NCSoft just made a huge mistake. And now, they're business will be on a decline.
"Reality check on aisle two, we need a reality check."
CoH has very little to do with NCSoft's bottom line. And yeah, they lost some goodwill. But honestly, I'd be shocked if the number of people who will actually boycott NCSoft reaches 5 digits.
"Reality check on aisle two, we need a reality check."
CoH has very little to do with NCSoft's bottom line. And yeah, they lost some goodwill. But honestly, I'd be shocked if the number of people who will actually boycott NCSoft reaches 5 digits. |
It's not boycotting in actuality. Its the idea that no other game will offer what CoH does for people. It's all the same ole ****, again.
Which gets stale after awhile. I am predicting a loss of a lot of money.
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NCSoft will fail without our help. They think GW2 will be their WoW killer and their saving grace. In my opinion, it's just not going to happen.
The hit they're taking from the COH community just piles on to an already failing company imo. I will in all likelihood be giving my business to Champions, and will without a doubt never be touching an NCSoft product again.
But, NCSoft's other MMOs are much larger (apparently, the drop in income from Aion is greater than the total income from CoH). The player base might be fiercely loyal, but many of us weren't interested in NCSoft's other games anyways (oh yay, generic grindfest in a forest!).
I'm pretty sure NCSoft sacrificed CoH merely to improve their bottom line temporarily, until they can report how many truck-fulls of money GW2 has made them.
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I have tried some other games, but CoH is the best for me. I am not alone in this, as I have read here in the forums. CoH is the ONLY mmo I would ever actually pay for. No other game comes close, nor am I looking for anything to replace it.
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As I've stated: Nothing will be a WoW killer. In order for WoW to die the MMO market would have to be so blown to **** that no other MMO could exist.
Yes, this will effect NCsoft. They are losing most of the dedicated fans of this game. Those are the fans you want to keep with your company: They are the most likely to put up with whatever slap to the face you deal with them, they provide a steady income. Nuking the game they're loyal to is not the way to keep them.
It will also be providing extremely bad publicity for NCsoft.
It's not boycotting in actuality. Its the idea that no other game will offer what CoH does for people. It's all the same ole ****, again.
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You don't have to predict. NCSoft is a publicly traded company and their earnings statements are public record. CoH is 2% of NCSoft's gross sales.
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The GW2 server problems and the suspension of GW2 digital sales will hit their Q3 earnings - the savings made by axing a small-ish studio should help to balance the loss.
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You do realize they're also going to take a one-time hit for severance for Paragon employees, right?
Every single "they killed Paragon to make their financials look better" idea I've seen has been completely delusional.
Dammit, I'm doing it again. Trying to educate the financially illiterate. I'm out, please resume incomprehensible conspiracy theories.
NCSoft did. Exactly why, we don't know (was it to try to make up on their books for the $6 million in losses they had last quarter? Because they couldn't renew their license with PWE for the engine? Because Positron made a joke that some big-wig in Korea found highly offensive? We can only guess).
But, NCSoft's other MMOs are much larger (apparently, the drop in income from Aion is greater than the total income from CoH). The player base might be fiercely loyal, but many of us weren't interested in NCSoft's other games anyways (oh yay, generic grindfest in a forest!). I'm pretty sure NCSoft sacrificed CoH merely to improve their bottom line temporarily, until they can report how many truck-fulls of money GW2 has made them. |
Petitions, Boycott sites, and the chat on the global channels in game make it clear this isn't a cookie cutter closing of a game, people are ****ed and they're going to be heard.
They were banking we'd be dumb enough to buy GW2 because it's the newest thing out there. I haven't heard one person yet say they were going to THAT game. I won't, my supergroup won't, my Aion legion (quitting in its entirity in protest) won't. No one I've heard on my 10 global channels is.
They've screwed the pooch and are going to pay the piper in the coming year.
Oh, and join my FB group "Boycott NCSoft"
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The GW2 server problems and the suspension of GW2 digital sales will hit their Q3 earnings - the savings made by axing a small-ish studio should help to balance the loss.
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But it isn't stopping people from going out to purchase the game physically and using the code from that.
Although, to be honest, once again, this just goes to show that with the utmost testing of a product, something *always* exceeds your expectations (unless you are the military, where a missing semi- colon produces interesting results in testing)
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In dollars and cents the damage done will be minimal, it's only realistic to acknowledge that.
But... their image within the western MMO community will take a hit, a big hit. NCsoft are known for killing off MMOs, but never one this big, this long established and so apparently healthy.
It's the way they've done it. No cutbacks, no server mergers, no maintenance mode, no attempt to keep the game alive in some way, and if they've treated us badly then they've treated Paragon Studios appallingly. I think that's going to be the tipping point for many people.
Callous, cowardly and cruel is how I'd describe it. This won't be forgotten.
Dammit, I'm doing it again. Trying to educate the financially illiterate. I'm out, please resume incomprehensible conspiracy theories.
