Guild Wars 2 Exceeds 2 Million Units Sold


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Originally Posted by Arson_NA View Post
Looks like negative press from this affair has done nothing (although a lot of units are probably pre-orders before they ****** up).

http://oceanicgamer.com/2012/09/gw2-...the-beginning/
Pff. Conjecture. For all we know, it could have been 20 million without the negative press!

But seriously, did anyone really expect to see a massive drop in GW2 sales? It's a pretty good game, that has been hyped to the moon, I really can't blame people for checking it out. And ANet seems like a good development team.

I just hope NCSoft hasn't shut it down before I get home from work.

(Also, before I forget: Could we please stop telling people who don't like to support NCSoft that they are wrong? It's a perfectly reasonable stance, and their opinion is as valid as yours. Thank you.)


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This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)

Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall.


 

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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
But seriously, did anyone really expect to see a massive drop in GW2 sales?
I'm no longer surprised when good games do poorly or when bad games do well, much less when games that are expected to sell well on brand alone do well regardless of whether they're good or bad.


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Do you have a source for the CoH2 project?
We can't link the article on the forums. The times I've seen it up here it's Mod Nuked since it was leaked information.

But suffice to say PS' tried severeal times to get projects off the ground and NCsoft would refuse to fund them because they didn't fit the narrow Korean market. COH2 with character transfer capability was the major one(Some of the work done on that was what we were seeing added to the game since the incarnate system was added). As was a more dark and gritty hero mmo.


 

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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
(Also, before I forget: Could we please stop telling people who don't like to support NCSoft that they are wrong? It's a perfectly reasonable stance, and their opinion is as valid as yours. Thank you.)
Sure.

If the people who are boycotting NCsoft could remind themselves not to imply that those playing GW2 are soulless, backstabbing immoral idiots, that would be super, too!


 

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Originally Posted by Feycat View Post
Sure.

If the people who are boycotting NCsoft could remind themselves not to imply that those playing GW2 are soulless, backstabbing immoral idiots, that would be super, too!
What, you have conditions on behaving decently? Just because they are being out of line, is not an excuse for you to be out of line. Both sides could do with with some toning down. The (other half of) the community is not your enemy.

(As an aside, I haven't really seen this behaviour from you, Feycat, so this isn't directly aimed at you. But you did reply! )


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I'd personally like to know how many units sold AFTER the announcment was made.


 

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I'd personally like to know how many units sold AFTER the announcment was made.
Considering they put a temporary hold on selling digital copies of the game after the announcement was made because they didn't anticipate the number of sales and the effect it would have on their servers, I'd say the announcement that CoH was shutting down didn't have any significant impact on GW2 sales.


 

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Considering they put a temporary hold on selling digital copies of the game after the announcement was made because they didn't anticipate the number of sales and the effect it would have on their servers, I'd say the announcement that CoH was shutting down didn't have any significant impact on GW2 sales.
Techically, ArenaNet suspended digital sales on Thursday, 30th. The announcement that CoH was closing happened a day later, on Friday 31st of August.

So, I think we can probably conclude that sales did drop notably after the announcement about CoH.

(Disclaimer: While I might indeed be inferring that the drops in sales of GW2 are related to CoH being shut down and not, you know, because that ArenaNet stopped selling their game, this was merely for humorous effect. I realize than in actuality those two things are unlikely to be even slightly connected.)


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Guild Wars 2 got a ton of almost universally positive buzz in the months leading up to launch, and by all accounts it is a very well made game, so I doubt that anything would have a significant impact on their sales. Youtube vids of Anet devs and NCsoft execs eating babies and throwing puppies off of cliffs probably wouldn't have slowed the GW2 juggernaut.

If there is lasting fallout from the decision to shut down CoH it won't be in sudden drops in sales of a particular game, but a drop in gamer confidence in NCsoft. This latest addition to their kill list only reinforces NCsoft's reputation as THE MMO Killer.

But it'll all depend on what happens next. I suspect most of those calling for boycotts and the like will forgive and forget... if CoH is saved.


 

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Originally Posted by Atlantea View Post
Still not interested. Don't care how good it is. Don't care if Arenanet are the nicest folks this side of our Dev team.

NCSoft does NOT get my money!

Ever.

If Arenanet breaks away from NCSoft and goes it on their own, I'll gladly support them. Until then? No. Not budging. Can't trust NCSoft.
This. NCSoft will never earn another dime from me for their distastful treatment of CoH and its Devs.


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Nope - how much you want to bet that Gamestop got screwed as they paid for two full copies and got to profit from only one?
Considering all the screwing GameStop does with used games I doubt it hurt them.


 

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This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)

Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall.
I bought and played TOR. After two weeks and fifty levels across three alts, I knew the TORtanic was down by the bow, hit a lifeboat back to Paragon City, and haven't been surprised at all at how badly the Small World ride masquerading as a game cratered.

I bought and play GW2. After two weeks and something like sixty levels across three alts, this ain't no TORtanic - not by a long shot. Its honestly the closest experience I've had to CoH in a fantasy MMO.


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I reckon once the honeymoon wears off a significant chunk of the hardcore will jump ship to Pandaria.
Thats what my hardcore gamer buddies are doing anyway. SWToR will probably loose a chunk of players too.


 

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I have expected them to do well. But the game is still new and we will see how it will mature.

Personally, I don't want to give my money to NCsoft while they have this management. If their management change in future, I might give it the try, but for now, I will spend my money on non-NCsoft games (and since I have played only GW1 and CoH so far - there are lot of games out there to test).


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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
Techically, ArenaNet suspended digital sales on Thursday, 30th. The announcement that CoH was closing happened a day later, on Friday 31st of August.

So, I think we can probably conclude that sales did drop notably after the announcement about CoH.

(Disclaimer: While I might indeed be inferring that the drops in sales of GW2 are related to CoH being shut down and not, you know, because that ArenaNet stopped selling their game, this was merely for humorous effect. I realize than in actuality those two things are unlikely to be even slightly connected.)
Sorry my bad about the dates. You are right. I only heard of it after the announcement was made and confused when I heard of it with when they announced it.


 

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Originally Posted by Acroyear2 View Post
This. NCSoft will never earn another dime from me for their distastful treatment of CoH and its Devs.

So if NCSoft decided not to shut down CoH come Nov 30th you'll be dropping to Prem and boycotting the Paragon Store? Maybe even refusing to play at all?

Just curious.


 

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Originally Posted by Star_Seer View Post
SWToR will probably loose a chunk of players too.
Uhm. TOR doesn't have any chunks left to lose. All they have left is a few rats clinging to the wreckage of the TORtanic.


 

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Let's see if I can get the forums to NOT eat this...


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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter View Post
This thread just screams what was said about SWTOR last December, right after the much more versatile SWG was shut down to make way for it (which ALSO feels eerily familiar to the current situation)

Then came the Tortanic iceberg. EA's (another rather evil mega game corporation usually referenced by 2 letters) stocks crashed like a stone, half the population left, and SWTOR is going F2P in the fall.
Except TOR was a BAD MMO. Seriously. I played it at launch, pre-ordered it and took part in the pre-order sneak peek/betas. Had to go because my PVP guild HAD to play it because about half of them were SW-fanbois and had played SWG. My guild leader was so certain of this game, he offered to buy the copy of anyone who hated it, so everyone could try it risk-free if they wanted.

And it was TERRIBLE. The initial story/playthrough was ok, in a single-player KOTOR sort of way, but the MMO parts of the game were stapled on crooked with a rusty staplegun. And the PvP was beyond belief bad. You had to grind PvP instances to get a chance for your gear, like it was PvE - the SAME three instances you'd been playing all the way up. The PvP world zone was a buggy joke and again, mostly PvE goals. And the game itself had NOTHING for you once you hit top level other than those instances. Over and over. I paid for one month past the free one, to stay with my guild, but by the end of the second month, most everyone was "on hiatus til they fix this." And now scattered to the wind.

GW2 is a GOOD game. More importantly, it's not a sub game. People can come and go as they please. There won't be a huge sub drop when Pandaria comes out, because there are no subs. People can go play WoW's new xpac if they want, drop in for an hour or two of GW2, or just wait til WoW's new content runs out and then go back. It'll be there. And probably with quite a bit of new content, since the Anet team has committed to a lot of little free updates like Paragon did.

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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh View Post
What, you have conditions on behaving decently? Just because they are being out of line, is not an excuse for you to be out of line. Both sides could do with with some toning down. The (other half of) the community is not your enemy.

(As an aside, I haven't really seen this behaviour from you, Feycat, so this isn't directly aimed at you. But you did reply! )
Nah, that's not how I meant it. More of a "yes, the GW2 people trolling threads should stop. ALSO, the other side should stop throwing monkey poop on people about it." We need unity right now, not infighting, and I'm sure that BOTH sides are driving folks away.


 

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Haven't gone through the rest of the thread, but I'm finding this an obvious comment: The more successful GW2 is, the less NCSoft is going to care about CoX.

Our only hope at this point is for them to sell off the IP, IMHO.


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Nah, that's not how I meant it. More of a "yes, the GW2 people trolling threads should stop. ALSO, the other side should stop throwing monkey poop on people about it." We need unity right now, not infighting, and I'm sure that BOTH sides are driving folks away.
Couldn't agree more.


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