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I look forward to the first MMO made for those. Maybe a Pokemon style game?
LOL! I don't know whether to be excited about that or pity anyone who plays it.

Imagine walking down the street and on your HUD you get a little prompt saying "Wild Pokemon appears" and a little avatar pops on the screen. Then you engage in a battle, but you get really into it and turn your cap backward and throw your imaginary Pokeball all the while people are staring at you wondering what in the hell you were smoking and where they can get some. Too priceless!


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Personally I'd rather robots drive our cars than we do. One day they will be more reliable than us. Because they optimized for the process, they won't get bored, sleepy, angry, drunk or just careless. Our roads will be much safer. People won't have to just accept 30 to 40 thousand deaths on the road every year anymore.

Can't get here soon enough I say.
Until Skynet becomes self aware and decides that humans are a virus that needs to be exterminated. It could happen! I mean, couldn't it? Bueller? Bueller? ;-;

But just because we're not dealing with the problems you mentioned doesn't mean we wouldn't be dealing with completely different problems resulting in the same outcome.

In the interim, I'm perfectly happy with the NY Public Transportation System.


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Unless they name the car the Kwisatz HatcherBack.
Must be a Richese product. House Vernius would never make a HatcherBack.


 

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Until Skynet becomes self aware and decides that humans are a virus that needs to be exterminated. It could happen! I mean, couldn't it? Bueller? Bueller? ;-;
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Skynet will come into existence the first day a GoogleCar attempts to drive itself around London, goes psychotic and decides that humanity is not worth saving.


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Until Skynet becomes self aware and decides that humans are a virus that needs to be exterminated.
Which is ironic to be concerned about since you're already using the Internet. We're already doomed on that front, with or without robot cars. Just sayin'

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In the interim, I'm perfectly happy with the NY Public Transportation System.
Robot cars aren't ready yet so, in the meantime, I'll agree. But when they do come, I think they'll be a great thing.


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Really don't know that I'd trust an automated car.

Not that I think anyone behind making them are idiots.

But as mentioned, one would probably have to behind the wheel. While it may become a rare occurance, if a glitch did happened, what happens when the waking up early going to work "driver" falls asleep at the wheel due to boredom.

Admittedly people fall asleep at the wheel now, but the point still stands imo. *shrug* Also just seems more likely for someone to fall asleep at the wheel when they have no reason to stay awake.
I understand your concern about this and I agree I'd like this kind of thing tested for at least several more years before they even attempt to make it "mainstream".

But it's a sobering fact to realize that most commercial airline flights are already heavily automated like this. It's not just the classic "auto-pilot" used while at altitude - many modern airliners can pretty much take-off and land by themselves too. Every year the human pilots are becoming more and more relegated to an almost secondary babysitter role. If they can now trust automation to planes why not cars?

While it's hard to accept driver-less cars now I suspect in a few decades time it'll seem strange that we worried about it in the first place.


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LOL! I don't know whether to be excited about that or pity anyone who plays it.

Imagine walking down the street and on your HUD you get a little prompt saying "Wild Pokemon appears" and a little avatar pops on the screen. Then you engage in a battle, but you get really into it and turn your cap backward and throw your imaginary Pokeball all the while people are staring at you wondering what in the hell you were smoking and where they can get some. Too priceless!
This actually brings up a point that ties in with the cars, too. Listing your business with Google will eventually become the one sure way to make sure their automated cars can find it easily. (They'll have to know where to park, not just where it is.) And, of course, you'll want your business to come up at the top of the list of any Google searches done for such things in your area.

How do you do that? Well, if there's a popular Real World MMO (RWMMORPG) using the glasses, then you can sign your business up as a quest point for it. If you stick with the Pokemon idea, examples would be a Pokemon gym, with computer controlled gym leaders. Or a place where you can pick up an item such as a TM or an Ultra Ball. This would get more people trying to find your business, which leads to them doing more searches and/or driving there.

If there's four pizza places in the area that are all good, but only one's set up as a quest point, then that gives them an extra draw to pull people in AND helps them to move up to the top of the search lists.


