This qualifies as a short-range blast!
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Posted on: 2012-06-21 09:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I don't think it does, but if so, they need to look at Focus from the claws set.
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Claws is hardly a blast set.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I don't think it does, but if so, they need to look at Focus from the claws set.
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Nor are Bane Spiders, really.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Claws is hardly a blast set.
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Melee sets I can see leaving at 40 feet, since that's their longest-range attack and... well, they're melee sets. Focus and Shockwave, Impale and Throw Spines, Hurl and Hurl Boulder... they're oddball ranged attacks in melee sets.
Bane Spiders aren't melee with ranged powers; they're offense/defense. In fact, looking at the powers, they get access to more ranged attacks in their primary than they do melee, so I'd certainly say they qualify as "blast-ish"
Poisonous Ray fits the bill for the powers being boosted: it's a shorter-range, higher-damage attack. It's more akin to Blaze and Bitter Ice Blast than it is to Impale or Focused Burst.
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No. You're more akin to a Kinetic Melee Scrapper. You have your silly cone, and your silly short range "ranged" power. You, however, do have an extra ranged attack. Shrug.|
Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Melee sets I can see leaving at 40 feet, since that's their longest-range attack and... well, they're melee sets. Focus and Shockwave, Impale and Throw Spines, Hurl and Hurl Boulder... they're oddball ranged attacks in melee sets.
Bane Spiders aren't melee with ranged powers; they're offense/defense. In fact, looking at the powers, they get access to more ranged attacks in their primary than they do melee, so I'd certainly say they qualify as "blast-ish" Poisonous Ray fits the bill for the powers being boosted: it's a shorter-range, higher-damage attack. It's more akin to Blaze and Bitter Ice Blast than it is to Impale or Focused Burst. |
I could see it being increased to 70 per the other Mace Blasts. I guess.
Not a big deal though.
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Three ranged attacks, huh? Bane Spiders have access to the following ranged attacks from their primary:|
Originally Posted by Reppu
You have your silly cone, and your silly short range "ranged" power. You, however, do have an extra ranged attack
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- Single Shot
- Burst
- Heavy Burst
- Venom Grenade
- Frag Grenade
- Mace Beam
- Mace Beam Blast
- Mace Beam Volley
- Poisonous Ray
Like bullony you can't. Gimping yourself by spurning the Wolf powers is as silly a concept-motivated farce as running a Mastermind without pets. *Looks at avatar*
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Originally Posted by Reppu
You're more akin to a Kinetic Melee Scrapper.
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- Pummel
- Bayonet
- Bash
- Pulverize
- Shatter
- Crowd Control
Even if you discount the Wolf powers, it still leaves Banes with 4 each of ranged and melee.
That's NOT a BLAST set.
Nice try though.
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Neither are Dominator secondaries, but they're getting the range treatment.
Nice try though.
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Then you're playing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Claws is hardly a blast set.
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So very very true. Back in the S/HO only days, I had 12 Centrioles slotted on my Claws/SR/Weapons scrapper. I'd kill entire spawns without being in melee range.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Then you're playing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Neither are Dominator secondaries, but they're getting the range treatment.
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SoA's attack sets are more similar to Assault sets than anything else. I fully support this buff. Banes are the redheaded stepchild of the VEAT family anyway.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I don't think it does, but if so, they need to look at Focus from the claws set.
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My claws blaster needs some range added too!
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Assault sets are partly derived from Blast sets though. Even then it'll probably only affect Blaze, Bitter Ice Blast and Power Burst. I'd be very surprised if Life Drain and Thorn Barrage were increased.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Neither are Dominator secondaries, but they're getting the range treatment.
Nice try though. |
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Even looking at just the mace powers, it's still 4/4 ranged/melee. So yeah, Banes are an assault set.|
Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Three ranged attacks, huh? Bane Spiders have access to the following ranged attacks from their primary:
Like bullony you can't. Gimping yourself by spurning the Wolf powers is as silly a concept-motivated farce as running a Mastermind without pets. *Looks at avatar* Conversely, Banes have access to the following melee attacks from their primary:
Even if you discount the Wolf powers, it still leaves Banes with 4 each of ranged and melee. |
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Originally Posted by Snowzone
Assault sets are partly derived from Blast sets though. Even then it'll probably only affect Blaze, Bitter Ice Blast and Power Burst. I'd be very surprised if Life Drain and Thorn Barrage were increased.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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With the survivability of SoA, who cars about the 40ft difference. Get in there and kill stuff while the baddies pray one of their hits land. Oh yeah, and mez protection...
It's worth noting that even blasters have single target ranged attacks shorter than 80 feet that were not mentioned to be expanded. For example, the tier 1 immobilize powers on many secondaries.
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But the forcus of the range increase was "Blast" powers.|
Originally Posted by JohnnyKilowatt
It's worth noting that even blasters have single target ranged attacks shorter than 80 feet that were not mentioned to be expanded. For example, the tier 1 immobilize powers on many secondaries.
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And I do believe when someone pointed it out to him, Hawk said they'd look at bringing all the tier 1s to Subdue's range.
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Originally Posted by guyperfect
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I don't think it does, but if so, they need to look at Focus from the claws set.
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Arbiter Hawk has said that ONLY the short range blasts in blast sets and Dominator t9 short range blasts will be changed in this way.
Claws Focus doesn't qualify, neither does Impale or Focused Burst.
I would wager that Poisonous Ray won't fit the bill either.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Well then Arbiter Hawk had better schedule a change of mind!|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
I would wager that Poisonous Ray won't fit the bill either.
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Maybe I can get Synapse to do it when Arbiter Hawk isn't looking... *Ponder*
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That sounds like a Nomi Malone moment waiting to happen. *push*
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
Well then Arbiter Hawk had better schedule a change of mind!
Maybe I can get Synapse to do it when Arbiter Hawk isn't looking... *Ponder* |
So hey, devs, you'll be upgrading this one to 80 feet too, right?
Riiiiiiiiight?