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There's a little bit more Angel info here:

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Angels

The few bits of text they say are quite interesting regarding who they might be talking about.
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Interesting never knew about those.
I wonder what the story behind them could be. The Mercy Angels sound as vicious as the Vengeance ones.


 

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Would be interesting to fight some angels. Nice change of pace. I think black and/or grey has been used on 98% of new enemies.


 

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Would be interesting to fight some angels. Nice change of pace. I think black and/or grey has been used on 98% of new enemies.
It'll be funny if they're Battalion.


 

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It'll be funny if they're Battalion.
That would be awesome, but by them saying "the heretics have come here" I assume Night Ward is their natural home.

But if they ARE the battalion, that'd be great. We've fought enough demons, bring on the angels.


 

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Well the obvious way to simulate an area with no gravity would be to have a zone-wide power that buffs flight speed while providing a very heavy run speed and jump speed/height debuff with no visuals. That way characters can maneuver freely in three dimensions without needing flight but won't be able to cheat and run around on the "ground". Of course such a zone would really, really suck for certain powersets such as Traps and Earth Control.

Of course if you wanted maximum realism you could just apply the debuff portions of it and make characters buy a Raptor Pack .
What about the swim under arches in those Cimeroran maps? Only default us to fly positions instead of swimming ones? Can you plant traps and use earth control while swimming under the arches?


 

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Sounds like Celestial War II is abrewing.
They've been hinting at it with Prometheus and the Empyrean and Astral merit vendors, as well as the contact in Dark Astoria too, haven't they?


 

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Are there other I24 teaser pics? If so, link please, and where are these coming from?



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Who are the angelic figures seen around Night Ward?
Battalion scouts.

Also: Vorlons.


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But if they ARE the battalion, that'd be great. We've fought enough demons, bring on the angels.
No thanks. I'd rather fight some legit supervillains than make this into a war between heaven and hell, or heaven and aliens, or heaven and whatever else.

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Are there other I24 teaser pics? If so, link please, and where are these coming from?
There are, but I don't have the links on me. The devs have posted three so far, this being the third, on their Facebook and Twitter accounts. One featured alternate color for Superspeed and Hasten on a character wearing Bodysuit, and the second had Marauder, Prae Aurora, and Pendragon chillin' in AP.


 

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Well I'd assume its not literally heaven, CoH tends to avoid direct references to modern religions. Just a case of sufficiently advanced technology blah blah. I'm sure they have some sort of mastermind behind them.

I'm also sure that something will become of them. They're far too interesting to ignore.


 

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No thanks. I'd rather fight some legit supervillains than make this into a war between heaven and hell, or heaven and aliens, or heaven and whatever else.
I have nothing against fighting Angelic types, but please let the Battalion be some legit supervillain types that are not the angel guys we've seen scattered about.

Mostly because we've already seen them. Y'know? Oh look, another angel.

Let's hope for something new for the Battalion.


 

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It's already been established that a war with the Battalion is a war against heaven.

The Rikti. They defeated the Battalion in the distant past, and as a consequence have no gods and no magic.

Oh, an Chekhov's Gun. It's far more dramatic to have a big reveal about something you thought was just part of the scenery than to bring in something with no established background and lore out of the blue.


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It's already been established that a war with the Battalion is a war against heaven.

The Rikti. They defeated the Battalion in the distant past, and as a consequence have no gods and no magic.

Oh, an Chekhov's Gun. It's far more dramatic to have a big reveal about something you thought was just part of the scenery than to bring in something with no established background and lore out of the blue.
Please let it be space pirates.


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Well I'd assume its not literally heaven, CoH tends to avoid direct references to modern religions. Just a case of sufficiently advanced technology blah blah. I'm sure they have some sort of mastermind behind them.

I'm also sure that something will become of them. They're far too interesting to ignore.
I was hoping it would turn out to be something like YHVH from the Shin Megami Tensei series. Now THAT would be awesome.


 

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I have nothing against fighting Angelic types, but please let the Battalion be some legit supervillain types that are not the angel guys we've seen scattered about.

Mostly because we've already seen them. Y'know? Oh look, another angel.

Let's hope for something new for the Battalion.
No, they were atheistic long before Battalion's attack.


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It's already been established that a war with the Battalion is a war against heaven.

The Rikti. They defeated the Battalion in the distant past, and as a consequence have no gods and no magic.

Oh, an Chekhov's Gun. It's far more dramatic to have a big reveal about something you thought was just part of the scenery than to bring in something with no established background and lore out of the blue.
Your sequence of events is very off and your conclusions contradict current canon. So, no.


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It's already been established that a war with the Battalion is a war against heaven.
Where was this established?


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It's already been established that a war with the Battalion is a war against heaven.

The Rikti. They defeated the Battalion in the distant past, and as a consequence have no gods and no magic.
The Rikti didn't lose their gods or magic because they defeated the Battalion. The Rikti defeated the Battalion because they didn't believe in gods or magic in the first place. They didn't have that as a potential weakness, and relied on their superior science and technology to get the job done once they were invaded.


 

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The Rikti didn't lose their gods or magic because they defeated the Battalion. The Rikti defeated the Battalion because they didn't believe in gods or magic in the first place. They didn't have that as a potential weakness, and relied on their superior science and technology to get the job done once they were invaded.
I don't know where you are getting your info, but it's incorrect. The Rikti come from a parallel Earth, so thousands of years ago they didn't have superior science and technology any more than primal Earth did.

The Battalion draw their power from the Well (or more accurately, multiple wells across different worlds and dimensions). By destroying their Well, they cut off the Battalion's source of power, and thus defeated them.

Since gods and magic also draw their power from the Well, destroying the Well also destroyed all gods. Rikti can believe what they like, it won't make a god spring into existence. Just as on Primal Earth, gods continue to exist, even when no one believes in them. The Well is their core source of power, belief is just extra fuel.

Without magic, the Rikti where forced to depend more on Science and Technology, and this is what caused them to advance faster than Primal Earth.

The Battalion visit planets in the guise of heavenly messengers, promoting belief and magic, and undermining science. This causes the Well to gather more power. When the well is "ripe" they return to the planet and harvest the power.


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Yes, but even before the Battalion came the Rikti already didn't believe in gods. The gods may or may not have existed in their world, but the rikti relied on technology rather than magic long before the Battalion showed up.


 

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...you also realize the well is empowered by advanced tech and science as well as magic right? The well works off raw potential regardless of the form it takes.

And you can't destroy a race's well without turning that race into a hollowed out shell of itself.


 

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Yes, but even before the Battalion came the Rikti already didn't believe in gods. The gods may or may not have existed in their world, but the rikti relied on technology rather than magic long before the Battalion showed up.
Which is why they where willing to destroy their well, when it would have been unthinkable to a theistic race.


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...you also realize the well is empowered by advanced tech and science as well as magic right? The well works off raw potential regardless of the form it takes.

And you can't destroy a race's well without turning that race into a hollowed out shell of itself.
That's what they (the Battalion) want you to think...

Rule 1: Prometheus lies.


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