Kudos to you for doing that. I really couldn't, I enjoy leveling and using powersets too much.
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Originally Posted by houtex
... gettin' to 50?
Well, now you have.  Brawling Humiliator (Pinnacle) is now a 50. Using Brawl/ Will Power/ Energy Mastery. Woot.Brawl was the only, and will be the only, directly offensive power used. And he soloed the Alpha slot missions to boot. /oh, he's got a mace, but he just holds it when he fires off Build Up. //It looks cooler when he does that but still baps them in the face. ///All Solo and street sweeping too. No missions, no teams. But he's 50 now, so that rule goes bye. He'll team and mission now. ////Well... Have to admit the two teams for badging, no XP for Adamastor and Jurassik. /////And I gotta say he did no XP tip missions to go Vigilante, which really wasn't worth it. //////I gave the loot and the Inf gained during those away, so they really didn't count for anything. ///////Oh yeah, that one ITF attempt. Didn't work out. Ditto gains given away. |
Dreaded Wail hits things freakin' hard.. i like to hit things freakin' hard... so.. id go Wail... SAVE THE WAILS!!!! - Solar_Lunata
Your next Brute should only use Jump Kick.
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Jump kick only brute? Hm. Not as slow as Brawl, I bet... and a knockdown proc would be cool in it...... I may just roll one, just to be able to come back later and say "there, next?" 
/BH is movin' on up the Incarnate stuff though. Did a BAF, and then did a Master of Ms. Liberty TF (Formerly the STF) and we got the badge first time.
//I'm not sure he was much help though... I tanked and bapped as much as possible...
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I remember spying on you when you were in the RWZ bapping Arachnos on the street. Are you aiming for interface to make your brawl more lethal?
Also, wondering if Shield Defense would have helped you out. If you're looking at Jump Kick Brute, perhaps pair it with Stone Armor for extra hilarity?
Isn't there a NPC you can talk to that tells you how many hours that character has spent playing? I'd be interested to hear how long that took.
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268 hours total, I want to say, when I clicked the M name after celetraining at Miss Liberty, Johnny.
Leo, the plan is this: Moar defense is good, sure, but really want to get moar recharge and moar damage. BH can take a lot of hits, and heals pretty good with a posse, but he needs more DPS, and brawl can only do that if it recharges faster and hits harder. With Build Up and Hasten. The 25 seconds that Hasten isn't on is torture, makes a 24 second LT take down into 30 or such. >.<
As such, anything that'll also protect him from -Recharge is a good thing, so I'll be looking into that too.
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But honestly, I am really intrigued by the jump kick only brute. That sounds... fun. And with the knockdown, that sounds moar better.
Numbers wise, looks doable. But I would rather not do a WP this time, thinking invuln, SR or Regen... not sure. I had that same thought re: stone armor. But... that slowness with Rooted. You'd have to have rooted... I have a stone/stone brute and he's pretty fun, but man, rooted...
I should probably refrain from doing it though...
...But I probably will start it. Oh, and a female this time. Because that'll be awesome, a lithe jump kickin' woman. Yep. Good stuff.
The real problem is that you can't get Jump Kick (or Kick for that matter) until level 4. So I'd have to use whatever the main is to get there... OOOH. I could team on a DFB and not do anything. Yeah. That'll tick the team off... 
Naw, here we go... use Battle Axe or Titan Weapons. Use them until level 4, then in the bio use the excuse of "it was just too heavy to use it, but she carries the Axe/TW around because it gives her awesome kicking powers due to the runes inscribed on it." Or something. Yeah, there's the excuse. Now it's doable.
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This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012
Holy smokes. Brawl only to 50. That's gotta be the CoX equivalent of the South Park boys killing boars or mowing the White House lawn with hair clippers.
Well done! I think. I won't presume to speak for you, but I really wonder if some part of you wants those 268 hours back.
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Originally Posted by houtex
... gettin' to 50?
Well, now you have. Brawling Humiliator (Pinnacle) is now a 50. Using Brawl/ Will Power/ Energy Mastery. Woot.Brawl was the only, and will be the only, directly offensive power used. And he soloed the Alpha slot missions to boot. /oh, he's got a mace, but he just holds it when he fires off Build Up. //It looks cooler when he does that but still baps them in the face. ///All Solo and street sweeping too. No missions, no teams. But he's 50 now, so that rule goes bye. He'll team and mission now. ////Well... Have to admit the two teams for badging, no XP for Adamastor and Jurassik. /////And I gotta say he did no XP tip missions to go Vigilante, which really wasn't worth it. //////I gave the loot and the Inf gained during those away, so they really didn't count for anything. ///////Oh yeah, that one ITF attempt. Didn't work out. Ditto gains given away. |
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Naw, it was too fun, I don't miss the hours at all. I learned a lot, playing 'Chess' against the game to see if it could be done. Not sure if everything used to make BH work would translate to another character, due to the slotting. But the mechanics of the game? That knowledge? Oh yeah, my awesome claws/wp scrapper Homeslicer, if I rebuilt him using some of BH's knowledge, would just be plain *scary*. Thing of Bigness too, the SS/Inv Broot, and he's pretty powerful now.|
Originally Posted by Little_Whorn
Holy smokes. Brawl only to 50. That's gotta be the CoX equivalent of the South Park boys killing boars or mowing the White House lawn with hair clippers.
