Water Blast - Dehydrate Power
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2012-08-22 08:32 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
No thank you. On the toons that I have this powerset on, I need the HP much more than I need the endurance.
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It should do both...
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
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I strongly feel, and have always felt, that they should add a "water" bar below your endurance. The more water you have the less thirsty you are, etc. With the introduction of water blast it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness. The ironically-named dehydrate power is just one more way in which the devs are slapping us in the face.
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So... do you pee in your costume if the water bar gets too full?
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
I strongly feel, and have always felt, that they should add a "water" bar below your endurance. The more water you have the less thirsty you are, etc. With the introduction of water blast it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness. The ironically-named dehydrate power is just one more way in which the devs are slapping us in the face.
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Unfortunately do to the way the game mechanics work given a choice of hp vs hp/end or end people would choose hp because sucking endurance really does not stop the enemy attacks even when they look dry.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
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I like the HP mechanic just fine, and would be a lot more interested in a discussion of an optimum 6 slot strategy for the power (anybody got a link to that?) Changes to this power now probably have a % chance of zero, at least for a very long time. That would have been a Beta thing I'm thinking.
As for wetness-dryness and/or thirstyness, that should be added when we get hungeryness and/or fullness-emptyness.
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I don't know, but you have given me an awesome idea for using the bubbles path aura for an "after-I-die" costume switch.
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Originally Posted by MikeRobe
So... do you pee in your costume if the water bar gets too full?
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Does Dehydrate accept Accurate Healing sets? If so, you could slot the Touch of the Nictus proc for a chance for +End to yourself. You still won't drain End from foes, but as was already mentioned, draining NPC's End is pointless unless you can also stop their Recovery.
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Originally Posted by Diamond
I'm not sure if this have been discussed before or not; But- Wouldn't it made more sense if the Dehydrate Power from Water Blast pool drained the endurance of mobs and recovered ours overtime instead of HP? Where is the creativity of credibility when it comes to a "WATER" power pool? Anyway, just random thought, was bored and posted it here. I would like to see what others think about this?
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@Roderick
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Agree totally. I think I said the exact same thing to a friend, about 5 mins after I first got the power. Not that having a heal isn't great..but to me, it makes more sense (and would be more unique) with a proper end drain.
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Originally Posted by Diamond
I'm not sure if this have been discussed before or not; But- Wouldn't it made more sense if the Dehydrate Power from Water Blast pool drained the endurance of mobs and recovered ours overtime instead of HP? Where is the creativity of credibility when it comes to a "WATER" power pool? Anyway, just random thought, was bored and posted it here. I would like to see what others think about this?
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Hands OFF my Dehydrate heal.
JK, but slightly more seriously, I don't think it makes much more sense to drain/restore endurance with it than to restore health. And it would almost certainly be a less useful power.
Well..maybe less useful in some cases. Ie, a water dark isnt going to miss the heal much, and im sure would like a +end power every 8 seconds.
And of course it makes more sense..water..blue..end mod..blue!
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I think either Health or End is conceptually valid. But on balance, at least for organics, health makes more sense. We're mostly water after all. Sure sucking it out of someone is going to make them tired....BECAUSE THEY'RE DYING! |
Originally Posted by Diamond
I'm not sure if this have been discussed before or not; But- Wouldn't it made more sense if the Dehydrate Power from Water Blast pool drained the endurance of mobs and recovered ours overtime instead of HP? Where is the creativity of credibility when it comes to a "WATER" power pool? Anyway, just random thought, was bored and posted it here. I would like to see what others think about this?
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But the tired is more a side-effect of the health loss than the main event.
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According to MIDS, Dehydrate does accept Accurate Healing Sets.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
Does Dehydrate accept Accurate Healing sets? If so, you could slot the Touch of the Nictus proc for a chance for +End to yourself. You still won't drain End from foes, but as was already mentioned, draining NPC's End is pointless unless you can also stop their Recovery.
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I think either Health or Endurance drain make sense conceptually. I am happy with the health syphon, it has saved my bacon more than a few times.
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Everybody needs to take a drink!
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
I strongly feel, and have always felt, that they should add a "water" bar below your endurance. The more water you have the less thirsty you are, etc. With the introduction of water blast it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness. The ironically-named dehydrate power is just one more way in which the devs are slapping us in the face.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
I strongly feel, and have always felt, that they should add a "water" bar below your endurance. The more water you have the less thirsty you are, etc. With the introduction of water blast it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness. The ironically-named dehydrate power is just one more way in which the devs are slapping us in the face.
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At one point in Beta, Dehydrate was only a Tidal Builder, and didn't consume Tidal power if you had 3 stacks. Then Synapse altered it so that if you had 3 stacks it would consume those and get a 50% better heal.|
Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
It should do both...
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I kinda wish that instead of a 50% better heal, the "Tidal" effect had been an end recovery of some type (+Recovery, EoT, etc.) in addition to its standard HoT. I admittedly didn't think of that until Water Blast was "done" testing though, so I never suggested it.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
However not impressed by Water Blast overall performance in term of ST damage or side utility, I was really happy with the heal part. You can fix endurance at somepoint, you cannot always fix hp loss. If it was recovery I would probably had kicked it out my build after I got Transferance for exemple, but the heal really is usefull, even with other ways to heal yourself and of course even more for those without healing tools.
I'm not sure if this have been discussed before or not; But- Wouldn't it made more sense if the Dehydrate Power from Water Blast pool drained the endurance of mobs and recovered ours overtime instead of HP? Where is the creativity of credibility when it comes to a "WATER" power pool? Anyway, just random thought, was bored and posted it here. I would like to see what others think about this?