Guild Wars 2 Exceeds 2 Million Units Sold
This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)
Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
But suffice to say PS' tried severeal times to get projects off the ground and NCsoft would refuse to fund them because they didn't fit the narrow Korean market. COH2 with character transfer capability was the major one(Some of the work done on that was what we were seeing added to the game since the incarnate system was added). As was a more dark and gritty hero mmo.
(Also, before I forget: Could we please stop telling people who don't like to support NCSoft that they are wrong? It's a perfectly reasonable stance, and their opinion is as valid as yours. Thank you.)
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If the people who are boycotting NCsoft could remind themselves not to imply that those playing GW2 are soulless, backstabbing immoral idiots, that would be super, too!
Sure.
If the people who are boycotting NCsoft could remind themselves not to imply that those playing GW2 are soulless, backstabbing immoral idiots, that would be super, too! |
(As an aside, I haven't really seen this behaviour from you, Feycat, so this isn't directly aimed at you. But you did reply! )
Thought for the day:
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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I'd personally like to know how many units sold AFTER the announcment was made.
Considering they put a temporary hold on selling digital copies of the game after the announcement was made because they didn't anticipate the number of sales and the effect it would have on their servers, I'd say the announcement that CoH was shutting down didn't have any significant impact on GW2 sales.
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So, I think we can probably conclude that sales did drop notably after the announcement about CoH.
(Disclaimer: While I might indeed be inferring that the drops in sales of GW2 are related to CoH being shut down and not, you know, because that ArenaNet stopped selling their game, this was merely for humorous effect. I realize than in actuality those two things are unlikely to be even slightly connected.)
Thought for the day:
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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Guild Wars 2 got a ton of almost universally positive buzz in the months leading up to launch, and by all accounts it is a very well made game, so I doubt that anything would have a significant impact on their sales. Youtube vids of Anet devs and NCsoft execs eating babies and throwing puppies off of cliffs probably wouldn't have slowed the GW2 juggernaut.
If there is lasting fallout from the decision to shut down CoH it won't be in sudden drops in sales of a particular game, but a drop in gamer confidence in NCsoft. This latest addition to their kill list only reinforces NCsoft's reputation as THE MMO Killer.
But it'll all depend on what happens next. I suspect most of those calling for boycotts and the like will forgive and forget... if CoH is saved.
Still not interested. Don't care how good it is. Don't care if Arenanet are the nicest folks this side of our Dev team.
NCSoft does NOT get my money! Ever. If Arenanet breaks away from NCSoft and goes it on their own, I'll gladly support them. Until then? No. Not budging. Can't trust NCSoft. |
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I am actually really enjoying GW2. Did not think I would ever play another fantasy genre after WoW but I am pleased I tried this out.
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This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)
Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall. |
I bought and play GW2. After two weeks and something like sixty levels across three alts, this ain't no TORtanic - not by a long shot. Its honestly the closest experience I've had to CoH in a fantasy MMO.
I reckon once the honeymoon wears off a significant chunk of the hardcore will jump ship to Pandaria.
Thats what my hardcore gamer buddies are doing anyway. SWToR will probably loose a chunk of players too.
I have expected them to do well. But the game is still new and we will see how it will mature.
Personally, I don't want to give my money to NCsoft while they have this management. If their management change in future, I might give it the try, but for now, I will spend my money on non-NCsoft games (and since I have played only GW1 and CoH so far - there are lot of games out there to test).
"If you want to win you must not lose."
"Easiest way to turn defeat into a victory is to put on the enemy's uniform"
"Better strategic retreat than dishonorable defeat"
Techically, ArenaNet suspended digital sales on Thursday, 30th. The announcement that CoH was closing happened a day later, on Friday 31st of August.
So, I think we can probably conclude that sales did drop notably after the announcement about CoH. (Disclaimer: While I might indeed be inferring that the drops in sales of GW2 are related to CoH being shut down and not, you know, because that ArenaNet stopped selling their game, this was merely for humorous effect. I realize than in actuality those two things are unlikely to be even slightly connected.) |
This. NCSoft will never earn another dime from me for their distastful treatment of CoH and its Devs.
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So if NCSoft decided not to shut down CoH come Nov 30th you'll be dropping to Prem and boycotting the Paragon Store? Maybe even refusing to play at all?
Just curious.
Let's see if I can get the forums to NOT eat this...
This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)
Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall. |
And it was TERRIBLE. The initial story/playthrough was ok, in a single-player KOTOR sort of way, but the MMO parts of the game were stapled on crooked with a rusty staplegun. And the PvP was beyond belief bad. You had to grind PvP instances to get a chance for your gear, like it was PvE - the SAME three instances you'd been playing all the way up. The PvP world zone was a buggy joke and again, mostly PvE goals. And the game itself had NOTHING for you once you hit top level other than those instances. Over and over. I paid for one month past the free one, to stay with my guild, but by the end of the second month, most everyone was "on hiatus til they fix this." And now scattered to the wind.
GW2 is a GOOD game. More importantly, it's not a sub game. People can come and go as they please. There won't be a huge sub drop when Pandaria comes out, because there are no subs. People can go play WoW's new xpac if they want, drop in for an hour or two of GW2, or just wait til WoW's new content runs out and then go back. It'll be there. And probably with quite a bit of new content, since the Anet team has committed to a lot of little free updates like Paragon did.
What, you have conditions on behaving decently? Just because they are being out of line, is not an excuse for you to be out of line. Both sides could do with with some toning down. The (other half of) the community is not your enemy.
(As an aside, I haven't really seen this behaviour from you, Feycat, so this isn't directly aimed at you. But you did reply! ) |
Haven't gone through the rest of the thread, but I'm finding this an obvious comment: The more successful GW2 is, the less NCSoft is going to care about CoX.
Our only hope at this point is for them to sell off the IP, IMHO.
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Thought for the day:
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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http://oceanicgamer.com/2012/09/gw2-...the-beginning/
But seriously, did anyone really expect to see a massive drop in GW2 sales? It's a pretty good game, that has been hyped to the moon, I really can't blame people for checking it out. And ANet seems like a good development team.
I just hope NCSoft hasn't shut it down before I get home from work.
(Also, before I forget: Could we please stop telling people who don't like to support NCSoft that they are wrong? It's a perfectly reasonable stance, and their opinion is as valid as yours. Thank you.)
Thought for the day:
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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