Well done! I think. I won't presume to speak for you, but I really wonder if some part of you wants those 268 hours back. |
As it is, I've rolled the Kick Jump only Brute, and... I gotta say, it's just hilarious to me to see this jumping only dervish slam the enemies in the jaw with bootheels. I dunno why. Oh, and sometimes they get knocked up in the air? Frackin funny stuff. Then, at level 6, I got Hasten. O. M. G., that is a serious contender for DPS, it recharges so fast, she's literally jumping non stop.
Dang it, I'm smiling thinking about the silliness. I can't wait to get Hasten to Perma on this one.
I know. I'm an oddity.
/I had no ideaaa... - Gir
//There's still so much to learn, 8 years in... o.0
August 31, 2012. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Or Information. Possibly Influence. Well, Inf, anyway. Thank you, Paragon Studios, for what you did, and the enjoyment and camaraderie you brought.
This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012
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This is a troll right? I mean, what is there to learn about this game using only brawl after playings for 8 years? This is up there with a dude i played with years ago who solo-ed a mind/rad troller to 50.
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Originally Posted by houtex
Naw, it was too fun, I don't miss the hours at all. I learned a lot, playing 'Chess' against the game to see if it could be done. Not sure if everything used to make BH work would translate to another character, due to the slotting. But the mechanics of the game? That knowledge? Oh yeah, my awesome claws/wp scrapper Homeslicer, if I rebuilt him using some of BH's knowledge, would just be plain *scary*. Thing of Bigness too, the SS/Inv Broot, and he's pretty powerful now.
As it is, I've rolled the Kick Jump only Brute, and... I gotta say, it's just hilarious to me to see this jumping only dervish slam the enemies in the jaw with bootheels. I dunno why. Oh, and sometimes they get knocked up in the air? Frackin funny stuff. Then, at level 6, I got Hasten. O. M. G., that is a serious contender for DPS, it recharges so fast, she's literally jumping non stop. Dang it, I'm smiling thinking about the silliness. I can't wait to get Hasten to Perma on this one. I know. I'm an oddity. /I had no ideaaa... - Gir //There's still so much to learn, 8 years in... o.0 |
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I believe the point here is the sheer amount of min-maxing and creative gameplay needed to make such an outlandish idea viable is such that you learn a great deal from it.
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Originally Posted by TommyTrD
This is a troll right? I mean, what is there to learn about this game using only brawl after playings for 8 years? This is up there with a dude i played with years ago who solo-ed a mind/rad troller to 50.
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Originally Posted by Premonitions
I believe the point here is the sheer amount of min-maxing and creative gameplay needed to make such an outlandish idea viable is such that you learn a great deal from it.
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Would *I* do a brawl only brute, no way. Would *I* play Iron Eagles Hardcore (delete on defeat), not really. But would everyone else try to solo a +4x8 ITF, probably not. We each pick our own metagames and learn different things from them.
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Originally Posted by Premonitions
I believe the point here is the sheer amount of min-maxing and creative gameplay needed to make such an outlandish idea viable is such that you learn a great deal from it.
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Originally Posted by Linea_Alba
I would agree. I would have said playstyle and metagame, things you just can't see in a build file or pure numbers, but only by doing. Unless you've played every conceivable combination of primary and secondary for years, there's still something to be learned.
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IMO, players that experience the game in a multitude of ways turn out to be better players in the long run/in general than players that focus on a narrow avenue of play such as in min/maxing.
If you played pre-buff Stalkers to any length and perfected using interruptible powers mid combat, you can do special things with the interrupt window that you cannot do if you don't clock in time trying things. There's also timing of attacks/enemy attacks with animation times (cause you used placate a bit) as well as disrupting foe actions and what not.
Same with players that strive with current Blasters. It's one thing to be able to min/max a blaster to solo spawns and farm maps like the rest, and it's another thing to *play* the game to *get* to that point. Blasters aren't easy but if you can manage to excel at one, just think how awesome you'd be if you pulled off a Dom or Corrupter with AoE mitigation to boot? Same goes for knowing what foes use what attacks and mezzes. If you're invulnerable to mez, most likely you won't even try to memorize that type of enemy's chain of attacks. A lot can be learned by not playing the game straight.
As for the project, houtex, if you're aiming to maximize use out of brawl/pool attacks, you can always look into sets that have higher innate global benefits while straying from sets that don't.
Example:
-Fire Armor might be an interesting choice since I think Fiery Embrace also adds fire damage to pool attacks.
-Energy Aura has a -rech foe aura that also grants you +rech.
-Ice Armor and EA have drain powers that can wear out foes while building your defense greatly all while enfeebling foes' recharge.
-Stay away from Kinetic Melee as Power Siphon only adds a tiny bit of ToHit and can only add damage by using Kinetic Melee attacks.
