I just paid a year sub on July 17th. I want my money back for post-Nov 30. Not credit for another NCSoft POS game.
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Originally Posted by Steele_Magnolia
I just paid a year sub on July 17th. I want my money back for post-Nov 30. Not credit for another NCSoft POS game.
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You know, I was on the fence as to whether or not to buy Guild Wars 2... this news just pushed me to the "no and never will" side. I'm done with NCSoft.
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No, I won't boycot NC Soft. I have no intention of ever playing one of their games again, but that is my personal peeve and I don't think that pet peeves are a ground for a player wide boycot.
My VIP status lapsed in July. On the one hand, I'm glad I didn't renew for another year this time around. On the other hand, I'm sad to see it all go.
COH is my favorite PC game of all time (second favorite game of all time running close behind Xenogears for PS1). I haven't been playing (or posting) nearly as actively as I have in the past thanks to other interests and commitments popping up. I'm running a league for Magic: the Gathering, I'm writing a couple fanfics, and now that I'm back in my home town I can get to game night with my friends each week. Still, I love COH.
A boycott, however, does no good for any of us. All it's going to achieve (if it does achieve anything) is shutdown of other games that don't deserve it, just like COH doesn't deserve a shutdown in our eyes. Do the people who love Aion of GW/GW2 deserve the carpet yanked out from under their feet like it has been done to us? No! Do the developers of other NCSoft-published games deserve to be forced to switch companies and move their families across the country? No! So don't avoid paying NCSoft money for the sole reason that it's NCSoft who's publishing the title. Buy games that you think are worth playing. I prepurchased GW2, and I'm enjoying it in the little free time I've got. (lv12 thief and lv7 mesmer, yay altitis!)
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I'll be boycotting. NC has nothing else that interests me, and I won't reward a company for pulling such a collossal d*** move as they have done to such an awesome community of devs and players.
I spent a buttload of money on paragon points, even buying the $100 pack to put myself up to T9 VIP when it went live, so I could have that awesome celestial set of armor. And that wasn't the only time I spent money on points either. That's all money that NC won't be seeing any more of, for any of their games.
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Originally Posted by Sylph_Knight
Regarding the Cryptic -> Atari -> Perfect World discussion: after Cryptic split from NCSoft they were developing Champions Online when the company was bought out by Atari, and later after CO launched were bought out by Chinese publisher Perfect World Entertainment. This is where the PW raising the Game Engine license fee to an unsustainable value theory comes into play. This is a perfectly reasonable possibility.
Alternatively, it has been brought up that a shuffle in management could have changed the company's perspective on dealing with the CoX IP, which would put the fault squarely on NCSoft's shoulders. I also believe this theory also holds water because I've seen it happen within the Anime Industry first hand and the decision is more about someone's personal preference than actual marketability. Companies would like everyone to think they are intelligently operated, but oftentimes there is much wasting to be found and decisions are pushed so someone can creep further along the corporate ladder via short-term gains at the cost of long-term benefits to the company itself. Finally, as mentioned, Nexon now has a controlling interest in NCSoft's stock. However, their influence in shutting down CoX seems far less credible given they do not have a competitive product of the same theme/genre. |
First, there's the whole "5-year license" thing for which there is absolutely ZERO evidence. And now, you claim that Nexon has controlling interest in NCSoft, which is also not true. Nexon IS the largest single outside shareholder of NCSoft stock, but their total ownership only comes to 14.7% (notice the link to a source).
Seriously, you're normally awesome. But please stop saying unfounded or factually incorrect things as is they were fact; all it does is rile up people.
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A boycott out of spite, no, I agree. A boycott because NCsoft has yet to field (and not instantly shut down) a decent game in years, however, benefits me quite a bit because I get to save a lot of money I might have otherwise spent on Guild Wars 2 under pressure from a friend of mine to play a game I genuinely do not like. Instead, I can spend that on Tera or World of Tanks or... I don't know, a new Lego set. Or maybe a new hat. My old Camel Trophy hat went limp.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
A boycott, however, does no good for any of us.
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Point is, a lot of what you're seeing as a call for "Boycott!" has to do with NCsoft not endearing themselves to many City of Heroes players with their products to begin with. It's why I try to not say I'll be boycotting anything, since I wasn't going to be buying anything from them anyway. By the same token, I'm also boycotting the Bank of America by living in Europe.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Well, that's my point. Don't buy things if you don't want them... but don't not buy things just because of who made them.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
A boycott out of spite, no, I agree. A boycott because NCsoft has yet to field (and not instantly shut down) a decent game in years, however, benefits me quite a bit because I get to save a lot of money I might have otherwise spent on Guild Wars 2 under pressure from a friend of mine to play a game I genuinely do not like. Instead, I can spend that on Tera or World of Tanks or... I don't know, a new Lego set. Or maybe a new hat. My old Camel Trophy hat went limp.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
A boycott out of spite, no, I agree. A boycott because NCsoft has yet to field (and not instantly shut down) a decent game in years, however, benefits me quite a bit because I get to save a lot of money I might have otherwise spent on Guild Wars 2 under pressure from a friend of mine to play a game I genuinely do not like. Instead, I can spend that on Tera or World of Tanks or... I don't know, a new Lego set. Or maybe a new hat. My old Camel Trophy hat went limp.
