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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
That's exactly what it is. Pendragon gets the honor of "First absorb power used in game". If you look at his health bar in the Target window when he uses his Fae Shield, you should see part of that bar colored in as white, representing the amount of absorb he has left. I also put it in the trial's UI, since absorb is new, but in the future that's one thing to keep your eye on, especially once players start getting absorb in their own hands...
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Although I'll say it looked like a blue-ish color to me (in his actual HP bar). Kind of looked like patrol xp on top of his health bar.
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I was explaining all the ways bugs *and* player misunderstandings can take place.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Given that quote was in direct response to my post quoting Arbiter Hawk saying the entire league was supposed to be getting the buff:
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I'm having a hard time interpreting Zombie_Man's quote in the same way you are because of the chain of posts. Which is why I took Arbiter Hawk's statement as authoritative, and not speculated that 16 targets was possibly WAI. |
When Arbiter Hawk said the whole league should be getting level shifted, then I brought in that the real numbers might be wrong or that player testing might be in error.
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And I had thought I'd got around that as well with the screen capture showing 6 active light wells, +3 level shifts (what the character normally runs around with, not the expected +9), and a red-conning Olympian Guard.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
When Arbiter Hawk said the whole league should be getting level shifted, then I brought in that the real numbers might be wrong or that player testing might be in error.
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?p=4257013
Anyways, I'm just glad it will be fixed.
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one thing I'd like to mention, the eye beams may not be functioning as.. advertised I guess?
The pop up text says something like raking in front of him? There were a couple times where Tyrant was distinctly facing -away- from me, like I could see his butt clearly the whole time, and I got one shotted. Checking the combat log showed I was getting hit by his eye beams somehow.
Maybe just me.
I have a question regarding the Lights of the Well mechanic. My last league I was monitoring level shifts, sometimes when the lights went down I wouldn't get any shifts, which is explained by the fix mentioned in the first post. However, sometimes I'd get shifted but only for a couple of seconds, which obviously isn't enough to make any sort of impact on his health.
Is this some sort of side effect from the aforementioned bug, a different bug entirely, or is there a timing aspect to the Lights/level shifts that we're not aware of?
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There is at least some circumstance under which that's bugged. At least once that I noticed, for sure, I was debuffed from 50+3 to 50-3.
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
Quills of Jocas will only deal you one negative level shift for each shift you have on the character
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Ditto. I was hit with them and suddenly lost access to my incarnate powers and a couple epic pool powers (my level 49 and 47 choices)
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Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
There is at least some circumstance under which that's bugged. At least once that I noticed, for sure, I was debuffed from 50+3 to 50-3.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Ditto. I was hit with them and suddenly lost access to my incarnate powers and a couple epic pool powers (my level 49 and 47 choices)
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
Black Swan's Throw Quills power will disable all of your epic powers, including your incarnate powers but also APP/PPP powers. Her Quills of Jocas will only deal you one negative level shift for each shift you have on the character (Ultimate inspirations excepted)
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Agreed. I have been debuffed by six levels. This is very noticable when fighting portals, which are "only" level 54. When double debuffed this way it becomes very difficult to hit the portals, and when you hit, you do piddly damage, because they are now +7 to you. It becomes pointless to attack Black Swan, since she is +10 under the same conditions.|
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
There is at least some circumstance under which that's bugged. At least once that I noticed, for sure, I was debuffed from 50+3 to 50-3.
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From my Ice/Dark Corruptor last night.
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06-05-2012 18:54:20 Your Ice Blast freezes Commander for 44.9 points of smashing damage! 06-05-2012 18:54:20 Your Ice Blast freezes Commander for 70.16 points of cold damage! |
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06-05-2012 19:05:06 Your Ice Blast freezes Shadow Rift for 46.31 points of smashing damage! 06-05-2012 19:05:06 Your Ice Blast freezes Shadow Rift for 72.36 points of cold damage! |
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06-05-2012 19:07:10 Your Ice Blast freezes Shadow Rift for 8.16 points of smashing damage! 06-05-2012 19:07:10 Your Ice Blast freezes Shadow Rift for 12.75 points of cold damage! |
Note, the third damage entry above includes having activated Aim (which is probably the only reason I landed the shot), which for this character is a damage ratio increase of about 32%. Backing that out calculates that I would have dealt about 7% of my standard damage, which is pretty close to the expected 8% one deals to +7 targets.
Edit: I am focusing on the portals, because Black Swan herself has powers that could create the behavior above without involving level shifts. For example, after using Quills of Jocas, she gains use of Barrier. The Portals have no such benefit, and have no level shifts of their own.
