a long term source of revenue.
So institutions and other investors still holding onto NCSoft stock during the decline leading up to the release of the 3Q numbers, hoping they would be great with both new games adding revenue saw that didn't happen so they dumped it after riding it down from it's high in October of 2011 of 380,500. The stock closed Friday at 156,000.
As for the game's closure date, it was likely chosen solely to give a month to decommission/reassign the servers and for the accountants to dot the i's and cross the t's on CoH and Paragon Studio numbers don't run into fiscal year 2013.
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If everyone gets along for the next 20 minutes, I promise to punch Black Pebble in the face.
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(P.S. TR, that's from a movie)
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
"I have something to say! It's better to burn out then to fade away!"
No my point was as I stated: Ignorance is not a valid excuse.
If you are not aware of a culture of a country...then maybe you shouldn't be trying to use their culture against them. Relying on the internet for an in depth view of any culture is a bit ignorant.
My point was: If Titan does not STOP something that is inflammatory on THEIR boards; which they have the tools to do, then they are responsible for the image created by those actions. There's a reason boards are moderated...because what is or is not allowed there is a reflection of ...that community.
Let's put it this way: As a Korean I was offended enough to leave Titan...that should tell them something; even if the only message that sends NOW is to maybe moderate their boards a little more. I am done discussing the kibun; people who view it as wrong view it as wrong...those who don't ...never will understand the cultural significance no matter how many posts. Apparently it makes no significance that a Korean has stated it is a disgusting thing to do....because it's a cool idea according to the interwebs
It started out with "Hope is a disease that must be snuffed...", and is now working its way to, "...because the Titan Network hates Koreans."
I can sympathize with what Toast was feeling, but something seemed strange at the point Toast said they were insulting the culture because they're haters. I replied that if they misunderstood Kibun, that doesn't mean it's driven by hate. And somehow that resulted in, "And that means it's OK?" That's a very black & white response, as if, Titan either HAS to be racist, or there was no wrong-doing.