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And you're running with a great team, but you suddenly realize that nearly all (if not all) of your S.O.'s are RED!

What do you do? make the team wait so you can go through the tedious process of running to a vendor to buy and then slot all those S.O.'s? Just carry on like you're all good and enter the next mish, contributing...nothing? next to nothing?

How about a button in the enhancement screen, labeled, I dunno. UPGRADE? That when you click it, you get a pop up message that reads "WARNING: You are about to upgrade all of your S.O. enhancements to +2 your level. If you click OK, you will be charged 2938423 Inf. for the cost of the enhancements."

The cost being what you would have to pay had you bought the S.O.'s from a vendor.

I personally would love this, but maybe I'm alone, or missing something big.

It should only work for S.O.'s in my opinion, as D.O.'s are outleveled so quickly these days, and I.O.'s are just too big a part of the player economy.


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Oh dear god, yes, YES! /Signed! Re-slotting SOs every few levels is one of the biggest remaining un-fun faffs of the game as it is right now.


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I can not support this idea enough. Seriously. It might have to have a slightly higher price then just buying the enhancements, though.


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I can not support this idea enough. Seriously. It might have to have a slightly higher price then just buying the enhancements, though.
true, I certainly wouldn't complain about that


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Funny enough, my wife avoids this problem by slotting lvl 15 Generic IO's after she gets to level 12, then upgrading them when she has time/inclination. Her IOs never go red. (And no, she doesn't stay with the lvl 15 IOs till shes 25+. She usually tries to upgrade every 5 levels or so, using her main to craft them.)

I, on the other hand, wouldn't be opposed to this idea.


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Ehhh, this is no big deal. So you hit level 27 and are weak for a few missions. At level 17-21 you are weak also. It not to much work to fly to a SO store, it only takes about 15 minutes slotting. I don't see it as not fun. Now,what would be nice is to sell your slotted DOs at level 22 for extra cash.


 

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I encountered this problem when I first started playing years ago. You can get caught out but I have the courtesy, when teaming, to slot well before I join a one and leave as soon as I turn a few reds so I can re-slot. No good for the hurried though as they want it nao. Well pay a PL'er if that is the case, slot IO's at 47 and never be under powered.

Often a team will not mind if you just want to slot a few things but I prefer to re-slot for a given level range as I am never in a hurry to get the game over with as soon as possible; I enjoy it too much.


 

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It not to much work to fly to a SO store, it only takes about 15 minutes slotting.
Yes, but the OP is saying, that's fifteen minutes that you're asking the team you're on to wait - or having to drop team. Not good.


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I encountered this problem when I first started playing years ago. You can get caught out but I have the courtesy, when teaming, to slot well before I join a one and leave as soon as I turn a few reds so I can re-slot. No good for the hurried though as they want it nao. Well pay a PL'er if that is the case, slot IO's at 47 and never be under powered.

Often a team will not mind if you just want to slot a few things but I prefer to re-slot for a given level range as I am never in a hurry to get the game over with as soon as possible; I enjoy it too much.


I've had my enhancements dump to all red at level 45 ( i don't IO until 50, my choice) in the middle of a tf. My bad? yes. Am I the only one this has happened to? i'm gonna go on a limb and say no.

A quick fix to this problem? Yes plz.


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I can not support this idea enough. Seriously. It might have to have a slightly higher price then just buying the enhancements, though.
Why? It's not a gameplay balance or 'challenge' to run and re-slot the entire damn build. It's just long, boring and nothing at all to do with punching goons in the face. i.e. un-fun. i.e. not something the game should focus on. QoL is about fixing the boring stuff to focus on the good stuff, and this is a worthy cause if ever there was one, second only to respecs.


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I'm all for this.

To be honest, I don't even slot any TOs/SOs until I'm lvl 22. Then I go to my SG base bin and slot my lvl 25 common IOs waiting for me!

*I'm exaggerating a bit because I do slot some SOs that I get from DFB/DIB runs but in general I don't go out of my way to slot since usually getting to 22 isn't too hard/slow*

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Why? It's not a gameplay balance or 'challenge' to run and re-slot the entire damn build. It's just long, boring and nothing at all to do with punching goons in the face. i.e. un-fun. i.e. not something the game should focus on. QoL is about fixing the boring stuff to focus on the good stuff, and this is a worthy cause if ever there was one, second only to respecs.

You always pay more for convenience...it's one of those things.

I would say add a 5 or 10% 'fee' on top of the cost of all the SOs and it'd still be used often enough.


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I'd honestly rather go even a step further than this idea. Sell SO quality enhancements that automatically level up with you, like the other attuned enhancements, and just get rid of the TO/DO/SO drops entirely.

Having to 're-equip' every few levels might have made sense prior to the auction house system that we currently have. It was the only meaningful way to remove inf from the economy. Now, there are so many more and potent methods to do this that buying enhancements periodically is basically meaningless.

Just let us buy attuned versions once and only ever have to worry about maybe 1-3 purchases at any one time when slots open up.


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I am 100% for this suggestion.