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But it's a sobering fact to realize that most commercial airline flights are already heavily automated like this. It's not just the classic "auto-pilot" used while at altitude - many modern airliners can pretty much take-off and land by themselves too. Every year the human pilots are becoming more and more relegated to an almost secondary babysitter role. If they can now trust automation to planes why not cars?
Excellent point this. And high speed rail systems in Europe and Asia are also highly automated. The trains move so quickly that a human pilot simply can't react fast enough to apply breaking if a faulty signal warning happens too late--a computer on the other hand can. And the US rail freight industry has been steadily and slowly increasing the amount of automation in the system, to reduce costs, increase reliability and so on.

Perhaps cars on the highways of our future will be moving at such speeds and at such close proximity to each other (Look up car platooning to see why.) that a human driver just won't be able to cope.


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Ah, Singularity. Hurry up!

For all those people worried about "the old fashioned way..."


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If a robot is gonna drive me around I want the Johnny Cab



Then at least I can boot him out and drive the thing in case of emergency.


 

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I know a few of you have mentioned the singularity and here is a very informative talk from an economist and tech point of view on how it may happen and the implications of it happening:

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/_fe.../robin_hanson/

Its a 1:37 hour long podcast, but its pretty awesome. Once you finish that check out all the different articles about modeling mouse brains that have come out of MIT in the last few years. A shiver will run down your spine. Maybe we will see this happen during our lifetimes.


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"Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking of them."

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That's brilliant! That's going in my sig right now!


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Call me a curmudgeon, but I actually enjoy the act of driving, just wandering aimlessly for a coupla hours on some backroad or off the beaten path is a simple pleasure. I'd much rather drive to my destination than take a plane or a train if I have the time.

I suppose the automated part would be cool if I could go non-stop except for fuel, would sure make cross-country drives alot more productive since I tend to get tired after about 16 or 17 hours of straight driving (most I ever drove was 21 hours straight from Kansas to Virginia - dont think I'll do that again)



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I really enjoy just driving as well. I used to get bored when at University and drive to a random bit of seaside or a cathedral. Both are quiet and lovely at 4am, and then I could drive back home before dawn.


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Googlecar - knows everything about everyone it's carrying.

Microsoftcar - zero day exploit allows Russian hackers to command all cars to New Mexico for world's largest demolition derby.

Applecar - insists you have dinner at the new trendy bistro instead of a quick stop at In-N-Out.


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Googlecar - knows everything about everyone it's carrying.

Microsoftcar - zero day exploit allows Russian hackers to command all cars to New Mexico for world's largest demolition derby.

Applecar - insists you have dinner at the new trendy bistro instead of a quick stop at In-N-Out.
Linuxcar - Incompatible to run on 98% of the roads.


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Hehehe, yeah, seriously, I keep imagining this:

Passenger: Google Car, why are you making a left turn here??

Google Autonomous Car: Since it is somewhat along the way towards your destination, I thought you might like to stop at WALMART to buy a TOSHIBA BLURAY PLAYER!


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Linuxcar - Incompatible to run on 98% of the roads.
Maybe that Linuxcar is different from the one I heard about.

I think a more realistic assessment is, "Linuxcar, fully documented, fully open, built like a built like a tank, fast as a jet fighter and there before 80% of the roads were even built. In fact the roads (The TCP/IP network stack.) were built with and for the predecessors of Linuxcar, therefore all the roads are compatible and always will be."

But to be fair to all the non-Linux geeks out there, how about this?

"Linuxcar, not for the feint of heart."


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Maybe that Linuxcar is different from the one I heard about.

I think a more realistic assessment is, "Linuxcar, fully documented, fully open, built like a built like a tank, fast as a jet fighter and there before 80% of the roads were even built. In fact the roads (The TCP/IP network stack.) were built with and for the predecessors of Linuxcar, therefore all the roads are compatible and always will be."

But to be fair to all the non-Linux geeks out there, how about this?

"Linuxcar, not for the feint of heart."
K, how about this:


Linuxcar: the best car ever!*

*Linuxcar owners must be trained professional Linuxcar mechanics to own and drive.


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K, how about this:

Linuxcar: the best car ever!*

*Linuxcar owners must be trained professional Linuxcar mechanics to own and drive.
I concur!


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