-Super Strength might be an interesting choice since Rage boosts damage and ToHit for longer but with a period of inactivity.
-Titan Weapons is a no-no. Build Momentum has a seemingly long animation time compared to standard Build Ups and provides less +dmg than BU while the burst of momentum does nothing for outside powers.
-If we're only using special powers as sources for damage while retaining other mitigation powers, what about damageless effects like Hand Clap, Fault, Touch of Fear, Lightning Clap and so on? Ice Melee for BU and Ice Patch might be a very good combo if you're using Jump Kick as well. Throw in a secondary that either adds more functionality/power to jump kick (like Fiery Embrace) or one that offers extra mitigation (Invulnerability) and I could see that working pretty smoothly.
As for what to do until lvl 4, you could always do badges or auto-complete missions until you get there...or like you said, just ask someone to Plvl you to 4.
Kudos to you! Reminds me of a character I was playing that only used brawl and crafted temp powers. Kinda went with a Casey Jones idea. I hadn't yet gotten him temp powers from missions, but I loved playing him, solo all the way to 15 when i shelved him. (i'm an altoholic) I might dust him off.
Keep us aprised of your jump kick brute.
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The others have said it above, but this isn't a troll, it's the truth, for me. I thought I knew plenty about Co*, and now realize that I don't know squat in comparison to others. PinnBadges can attest, I've been asking a lot of questions lately that, to me anyway, feel as though I probably should already know the answers to. But I don't, because before it wasn't all that important. Now it is, as this Brute is an oddity and needs all the help in certain offensive areas he can get. Playing a Claws/WP Scrapper is a *ton* easier when you don't have to worry about outlasting the opponent for a long time, for example.|
Originally Posted by TommyTrD
This is a troll right? I mean, what is there to learn about this game using only brawl after playings for 8 years? This is up there with a dude i played with years ago who solo-ed a mind/rad troller to 50.
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They're a patient bunch, them PinnBadges people. I appreciate their patience with me.
Grats to the dude who solo'd his Mind/Rad troller. I myself did a Mind/Kin to 50 though, so yeah, I know it can be done.
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The Jump Kick Brute is taking a back seat, but not forgotten. She's sidelined because I'm goin' after BH's Alpha slot. Moar Damage, so that's... Cardiac, I think.
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And in that pursuit, I did the Night Ward missions from Belladonna, and I totally beat Praetor Sinclair, solo, the 50+3 EB that he was. It was tough, and took forever (like 40 minutes or so) but there *is* a strategy that is easily applied. And once I figured it out, he was toast. Slowly cooked over low low heat toast, but toast nonetheless.
Oh yeah, and no inspirations, just BH vs Sinclair, mano y mano, in case that matters. I ran out, he regened, and I had to start over... and figured it out how to do it without the inspirations. w00t or something.
I acknowlege there's about 0 chance an AV version of him is beatable with just Brawl. He'd hit too hard, and there wouldn't be enough DPS to take him out. I don't care, this dude was *hard* to beat. I'm quite pleased with myself taking out the +3 EB, so there
Brawling Humiliator has to be my all time favorite character, seriously. I have to *think* to deal with his flaws of no offense, Figure out a way to beat the enemy with what I got. And that is actually quite fun for me. Chess with a superhero. Heh.
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Edit: Much later, figured out it's Musculature, not Cardiac, I need.
August 31, 2012. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Or Information. Possibly Influence. Well, Inf, anyway. Thank you, Paragon Studios, for what you did, and the enjoyment and camaraderie you brought.
This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012
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Darn you Linea. I'm still trying to pull that one off!
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Originally Posted by Linea_Alba
But would everyone else try to solo a +4x8 ITF, probably not. We each pick our own metagames and learn different things from them.
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lol. How did you slot your one offensive power? Did you stick a few triples or quad IO's in it and proc it out? Purples? lol, with the old sound fx it would be humerous, but machine gun brawl with the new sounds would make me lol every time.
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haha, "You will inevitably fall to my relentless punches!! Concede now to avoid my assault of attrition villain!"
i would like to see jumpkick girl on the prowl too.
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... gettin' to 50?
Brawling Humiliator (Pinnacle) is now a 50. Using Brawl/ Will Power/ Energy Mastery. Woot.
Well, now you have.
Brawl was the only, and will be the only, directly offensive power used. And he soloed the Alpha slot missions to boot.
/oh, he's got a mace, but he just holds it when he fires off Build Up.
//It looks cooler when he does that but still baps them in the face.
///All Solo and street sweeping too. No missions, no teams. But he's 50 now, so that rule goes bye. He'll team and mission now.
////Well... Have to admit the two teams for badging, no XP for Adamastor and Jurassik.
/////And I gotta say he did no XP tip missions to go Vigilante, which really wasn't worth it.
//////I gave the loot and the Inf gained during those away, so they really didn't count for anything.
///////Oh yeah, that one ITF attempt. Didn't work out. Ditto gains given away.
August 31, 2012. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Or Information. Possibly Influence. Well, Inf, anyway. Thank you, Paragon Studios, for what you did, and the enjoyment and camaraderie you brought.
This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012