Bill and Ted 3......please no.
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Posted on: 2012-08-10 21:42 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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To be fair, the last Resident Evil movie that came out a couple years back had some of THE BEST cinematography (and definitely the best live-action 3D) of any movie I've ever seen. Plot/action/story-wise, it was better than parts 2 and 3 by a pretty wide margin, but still not as good as the original.|
Originally Posted by Freitag
We keep going to sequels (like Resident Evil), and so the films keep making money, and the studios keep making more of the same.
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That said: while I'm cautiously optimistic about the new one, I don't expect it to be as good as 4, and definitely not as good as the first one.
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Now, as far as the people complaining about the impending Bill & Ted sequel, an interview with Keanu Reeves a year or so back actually made the movie sound appealing to me. Apparently, the premise he wants to go with is that Bill & Ted never managed to change the world, faded into obscurity and are rapidly approaching their mid-life crises. I think there's a lot they can do with that, and I'm actually looking forward to the sequel.
I'm only sorry that the late, great George Carlin won't be able to reprise his role as Rufus (though a part of me hopes they do something like a CGI hologram Rufus, as long as they don't overdo it).
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As someone who enjoyed all the RE movies, I agree #1 has felt the best of them all. But that could be because I think it felt more like the game than the others.|
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
To be fair, the last Resident Evil movie that came out a couple years back had some of THE BEST cinematography (and definitely the best live-action 3D) of any movie I've ever seen. Plot/action/story-wise, it was better than parts 2 and 3 by a pretty wide margin, but still not as good as the original.
That said: while I'm cautiously optimistic about the new one, I don't expect it to be as good as 4, and definitely not as good as the first one. ----- Now, as far as the people complaining about the impending Bill & Ted sequel, an interview with Keanu Reeves a year or so back actually made the movie sound appealing to me. Apparently, the premise he wants to go with is that Bill & Ted never managed to change the world, faded into obscurity and are rapidly approaching their mid-life crises. I think there's a lot they can do with that, and I'm actually looking forward to the sequel. I'm only sorry that the late, great George Carlin won't be able to reprise his role as Rufus (though a part of me hopes they do something like a CGI hologram Rufus, as long as they don't overdo it). |
The rest, while I quite enjoy them, seemed to take what sold well to the more general audience (ie...not the RE game fans, who likely didnt even go to the movie
) and capatilized on it.Like I keep saying. RE isn't a horror series. RE is a an action series with special effect ugly looking bad guys.
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Let's not forget 'Star Trek:The Motion Picture', followed by 'The Wrath of Khan'. The first film was an atrocity. The second was one of the best Star Trek films. That's a series that has been really hit or miss. Some of the films were truly awful and some were great.
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Originally Posted by Freitag
I certainly understand the desire to make money, and have consistent cash flow coming in. This is a consistent issue across various forms of entertainment. I will have to courteously disagree with you on the Mission Impossible series
, but the Bourne series is a pretty good example. Terminator 2 vs Terminator 1 is also a pretty classic example of a series that got better with the second film. |
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TMP was just boring. Period |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Let's not forget 'Star Trek:The Motion Picture', followed by 'The Wrath of Khan'. The first film was an atrocity. The second was one of the best Star Trek films. That's a series that has been really hit or miss. Some of the films were truly awful and some were great.
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The problem (imo) with the Trek Movie series, is a lot of times, they made the movies feel less like a movie and more like an extended TV Episode (TNG Movies fell into this a lot).
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Well, yeah. Trek isn't movie material. I've always said that. It's only that the movies are made with well established characters, so the exploration of those characters isn't needed, just the story.
And... well... yeah, Trek is just not movie material. Sure, you can do a ST:TWOK, and use a popular dual edge sword story of whales/downfall of communism in ST:TVH, but you have ST:TMP and ST:TFF as your undulations.
To be honest, I liked them all. Even Enterprise. Even the 5th Trek movie, as awful as it was. It was still a good Trek story, mostly. Just... really badly told/shown. The scene with McCoy facing his worst human moment? That was *powerful*, and DeForest sold that scene well, IMO. I would suppose that, if they'd done it, Kirk's would be... either a montage, or Edith's death maybe.
But I'm a Trekkie. I see the story and like it for what it is: A Trek episode, drawn out a little, but still Trek, still the characters I am fond of, and there was more to their lives than before. Yay. 
The director's cut of TMP is way better than the other versions, and is worth seeing if you haven't. The second half is MUCH improved.
But it's still a long episode with better effects. Use a DVD or something and skip forward past the boring bits. 
