Revised iReport up on CNN
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American_Knight,
Posted on: 2012-09-11 11:55 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
People need to play up the economic impact of this as well.
80 American workers lost their jobs because some Korean company made a whack decision in some boardroom 1000s miles away.
The money the players were spending on the game was going to someone here in the US as well (the 3rd party store folks).
And what about the folks working the servers in TX?
The economy is big national news.
There's your in.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance_MK2
Its now CNN vetted & official.
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I gave it my "this belongs on CNN" green light! Is there a chance this could end up on CNN proper?
*This belongs on CNN*
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Maybe we'll get linked to their geek blog.
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This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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God I hope you're kidding.
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix. |
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That's why I say their Geek blog. They've covered cosplaying at Dragon-con and sexism in gaming. A link to one of the Geek blog stories occasionally appear on their front page.
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Got any better ideas?
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix. |
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I had a legit response typed up and ready for you, but then I realized you probs don't care regardless of what's said.|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix. |
So.
I thought the whole point of iReport was to allow people a chance to report on news directly relevant to their interests, which CNN would then approve based on its quality. CNN itself runs a website that, in theory, has plenty of space for all kinds of articles, including African warlords. Or to borrow a Wikipedian catchphrase, "CNN's website is not paper."
Speaking of Wikipedia, I tried to cite the vetted iReport carticle on the City of Heroes page, but it was immediately removed by a Wikipedian saying that op-ed pieces don't count. C'est la vie.
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But I'll bite. I've got about five minutes.|
Originally Posted by Xzero45
I had a legit response typed up and ready for you, but then I realized you probs don't care regardless of what's said.
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
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It's using iReport--a tool which regularly sees far, far less news-worthy topics--to address an online community's reaction to the potential destruction of said community. Parallels can be drawn to the potential destruction of real-world communities; as these parallels can at least be drawn--however tenuously--this can be a story of legitimate journalistic merit that highlights the emergence of purely virtual societies in post-Industrial America.
Annnd...that's my five minutes. Good work, Paindancer! Keep spreading the word, everyone! This article needs hits, too!
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Nope. Pretty sure I'll have the option available to play CoH in a year or two irrespective of what goes down. And regardless of that, I agree with Canny; just because CO isn't in the state I'd like right now doesn't mean it couldn't be. (Nor does it preclude TSW hitting the 'awesome' button it's been hunting for way harder, or even a new property surprising me out of nowhere.)|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want ... to save a game?
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I want to save the CoH community and, insofar as it's possible, Paragon Studios. I like those guys.
I've compared this to saving a city park. Do you find fault with that analogy, or do you think that's an illegitimate news story too?
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Have you actually read the news on most national and international news organizations. I have. Daily. And that's why I know how astronomically idiotic what I have quoted here is. Really, I want the energy back from the lit pixels on my screen that showed me the rampant stupidity this illustrated.|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
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First of all, gaming news isn't going to displace warlords in Africa unless no one was reporting on those warlords to begin with. News organizations will report on what they think is news, and I promise you, for CoH to get their time, there was nothing else going on they cared about more.
News isn't a zero-sum game. It's not like CNN.com is a newspaper where only so many stories can fit on the pages available. It's a website. They can slap on as many web pages as they have people to create. The only contention is for those man hours. And I promise you, the people vetting stories like ours are not the ones looking for stories about what's going on in Africa, Syria, Greece, or wherever else life-changing (or life-ending) news stories are breaking.
Wake the hell up.
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix. |
i guess, you are right....
an event that is changing the way the gaming industry is going to look at sunsetting projects isnt news.
People standing up to faceless corperate decisions isnt news.
People concerned about the jobs, welfare of others, etc being cost isnt news.
So...
in your world.. you just take what the man gives you, sit down, shut up, be quiet, because you have no voice, no say, no right to be heard.
funny.. you dont seem that type.
I think you are just trolling for the sake of trolling.
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Dear god, listen to yourself man. It's a game. "Faceless corporate decisions"? "The man"? Boyo, if you were even half as active as I am in politics...|
Originally Posted by Vengeance_MK2
Did you even bother to read my article?
i guess, you are right.... an event that is changing the way the gaming industry is going to look at sunsetting projects isnt news. People standing up to faceless corperate decisions isnt news. People concerned about the jobs, welfare of others, etc being cost isnt news. So... in your world.. you just take what the man gives you, sit down, shut up, be quiet, because you have no voice, no say, no right to be heard. funny.. you dont seem that type. I think you are just trolling for the sake of trolling. |
The fact is, this is not worthy of CNN. This is worthy of gaming magazines and websites. I say the same thing about many of the other stupid stories. There are people who are getting gutted by corporate decisions who have worked at corporations for the better part of their lives. Factories are being closed that employ thousands of American workers so we can ship jobs to lands where workers make pennies on the hour.