Edit2: I looked, and "Throw Quills" doesn't apply any level debuffs. The implication is that Quills of Jocas is double stacking somehow.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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I'm pretty sure there's no relationship between negative level shifts and exemplar behavior. The Throw Quills power turns off access to Epic Pools as a direct effect of the power. Like most powers, Epic Pool powers have a short list of "disallowed modes" which let the devs turn them off, for things like Ouroboros challenge settings. Throw Quills uses this to disable them on targets it hits.
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Originally Posted by Canine
So just losing APP/patron powers isn't an indication of being dropped to 50-3. In fact, if you'd been dropped to 50-3, you'd still have had access to your 47 power, and possibly the 49 as well if the system treated it like being exemped down.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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I noticed it on Shadow Hunter when he changed forms first, but that's just because I did The Emperors Sword before I did the Night Ward arcs.
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
That's exactly what it is. Pendragon gets the honor of "First absorb power used in game". If you look at his health bar in the Target window when he uses his Fae Shield, you should see part of that bar colored in as white, representing the amount of absorb he has left. I also put it in the trial's UI, since absorb is new, but in the future that's one thing to keep your eye on, especially once players start getting absorb in their own hands...
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Originally Posted by Mokalus
I have a question regarding the Lights of the Well mechanic. My last league I was monitoring level shifts, sometimes when the lights went down I wouldn't get any shifts, which is explained by the fix mentioned in the first post. However, sometimes I'd get shifted but only for a couple of seconds, which obviously isn't enough to make any sort of impact on his health.
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The level shift reapplies every second. Due to the 16 target max, who gets it will change as players / pets move around, depending on their proximity to the invisible object that controls it (spherical powers start from the origin point and spiral outward until they hit max targets).
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For the record, I did it five times, all the way through, and got five common components.
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
I'll look at these reports of erroneous reward tables right away. Nobody actually playing the event all the way through should be getting this table - in fact, they should be getting a reward table with the same odds of Rare/Very Rare as Minds of Mayhem, TPN Campus, and Dilemma Diabolique.
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I've gotten 2-3 Rares and one VR. I think the rest were commons out of about 15 successes now. (Not meant to indicate I think those ratios are representative, I'm just mentioning that I have gotten "good" rewards" from the trial, so it's not completely broken, if broken at all.)
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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For the record, I did it five times, all the way through, and got five common components.
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It happened to me when I was going for a Rift - my Level Shift number went from Green to Red (+3 to -3). Couldn't repeat it the next time I tried.|
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
There is at least some circumstance under which that's bugged. At least once that I noticed, for sure, I was debuffed from 50+3 to 50-3.
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Also, turning off APP/PPP is a REALLY dirty trick for non-melees - suddenly *BAMF* no more defensive toggle! And there's no warning this happened, so I was doing my first 4 or 5 Magisterium runs going after Tyrant with no Shield.
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
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Is this a healthy spoiler or has it bin mentioned somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
That's exactly what it is. Pendragon gets the honor of "First absorb power used in game". If you look at his health bar in the Target window when he uses his Fae Shield, you should see part of that bar colored in as white, representing the amount of absorb he has left. I also put it in the trial's UI, since absorb is new, but in the future that's one thing to keep your eye on, especially once players start getting absorb in their own hands...
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Mentioned somewhere else. First, look at all Heal set enhancements: they are now Heal/Absorb on live right now. At the same time that appeared on beta, folks stumbled across the new, second wave of Archetype Enhancements, and the special/proc in the Defender set is "Chance for Absorb".|
Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero
Is this a healthy spoiler or has it bin mentioned somewhere else.
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Finally, I believe we knew to expect absorption in at least one of the new armor sets discussed at the latest Pummit.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Ditto. Didn't matter what character I brought, either.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I got my first Rare last night. Everything else has been Commons/Ten Thread Genital-Punch table.
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Only other dev that i liked this much was BaB. Hawk.
Love the new dev team overall though, None of this would be possible if castle was still around.
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You're just making up stuff, now. Castle doesn't need to be made into a whipping boy for doing his job--part of which was laying the groundwork for the issues we have today.
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Originally Posted by DarkBlaster_NA
None of this would be possible if castle was still around.
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I think the damage of footsomp area aoe and damage needs to be reduced significantly on this trial.
I hope this doesn't sound ridiculous , but has the development even try doing really hard way trial themselves?
All the Favor of the Well bar does is represent how much of this buff he's getting. At 49% health, it's very small. At 15%, it's very large.
When DPS on him slows down or stops, because people are defeated, lose level shifts, or have to run from his lightning, his Regen restores his HP. This causes the Favor (and the regen buff) to decrease. If you stop fighting him or slow down too much, his Favor bar will decay to zero.
He basically "overdoses" at 10%, and the Well severs its ties to him. That's when he shrinks and you win.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA