If you could have back just ONE nerfed power/feature before game ends...

...what would it be?

I think I'd want to roll back to the pre-ED days but leave everything else intact, including the GDN. Not sure what this would do to things given the mechanics of IO's but I really never felt quite so super-hero'ish as when I ran a Perma-MOG reginner.

Too many permutations to consider just one, really. But if you could have JUST one, what would it be and why?

I started with issue 7 and never had a chance to mess around without ED.

But I did make a character and fall in love with the flow of the powerset and just how absolutely fun it was to essentially point at something and watch it die.



The new animation isn't terrible. It just broke the flow of the set. I would have loved for it to replace the Assassin's Strike animation, or the one for Total Focus (where it would actually help the power!).

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

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Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

All the fire imps.

Aggro limits. I want to see a group of tanks suck an entire zone's worth of critters into an area again.

I'm going to second Energy Melee. I never got to play it myself, but it was the one I saw that most impressed me.

I'd like to see the secondary claws only damage modification removed.

Ack! You guys already named all the cool suggestions.

To pick just one, probably the oldschool pets. Imagine having those 15 fire imps on a /fire permadom, along with the KD proc in Bonfire.

Roll back the purple patch.

Hands down, the aggro cap. Man oh man if I could just have unlimited aggro for ONE day...oh Lordy the things I could do and the fun I would have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I13's PvP changes. Or at the very least, I wish they would've continued with what they had planned instead of abandoning it and killing PvP outright.

Nothing.

I have no issues with any corrections made to the game over the years... and didn't start playing until i10, so I didn't have any experience with the really big changes that happened before that.

In fact, if things changed at the end, I would probably be a bit annoyed actually. I am very used to how things work. And I really like the majority of my characters exactly how they are.

The change which messed up kheldian shapeshifting. That one hurt more than anything, because it was directed at the costume change nerf, not anything kheldians were doing.

TL;DR version: not all of the i13 PvP changes were bad, but there were lots of them so I just picked one thing rather than a whole collection.

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Originally Posted by Xzero45 I13's PvP changes. Or at the very least, I wish they would've continued with what they had planned instead of abandoning it and killing PvP outright.

Well... yeah. But, as mentioned here:

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill A lot of "nerfs," once you get some time away from them, you can point at and say "OK, sure, the game's better now, because we got to do this." ED and GDN? Well, we were supposed to get the SSOCS... we eventually got IOs, and yes, it was good. The PVP changes... I can't say that with. I used to love getting on groups in Siren's Call (especially) and BB - I found the lower level zones more fun, but Siren's was the better of the two, IMHO. Post-I13 - that zone was dead. Post-I13 to last week, I think I'd gotten into... perhaps 10? Fewer than 20 - and if I'm exaggerating (understating?) the numbers it's not intentional or by that many - fights. That in the same zones on the same servers that used to host full teams (plus overflow) going at it. The biggest problem with the changes, though, I think were how they were introduced. I don't mean the back and forth with the community vs rednames - I mean they threw a lot of changes in all at once, and really seemed to never look back or adjust much. It *should,* IMHO, have been an ongoing process - "OK, first we'll try this, does this take things the way we want to go, ok, then try this next" - instead of "ok, we're changing EVERYTHING!" It was the equivalent of, say, hearing a rattle in the car and taking it entirely apart, then - while standing in the middle of a bunch of body panels, random wires, interior bits, engine on a hoist, etc, asking if it still rattles. If that's too big of a leap, then yeah, the old Energy Transfer. If the speed was too fast, then make it take more of my HP or something in return for that "big hit." I liked that tradeoff, quite honestly.

... i13 changed a LOT more than just one thing in PvP. And it did it all at once, so I didn't consider it to be on the table.

But many of the changes were things that were requested for a long time by the PvP community - it wasn't that they weren't listening when they were planning it, it was that they didn't listen once they implemented it and they tried a shotgun blast approach of "do everything at once!" rather than, as mentioned in the second quote, working things in slowly to see how it impacted things.

Second builds alone - which were also part of i13 - would have been great with no other PvP changes at all, because you could then skip the need to respec after you get your accolades. This was probably one of the biggest barriers to entry at the time, because even on FotM PvP builds you either built for PvP or did poorly against someone who did, and had to completely scrap your current build to PvP with a character.

Tagging the powers for player vs critter targets had already been done for some powers prior to i13 but was done wholesale with different damage values and not just irresistable damage and/or debuffs, and defense powers reacting to being in a PvP zone to provide the more exotic resistances for those environments was a good thing (especially given the lack of grantable psi resistance). While changing how powers work by a huge margin is one of the complaints, I think that a balance pass on damage vs available resistances for PvP could have helped without changing the old learning curve, which was much smoother than the current one.

A lot of arena options were added, although they took a long time to get working correctly. I personally think that done correctly THOSE few changes were sufficient to meet the requests of the community and you probably wouldn't even need all of them. But along with those changes came heal decay, movement suppression, mez-resistance-only, free resistances, and diminishing returns, which were all unpopular overkill.

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

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Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

I don't know why you're trying to make it seem like my very general and open ended choice, in which nothing specific about the PvP changes was even mentioned, is wrong and uneducated. But okay. :\

Unlimited aggro cap for me too. I'd love to unleash a Final Ion Judgement on all of Perez Park.

Hi guys,

just give me back all the AE badges that you removed 2 days after I had collected them all!

Then I could go out having burst through the 1400 badges earned barrier.

Not much to ask for is it

Cheers

Energy Transfer. That power was amazing and I *loved* bashing things in the face with my hand. I used it so much that I somewhat regularly killed myself with it (I tend to play pretty fast and loose, without much regard for my personal safety).

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Choice 1 would be aggro cap.

Choice 2 would probably be controller pets.

Choice 3 would be ET

PvP would be on there but no one would come back so it'd mainly be a waste :P

Old IH and also getting rid of the aggro cap, or at least increasing it a bit. To often I have to yell aggro cap when 2 mobs get aggroed on a full team.