If I could save City of Heroes, I would. Do I think the developers at Paragon Studios deserve to keep their jobs? Yes. But I think we need to gain some perspective here. We're a gaming community. NCSoft's decision affected the gaming and entertainment lives of a few dozen-thousand people, and the work lives of less than a hundred. This is not "standing up to the man". This is whining and screaming and trying to act more important than you really are, to an organization that reports bombing runs on Baghdad and uprisings in Syria. Perspective, grasshoppah. Do an iReport to a gaming mag.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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So.. should I have made some noise or not according to you? Ill take that to mean, 'No, I didnt bother to read it, and am ******** on pricniple'|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
There are people who are getting gutted by corporate decisions who have worked at corporations for the better part of their lives. Factories are being closed that employ thousands of American workers so we can ship jobs to lands where workers make pennies on the hour.
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(lets see, if I am Grasshoppa, does that make you Flick here?)
Ok Flick, the issue is, you are wrapped up in your perspective. That it is a game. And from that perspective, you are right. I probably wouldn't have made the effort if that's all it was.
But.. there is more to whats going on that that.
We have issues of employment, and the marginalization of the American market. We have corporate decisions ignoring the consumer desire (these actions are appropriate checks and balances to corporate power, btw). We have the fact that this game is as much a social platform where families keep in contact, disabled vets run and fly again and more.
So.. Flick, it really is a big ol world out there, and there is more to it than the perspective you can get from your anthill.
Simply put, there is more here to save, than just a game.
You just dont see it. Thats all.
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Again, grow up. This isn't an American company shipping jobs to China. This is a Korean company shipping jobs to Korea. Can you fault them for it?| We have issues of employment, and the marginalization of the American market. |
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| We have the fact that this game is as much a social platform where families keep in contact, disabled vets run and fly again and more. |
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| Simply put, there is more here to save, than just a game. |
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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Then what of the official articles posted by actual CNN reporters for WoW seeing a dip in subscribers, hype surrounding the Pandarama expansion, the recent Blizzard security breach or the ruckus created by ME3 fans over the ending of the game?|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
This is disturbing. You folks want to hijack a feature designed to bring attention to things like warlords in Africa and other things that escape a WORLD WIDE NEWS SERVICE ... to save a game?
Y'all are little better than crack addicts desperate for a fix. |
If you don't care about the situation, fine. But please don't belittle the people who do.
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If CNN didn't feel this was worthy of their glorious website, then why would they approve it? There's also the fact that CNN does have a section devoted to gaming.|
Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
Dear god, listen to yourself man. It's a game. "Faceless corporate decisions"? "The man"? Boyo, if you were even half as active as I am in politics...
The fact is, this is not worthy of CNN. This is worthy of gaming magazines and websites. I say the same thing about many of the other stupid stories. There are people who are getting gutted by corporate decisions who have worked at corporations for the better part of their lives. Factories are being closed that employ thousands of American workers so we can ship jobs to lands where workers make pennies on the hour. If I could save City of Heroes, I would. Do I think the developers at Paragon Studios deserve to keep their jobs? Yes. But I think we need to gain some perspective here. We're a gaming community. NCSoft's decision affected the gaming and entertainment lives of a few dozen-thousand people, and the work lives of less than a hundred. This is not "standing up to the man". This is whining and screaming and trying to act more important than you really are, to an organization that reports bombing runs on Baghdad and uprisings in Syria. Perspective, grasshoppah. Do an iReport to a gaming mag. |
To the OP: Nice article and congrats on getting it vetted.
The social media aspect of this is itself news... it's got to be more newsworthy than the interestingly split colored cat that got adopted ... that made my the TV news here in the Detroit area. ABC... and maybe Fox too... i forget
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Truth, right here. Angry_Citizen, if you're going to throw a temper tantrum about CNN allowing coverage of gaming issues, and if you seriously think that's somehow taking away from coverage on African warlords, you should be complaining to CNN. The community's efforts to get coverage of City of Heroes on CNN, as CNN has done with World of Warcraft, is not a sign that the community needs to "grow up."
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Originally Posted by Xieveral
Then what of the official articles posted by actual CNN reporters for WoW seeing a dip in subscribers, hype surrounding the Pandarama expansion, the recent Blizzard security breach or the ruckus created by ME3 fans over the ending of the game?
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Angry, I get your point, the closure of Paragon Studios and CoH isn't a world-changing event, and it's certainly not the biggest news story that CNN has gotten a scoop on, but it is newsworthy.
CNN aren't gonna drop all their stories about Afghanistan or social injustice or civil wars just because we signed a petition, but they can assign one journalist to write an article that can be linked on their front page, if people show enough interest. I think that's all we can ask for from them, and that's fine.
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
Again, grow up. This isn't an American company shipping jobs to China. This is a Korean company shipping jobs to Korea. Can you fault them for it?
And where snotnosed teens get their lulz. I love it when people try to pull rhetorical devices on me. No sir, it is just a game. It is a game with many tangential benefits that ALL social games share. By all means save it, just don't bother CNN with it. You really think anyone's going to care who isn't already a die-hard gamer? |
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
You really think anyone's going to care who isn't already a die-hard gamer?
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For the rest of it, a wise man once said,
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Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen
Dear god, listen to yourself man.
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Start pushing that down all your friends and family's throats. If we can get that many signatures to save the game in a few hours we shouldhave already been on CNN's tv broadcast by now!
Yes, that's the button I pushed. I'll see if I can get more.