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How wonderfully condescending.

I know full well of retcons. They can add and they can take away. When a retcon removes what was, that is what they call "bad".
The badge is NOT removed. It is renamed. Big difference.

If they did as you suggest, then we'd have to go through the same un-fun (for many players) activity again for NO GOOD REASON. On the whole, the developers would get far more complaints if they did as you suggest and make a new Master of Ms. Liberty and left the Master of Statesman badge for a flashback.

At any rate, it is kind of pointless to argue about it as it is going live tomorrow as it currently stands (no STF in flashback, only one "Master of" badge for Stateman's TF/Ms. Liberty TF). At most they have to change "Back Alley Brawler" to "Ms. Liberty".




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How wonderfully condescending.

I know full well of retcons. They can add and they can take away. When a retcon removes what was, that is what they call "bad".
Let's be clear here, *YOU* are calling it bad.
I haven't seen anyone else have a problem with it.
I certainly don't.


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Off topic note, is Ms Liberty no longer in Atlas Park? Is it BABs in the center?


 

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Off topic note, is Ms Liberty no longer in Atlas Park? Is it BABs in the center?
lol nope. Apparently it was too much work to swap Libs for BaB, since folks running Twinshot's arc have to talk to her once or twice. So Libs is staying in Fort Trident, AP, and IP. BaB's, meanwhile, stays in his little police station in the far far corner of AP.


 

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Off topic note, is Ms Liberty no longer in Atlas Park? Is it BABs in the center?
She's still in Atlas - so I think that she's now the most represented NPC in the game


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lol nope. Apparently it was too much work to swap Libs for BaB, since folks running Twinshot's arc have to talk to her once or twice. So Libs is staying in Fort Trident, AP, and IP. BaB's, meanwhile, stays in his little police station in the far far corner of AP.
Don't forget that she's also been subbed for Statesman in Recluse's Victory!

I think the current plan is to remove her from Atlas and put BABs in her place in Issue 24, though we'll see if they actually hold to that.


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Don't forget that she's also been subbed for Statesman in Recluse's Victory!
Well, phase one of her plan ended once her fall guy Darrin Wade had been dealt with - now she's spreading her power.


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That should be canon. There's no way somebody who isn't secretly an evil mastermind would bungle everything with Longbow the way she has. Half the time, the guys in the red and white tights seem just as bad as the enemies they face.


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That would be a bug.

I'll check to see if it's fixed in an upcoming patch (my gut says yes).
I thought that when everyone told Paragon Studios about this, and they hadn't gotten around to fixing it, that it was a Known Issue.

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I think you may have misread it.

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I just checked by transferring my badge character to the test server. I did NOT get either Yin's TF badge or Positron's Pal. I also know that this character has done both the Hero's Hero and Hero's Epic Arcs.
Bleah. Why aren't they awarding?

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lol nope. Apparently it was too much work to swap Libs for BaB, since folks running Twinshot's arc have to talk to her once or twice. So Libs is staying in Fort Trident, AP, and IP. BaB's, meanwhile, stays in his little police station in the far far corner of AP.
Well that's some quality planning...


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lol nope. Apparently it was too much work to swap Libs for BaB, since folks running Twinshot's arc have to talk to her once or twice. So Libs is staying in Fort Trident, AP, and IP. BaB's, meanwhile, stays in his little police station in the far far corner of AP.
I don't know, I think I'd object to her being removed from AP more than I would about any of the other changes. Such an iconic figure for new players that everyone remembers.

BAB is cool and all, but he doesn't need to be the one that everybody clusters around in Atlas.


 

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I like to see the world change over time, so I'd love to see NPCs shifting around and things in general progressing. Also BaBs is a much better character and deserves to finally get some time in the spotlight.


 

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Don't forget that she's also been subbed for Statesman in Recluse's Victory!

I think the current plan is to remove her from Atlas and put BABs in her place in Issue 24, though we'll see if they actually hold to that.
There's still hope they just kill off BABS! *crosses fingers*


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Bleah. Why aren't they awarding?
They are awarding after you do the badge requirements. They do NOT award simply logging in and having the other badge.

If you have Statesman’s Pal before Issue 23 you don't automatically get Positron’s Pal.

