Gaming industry taking more hits...
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Posted on: 2012-10-24 08:02 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I wouldn't say this is representative of the gaming industry as much as it is a company that grew extremely rapidly finally realizing that they oversaturated the market and people did all they could with their games.
...I forgot what experience means.
Yea, this is just a horribly managed company.
They been doing absurd aquisitions for insane sums (Draw Something for 180 million?!?) and growing too fast without diversifying their incomes at all. They basically placed all their eggs in the same basket, and then made the basket both, brittle and smell like bear food.
i agree zynga was never a really good company to begin with, all they basically did was FB games
man, there is going to be alot of pissed of facebook gamers.
Maybe they can join the Save COH cause and fight this thing together as one. As gamers who is not going to take it anymore.
-Female Player-
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There's no need to be petty at this point.
Zynga is just another in a long line of internet companies that really didn't have a viable, sustainable business model. However they did get their big payday when the company went public and now that it's apparent to all that they can't continue to grow earnings while losing money it's only a mater of time until they they get bought out for pennies on the dollar. The games that made their name are now past their prime and the stories about them simply cloning other developer's games shows that creatively they were just a flash in the pan.
They went from $600 million to $1.1 billion from 2010 to 2011 with profits going from $90 million up to $400 million in the red. That's right, they added $500 million to their revenues but nearly $1 billion to their annual costs.
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The business model, was to build on the same mechanics as Farmville then micro-transaction every player to death for everything. |
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Zynga is just another in a long line of internet companies that really didn't have a viable, sustainable business model. However they did get their big payday when the company went public and now that it's apparent to all that they can't continue to grow earnings while losing money it's only a mater of time until they they get bought out for pennies on the dollar. The games that made their name are now past their prime and the stories about them simply cloning other developer's games shows that creatively they were just a flash in the pan.
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I played Farmville (Hey don't judge me, I'm a gamer, I play A LOT of games...all kinds) because I liked getting the crop mastery signs. Once that got linked to micro-transactions...I let my farm dry out, moved out of the frontier, I fired my chef and left my pets to die.
Not to mention they ripped off most if not all of their games from others, including the Sims
I played Cafe World and Farmville for a couple of months, but never actually sent them any money. When more and more things stopped being buyable for the in-game currency and started requiring giving them real money and/or having to pester dozens of other people every single day for weeks (and then putting a time limit on it so that if you don't finish in time, you're stuck with a useless half-completed item - one that that can never be finished - smack dab in the middle of your farm/cafe/whatever), the games quickly lost their luster.
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Tell that to NCSoft, who are being very churlish about this whole sunsetting CoH, you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
There's no need to be petty at this point.
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And I think NCSoft was quite gracious in giving a 90 day sunset. Most MMOs get 30-60 days. The only thing I think NCSoft was churlish in doing was the way they handled the Paragon staff.
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Tell that to NCSoft, who are being very churlish about this whole sunsetting CoH, you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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Well, although Zynga made it yesterday, *TODAY* Turbine laid off some of their 400 staff as well...
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Imagine the post quoted the one above it. I was trying to be nice by not directly aiming it at one of the NCSoft Three.
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Originally Posted by houtex
Tell that to NCSoft, who are being very churlish about this whole sunsetting CoH, you ask me.
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dont see anything petty about gaining momentum by getting more people to join the cause. The cause is not only to save COX but to put the practice of game makers just pulling the plug just like that at any moment into the lime light from what I gather. What better way to do it then by joining the facebook gamers that are feeling the same thing many here are feeling? It's like a gift drop to that cause.
I know some people are as deep into farmville and other games there and put in lot of effort into it just as many have in this game and may have emotional attachments to it.
Some of those same people may be MMO gamers too, some may not be and now know it feels to lose a game they like like people seemed to have felt it here.
Not sure what tone you imagine that statement to be in but it is not the tone you probably thought it to be. Would it have been better if spoken by someone else? Or is the prejudgment of words tone in play and assigning a tone to the words based on animosity regardless of what I write?
-Female Player-
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Perhaps it was the previously demonstrated lack of support for and bordering on outright dismissal of SaveCoH that caused your sudden support to be taken in the wrong tone.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
dont see anything petty about gaining momentum by getting more people to join the cause.
... Not sure what tone you imagine that statement to be in but it is not the tone you probably thought it to be. Would it have been better if spoken by someone else? Or is the prejudgment of words tone in play and assigning a tone to the words based on animosity regardless of what I write? |
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Especially this.
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And so a person saying they are going to bootleg their stuff is suppose to get them talking?
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I dont deal with Titan because a few of them in power are a little nuts and yeah that emulator thing and the other stuff over there. It's coming off as desperate now and front like they are making a big ripple in something. They are too being mostly ignored by NCSoft and I dont think NCSoft really fear them but wouldnt be surprised if they have people watching every move just waiting for them to cross that line from the planning side onto the actual illegal action side and then pounce. I think Titan actually did everything in their power to antagonize NCsoft instead of trying a real attempt at communication. Trying to open a line of communication usually dont involve harassing the other party whether by mail, email or capes or other crap.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
There's no need to be petty at this point.
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It's not a show of support for it at all and my previous statements still stand for the actual content that they relate to.|
Originally Posted by Ogi
Perhaps it was the previously demonstrated lack of support for and bordering on outright dismissal of SaveCoH that caused your sudden support to be taken in the wrong tone.
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It's just that an observation that it seems that people can have emotional attachment to games and if they are aiming to get more people for the cause, then this may be a good time to go for it and get more.
But i keep that in mind. Judge not the content but prejudge from past posts regardless of what it says.
-Female Player-
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That was what I was talking about. I am sorry I didn't differentiate. Although I do think that if there were legitimate offers and they were rebuffed, and/or they can't keep it running for the legacy if nothing else of the Devs and allow us to continue to play the gem that it is... I am pretty sure it'd pay for itself, if the core had stayed...|
Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
And I think NCSoft was quite gracious in giving a 90 day sunset. Most MMOs get 30-60 days. The only thing I think NCSoft was churlish in doing was the way they handled the Paragon staff.
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Then again, the way they dumped the staff, I'm not certain that all of the core would have stayed. Be a bad aftertaste maybe... We enjoy the game, but we're giving money to a company that fired everyone.
Yeah.
Hm.
Mike
/In thinking a little, I probably just need to exit the forums like I did a few years ago. I'm just being a pill and reactionary in some of these threads.
//bitterman. Sigh...
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