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Though in my case, my vow to never play another NCSoft title has a lot to do with the fact that NCSoft develops and discards MMOs so handily, and sometimes takes very nasty means to ensure it happens. And unlike a game studio that develops single-player offline games, or online games that don't depend on servers or networks owned by the studio or publisher, once the game is gone, it's gone. You can't blow the dust off of it later on down the line and play it again.
"All good things must come to an end," sure, but there's MMOs out there which are older than City of Heroes that are still alive, and don't have nearly as many people playing them. City of Heroes, to the best of my knowledge, was at least providing a measure of revenue to offset its own development and maintenance costs.
Anyway, my point is ... even if NCSoft continues to publish games that look fun and interesting to me, why should I put any more money on their titles when they've demonstrated such a willingness to kill them off, often just a few years after launching them? There's other things worth my time and money that won't just up and vanish abruptly as a cost-cutting measure by the parent company.
People invest a lot into the characters, communities, and worlds of games like this, enough that I have to wonder if what Jason Scott said at the time AOL Hometown went down could apply to MMOs and (especially) virtual worlds like Second Life.
I am in. I will boycott them. I have already thrown my Guild Wars disc in the trash.
I say SCREW NCSOFT. Boycott the hell outta them. They let a whole connunity of mmo...LOYAL mmo players down and killed a game that was making them money. why? bc their crappy GW2 lost them like 6 million. So they kill the WRONG project. Screw NCsoft and screw their products.
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I had played GW1 and One of this Add-Ons and TR.
Maybe i had buy GW2. But not now, after that all.
I will never spend 1 more Cent for this Company.
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Normally such threads get removed pronto. Seriously, you think a thread like that would be left around be our mods? Of course not! For one, you're talking about an outside game... secondly, you're asking if they're involved with killing another game... thirdly, I'm fairly certain their mods would have no clue either way anyways. It's not like PWE executives are the ones that personally moderate the forums!|
Originally Posted by Arson_NA
I've already taken the liberty of confronting them on the STO forums over it and the thread never got deleted. Normally if it is true and they have something to hide, such threads get removed pronto. Of course, situation could change, I was expecting a ticking off from the STO mods over it.
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At this point, all the calls for boycotts are just knee-jerk reactionary. We don't have any real information. We have lots of suggestions (even one by BaBs saying he wasn't aware of such a situation, but would ask Jack), but no definitive information. Starting a campaign to boycott NCSoft might also hurt any efforts to save CoH, which certainly isn't a good thing...
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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After what they (NCsoft HQ) have done, they can burn for all I care.
They wont ever be getting another cent out of me.
(unless of course by some miracle they either (a) salvage CoH to be played again or (b) are releasing a CoH2 with a NA team).
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I was thrilled with the Science pack cuz I finally got payback on the creepy guy that kept trying to ERP with my tween heroine, by hitting the costume change and turning into a 10' tall monstrous escaped prisoner and telling him, "You gots a real purty mouf, now bendover and squeal like a pig fo yo daddy, cuz you my little puppy now!" Haven't seen him since.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Well, that's my point. Don't buy things if you don't want them... but don't not buy things just because of who made them.
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Originally Posted by Mutallis
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I really wanted to play GW2, but now im a little afraid what may happen in the future. I think some of us are a little angry with all of this, maybe cause we just bought some stuff or have paid for annual subscription, last weekend i bought about 100usd in points in the shop to get some cool stuff for my toon, and after a few days this happens.
I think most of us, should make a petition for at least get our money back, there's a petition to keep the game on (this wont work at all), but maybe a petition to pay us back the money we've used before knowing the consequences.
About the money back issue, not saying the whole ammount paid for years, just what we've paid from one month back to yesterday and sure, the subscriptions, what happens for those who already paid for the year, running the game till november and saying the subscription is valid is not a option, who wanna pay for a game which will cease operations, i dont even want to play it anymore. Was having fun doing my first MM, and boom, that happen, after all those mag farms just to get hybrid, this happens as well.
But again, let us do at least a petition to get our money back (subscriptions and money spent in shop from 1st august to now).