If you have Sister Psyche’s Comrade before Issue 23 you don't automatically get Penelope Yin’s Friend.

I was responding to someone that mis-heard that if you had one that you would automatically get the other.




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BAB is cool and all, but he doesn't need to be the one that everybody clusters around in Atlas.
Why not? He was already the grizzled, semi-retired hero that showed newbies the ropes in Galaxy City; it's not like this would be some big change for him. Besides, Ms. Liberty is popping up in a lot of places these days and could do with a little less on her already-full schedule.


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They are awarding after you do the badge requirements. They do NOT award simply logging in and having the other badge.

If you have Statesman’s Pal before Issue 23 you don't automatically get Positron’s Pal.

If you have Sister Psyche’s Comrade before Issue 23 you don't automatically get Penelope Yin’s Friend.

I was responding to someone that mis-heard that if you had one that you would automatically get the other.
So someone who has done everything prior to I23 would receive Posi's Pal in addition to Statesman's Pal, would keep SP's TF badge, and need to earn PY's TF badge. Thanks!


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lol nope. Apparently it was too much work to swap Libs for BaB, since folks running Twinshot's arc have to talk to her once or twice. So Libs is staying in Fort Trident, AP, and IP. BaB's, meanwhile, stays in his little police station in the far far corner of AP.
I happened to run Twinshot last night, and was specifically told to go see Libs in Fort Trident. I assumed this was a change in preparation of moving her off the Atlas dais, but I could just be suffering another memory fault.


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Why not? He was already the grizzled, semi-retired hero that showed newbies the ropes in Galaxy City;
All 5 of them?

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it's not like this would be some big change for him. Besides, Ms. Liberty is popping up in a lot of places these days and could do with a little less on her already-full schedule.
Here's what I would do:

1. Remove Ms. Liberty from Fort Trident. There's no need for her to be there, and missions often mistakenly send you to that version rather than the one in AP (though you can talk to either, but the waypoint says FT).

2. Remove Ms. Liberty from Independence Port. Add a dialog option to her in AP (similar to trainer/tailor or posi 1/posi 2 options) to launch the task force from there. Add a Longbow helicopter around the corner to take the place of the submarine door. Penelope Yin TF still launches from IP, as does Sutter, both in close proximity. No need for 3 TFs in that zone.

3. Give BAB a new Task Force or story arc to hand out. Something cool that people will want to run. Move him to a more prominent location (Peregrine perhaps? Or Brickstown).


 

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So someone who has done everything prior to I23 would receive Posi's Pal in addition to Statesman's Pal, would keep SP's TF badge, and need to earn PY's TF badge. Thanks!
Almost.

Anyone who had Statesman's Pal (from either Hero's Hero or Hero's Epic) would have to run Hero's Epic again to get Posi's Pal. As of today, Hero's Epic does not award Statesman's Pal. To get Statesman's Pal, you have to run Hero's Hero.

If someone had SP TF badge, they would need to run Yin's TF to get the new badge as well.

This follows the long rule that any new badges that get put into the game have to fulfill their requirements after the badge started counting. In this case both Positron's Pal and the Yin TF badge started counting today, so you need to earn them from today on. Of course this doesn't apply to badges that were just modified (like the Master of Statesman badge).

I hope this clears things up.




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It does! And I know how things have gone in the past, so I don't know why I didn't think that out more logically. Thanks!


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When I ran the Yin TF today I was awarded the correct Badge, but my progress toward Task Force Commander did not change. Am I correct in assuming that is not WAI?


 

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When I ran the Yin TF today I was awarded the correct Badge, but my progress toward Task Force Commander did not change. Am I correct in assuming that is not WAI?
The Yin TF badge is supposed to count for TF Commander.




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When I ran the Yin TF today I was awarded the correct Badge, but my progress toward Task Force Commander did not change. Am I correct in assuming that is not WAI?
Are you sure that you hadn't also run the SPTF at some point on that avatar?


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Are you sure that you hadn't also run the SPTF at some point on that avatar?
Personal Info in game shows Positron's Ally, Synapse's Cohort, and Penelope Yin's Friend, but only 2 out of 6 progress toward TFC.