I'm also 100% for the idea of it costing a little (10, maybe 20% more is best, I think, though I'd actually be fine with fully one-third more) than it would at a store, just to keep the stores around as a viable option for something other than selling unwanted drops. Plus, those stores are a time sink (good from the devs' perspective), and anything that removes a little inf bloat from the game's ever-swelling economy is a good thing as I see it.

Besides, I doubt a lot of us would even notice that hit. How many people honestly remember off the top of their head which stores are best to sell enhancement drops to, or which ones sell specific enhancements the cheapest? And how many actually bother to travel to those specific stores to do it instead of just going to the closest one that has what they need?


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If you run nothing but DFB, you will get to upgrade your enhancements as you go so that you don't have to worry about this kind of problem.

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If you run nothing but DFB, you will get to upgrade your enhancements as you go so that you don't have to worry about this kind of problem.

(Ducks)
Yes, I never have the problem because of this.


 

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It's just long, boring and nothing at all to do with punching goons in the face. i.e. un-fun. i.e. not something the game should focus on. QoL is about fixing the boring stuff

Yeah they should fix the boring stuff, starting with incarnates stuff. That thing is way worst the slotting the SOs, I rather do the SO then do the incarnates, The incarnates are long, boring. I mean what the point of it, being level 53 fighting 53s is the same as fighting level 50s at level 50? Also it cost 25 million inf to get the Alpha 3rd buff. Way to much work.

Also the IOs they are also un fun, I rather have 50++ SOs then grind IOs/Inf to buy them.


 

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I'd honestly rather go even a step further than this idea. Sell SO quality enhancements that automatically level up with you, like the other attuned enhancements, and just get rid of the TO/DO/SO drops entirely.

Having to 're-equip' every few levels might have made sense prior to the auction house system that we currently have. It was the only meaningful way to remove inf from the economy. Now, there are so many more and potent methods to do this that buying enhancements periodically is basically meaningless.

Just let us buy attuned versions once and only ever have to worry about maybe 1-3 purchases at any one time when slots open up.
I love this idea. Dump the whole TO/DO/SO mess and give us ASOs from the start.


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Yeah, this needs fixing. I'd say its possible to say start a task force late at 26 (with level 25 SOs) and hit 29 (when they expire) if you're running at +2.

Instead of expiring completely, have SO's remain at +23.3% indefinitely (and DO's stay at half that or whatever they are).

The early game DO to SO balance seems about right, what with all the other factors like Beginner's Luck and ramping up of AT modifiers.

I remember the first time this happened to me, and I was puzzled as to why levelling up made me move so slowly - back in the days of 3 slotting Hover.


 

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Yeah, this needs fixing. I'd say its possible to say start a task force late at 26 (with level 25 SOs) and hit 29 (when they expire) if you're running at +2.

Instead of expiring completely, have SO's remain at +23.3% indefinitely (and DO's stay at half that or whatever they are).

The early game DO to SO balance seems about right, what with all the other factors like Beginner's Luck and ramping up of AT modifiers.

I remember the first time this happened to me, and I was puzzled as to why levelling up made me move so slowly - back in the days of 3 slotting Hover.
The game already has a solution for this called basic IO's. You can slot them and they never expire.


 

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I haven't ran into this problem in a verrrry long time. Like most people I slot Generic IOs at level 25...and carry a few that I know I will need for when I level up and gain new powers/slots.

So while I would not use this feature... I do support it.


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I'd like it to change so that regular enhancements never expire, personally. Getting relatively weaker when you level up is a facet of the game that's never made sense. The existence of basic IOs doesn't make it any more sensible - rather, it highlights the nonsense.


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The game already has a solution for this called basic IO's. You can slot them and they never expire.
Or, depending on your outlook, they expire as often as once a month until you complete reward tier 7.


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Yeah they should fix the boring stuff, starting with incarnates stuff. That thing is way worst the slotting the SOs, I rather do the SO then do the incarnates, The incarnates are long, boring. I mean what the point of it, being level 53 fighting 53s is the same as fighting level 50s at level 50? Also it cost 25 million inf to get the Alpha 3rd buff. Way to much work.

Also the IOs they are also un fun, I rather have 50++ SOs then grind IOs/Inf to buy them.
Yes, because actual in-game combat and content is EXACTLY the same as a tedious meta-game system that has to be re-done very few levels.

Your analogy is bad, and you should feel bad.


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I'd like it to change so that regular enhancements never expire, personally. Getting relatively weaker when you level up is a facet of the game that's never made sense. The existence of basic IOs doesn't make it any more sensible - rather, it highlights the nonsense.
Agreed. I don't actually know anyone anymore who even USES TO/DOs. Because...well, why the hell would you? They are pointless. The numbers they give are pathetic for what they cost, they run out and become inferior at level 22.


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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Yes, because actual in-game combat and content is EXACTLY the same as a tedious meta-game system that has to be re-done very few levels.
It is the same, both are boring and un-fun. Also IO don't have to do with in game combat... It is lame I rather stock on DO. DO work just fine at least until level 19 when they turn red. You only need to do this every you only need to slot your hero 9 times starting at level 12, 19, 22, 27, 32, 37, 42, 47, 50. Yes I know I left out respec but that not used that offer. Maybe once or twice. So this isn't a big deal at all.