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That's what I'd heard too, and it sounds like a really intriguing premise. On the other hand, it's going to be hard to milk a premise that bleak for B&T-style comedy. Still, I'm cautiously... um, curious, at least. |
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Now, as far as the people complaining about the impending Bill & Ted sequel, an interview with Keanu Reeves a year or so back actually made the movie sound appealing to me. Apparently, the premise he wants to go with is that Bill & Ted never managed to change the world, faded into obscurity and are rapidly approaching their mid-life crises. I think there's a lot they can do with that, and I'm actually looking forward to the sequel.
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I'm just astounded that no one's pointed out the Oscar potential of such a film.
Keanu Reeves starring in the role he was born to play.
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Oh yes, the rule of Evens, which I believe Star Trek 2011 broke? I think?|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Let's not forget 'Star Trek:The Motion Picture', followed by 'The Wrath of Khan'. The first film was an atrocity. The second was one of the best Star Trek films. That's a series that has been really hit or miss. Some of the films were truly awful and some were great.
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For a great many years, the "Rule of Star Trek" could be shown quite clearly by "correctly" numbering the Star Trek movies like so:
TMP
Two
Two-and-a-half
Four
*Point Five*
Six
I still remember the days of Shatner talking up his film before it was released, with the ad campaign being "Star Trek V: why they're putting seat belts in movie theaters!" ... only to watch half the audience walk out of the movie it was so bad (presumably those "seat belts" were restraints to *prevent* people from leaving in disgust before the movie ended).
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I've read the rule of Even number Star Trek movies still works if you include Galaxy Quest in the mix.
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Originally Posted by Freitag
Oh yes, the rule of Evens, which I believe Star Trek 2011 broke? I think?
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This news is most excellent. The movie could turn out to be either heinous or totally bodacious. I look forward to finding out which. Using numerology to predict sequel quality before the movie has even been made is bogus.
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How the pancake does Michael Bay keep getting work? Really? He has the freakin' touch of death on movies. I can literally count on one hand how many of his films I'd consider actually enjoyable...
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Yeah, re-makes can be a good thing. Like the Amazing Spiderman, which was much better than the old Spiderman movie. Quite possibly because it didn't have Toby 'One Face' Maguire in it...|
Originally Posted by Freitag
I like Keanu Reeves a lot, but all this sequel & remake business is getting a bit frustrating. I feel like there are many interesting stories out there that could be told, and it's unnecessary to just regurgitate the same stuff over and over :-).
That being said, sequels can be done well, it just seems that they frequently, well, aren't. It surprises me that actors want to do sequels. I guess it's better to want to do one than to be contractually obligated, but not want to do one. ~Freitag |
But......eeeugh....Hollywood is more stagnant than a mouldy swamp in a bad B movie now...
Still not as bad as Bayformers 4 will be, though ¬¬
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How the pancake does Michael Bay keep getting work? Really? He has the freakin' touch of death on movies. I can literally count on one hand how many of his films I'd consider actually enjoyable... |
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There has been talk of Spielberg possibly taking it over. *crosses fingers*
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Yeah, re-makes can be a good thing. Like the Amazing Spiderman, which was much better than the old Spiderman movie. Quite possibly because it didn't have Toby 'One Face' Maguire in it...
But......eeeugh....Hollywood is more stagnant than a mouldy swamp in a bad B movie now... Still not as bad as Bayformers 4 will be, though ¬¬ |
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I honestly went i wanting ti hate the spiderman movie if for nothing else to it would revert back to marvel. I have to say was blown away was well done and i truly liked the spiderman in this he did not come off as a wimpy idiot. Was done well and did not have to listen to Tobey Maguire talk or try and act. And starting with lizard was great it did stray from the comic a bit here and there but i really did not mind the up date on the stuff. Unlike the samtastrophic that was the first try at doing spiderman
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I've read the rule of Even number Star Trek movies still works if you include Galaxy Quest in the mix.
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I'd say a lot of sequals aren't done as well because they're usually made to bank of the first movies success, rather than be good. Though I think many are learning they can't get away with that easily.
Bourne series for instance, I'd say is about equal quality amongst all it's sequals. Mission Impossible (imo of course) has only gotten better with every sequal.
But then you get those sequals that arent being put out because of a great story, but because they think they can get some money out of it.
But I also wouldn't put all the blame on hollywood for it. Sometimes it is the directors/actors fault. The greatest script int he world can't be saved by directors who can't direct and actors who just aren't that good or just phone it in.
But I think that we the viewers are at fault to some extent as well. We keep going to sequels (like Resident Evil), and so the films keep making money, and the studios keep making more of the same. I'm probably just being grouchy. Ultimately people should watch what they want, and if it makes money, why shouldn't the producer make more? I just wish that those budgets went into making films with newly acquired IP's, but I understand that those are risky.
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