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You have 2 points to the balance system.
A left and a right.
Comic and Fantasy
When you eliminate one side it begins to tip and thus is unbalanced. It's all downhill from there.
Without the comic MMO what is there? DCUO and CO dont make that much revenue to be a huge money maker. CoH has that potential being the first to kick off the MMO balancing for comsumers.
It's all about the people. That's the issue with the Corporate World. It's all about the money. And with money comes greed. And with greed comes consequences over time.
Their consequence will be a dying fan base and lack of interest.
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What I can 't get my head around is that now, more than ever, exposure to the super hero genre is in the ascention. Every other movie is either a super hero flick, and we've had siesmic ones lately and a lot more to follow, or else a film with a super power theme such as Chronicles. Even the Jason Bourne legacy has an enhanced man as its hero.
And NC has a superhero game, full of content, full of ideas and enthusiasm right there.
I would have thought that NC, rather than close down a brand that, by all accounts IS making a profit, would actually put dollars into getting the game fully out there.
It's hard for me to understand why NC didn't want to capitalise on the super hero explosion.
Don't get into a flap. It's only my opinion and I'm thick
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What I can 't get my head around is that now, more than ever, exposure to the super hero genre is in the ascention. Every other movie is either a super hero flick, and we've had siesmic ones lately and a lot more to follow, or else a film with a super power theme such as Chronicles. Even the Jason Bourne legacy has an enhanced man as its hero.
And NC has a superhero game, full of content, full of ideas and enthusiasm right there. I would have thought that NC, rather than close down a brand that, by all accounts IS making a profit, would actually put dollars into getting the game fully out there. It's hard for me to understand why NC didn't want to capitalise on the super hero explosion. |
I won't be boycotting, per se. I will be a bit more careful about where I sink my money in the future.
Aion/NCSoft can cry me a river about its cash shop not generating enough revenue though. NCSoft has demonstrated that they are willing to sell costume packs and powerset expansions with (apparent) knowledge that they plan to renege access to these things within a few months. I certainly wouldn't have spent as much as I did had I known they planned to cancel the game within 3 months. I already own Guild Wars 2, but it will be a long, long time before I purchase anything but the base game from this company again.
Long story short: my fault for being too trusting. But before they issue any more patronizing letters about this game not being in their long term interest, perhaps they should sit down and consider that further investment in a company that has total disregard for its own customers is not in my interest either.
I won't be boycotting, per se. I will be a bit more careful about where I sink my money in the future.
Aion/NCSoft can cry me a river about its cash shop not generating enough revenue though. NCSoft has demonstrated that they are willing to sell costume packs and powerset expansions with (apparent) knowledge that they plan to renege access to these things within a few months. I certainly wouldn't have spent as much as I did had I known they planned to cancel the game within 3 months. I already own Guild Wars 2, but it will be a long, long time before I purchase anything but the base game from this company again. Long story short: my fault for being too trusting. But before they issue any more patronizing letters about this game not being in their long term interest, perhaps they should sit down and consider that further investment in a company that has total disregard for its own customers is not in my interest either. |
Like he said, I'm not really 'boycotting' anything, but I spent quite a bit of real money on CoH in 2012. And I understand that each of those purchases were my choice and I didn't begrudge them at all at the time, because I thought I was contributing to the continued existence of a game I truly enjoy.
However, NCSoft has demonstrated with this decision that they are a.) willing to kill a game with no notification whatsoever and b.) willing to do it in such a way that their customer base has JUST sunk money into the game with almost nothing in return whatsoever.
It's sort of like if a mechanic stares at you and says nothing as you plunk down $400 for a new alternator, accepts the money, installs the alternator, and THEN tells you that you that you also threw a rod and that there's no way to fully repair the car. You would probably think twice about ever using that mechanic again when you buy a new car.
- Mike
I think its more like you buy the Alternator, he puts it in, then hits you in the face and steals the money and the car.
I just have a hard time trying to find the logic in all of this.
Regardless, if the rights do get sold, it might be possible to keep some stuff.
You know that demoplayer editor program whatever for coh? Well I forget what its called but you can code it so it would look like the game is doing what you told it to do. Back engineer that.
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Let's be honest, with CoH down this will leave a bitter taste in all of us. We will most likely not want to try other ncsoft games as they never and I mean never will be able to fill the void CoH had for all of us. Most of us, including me, grew up with this game. I can honestly say that about myself, from 14 to 22 now. No other game will offer what CoH does. No other game has the community coh does. And no other game has a Nemesis plot like CoH does.
Regardless, when the lights go out, NCSoft will go down. The other games do not compare and are simply the "same old ****" in which I think people should chance towards NCSoft
"Same old ****!" "Same old ****"
The life is superpowered MMOs is about to die with the one that started it all.
Now it's all on to fantasy lore.
This wont end well for them. So that is at least a little bit of good news.
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