8-year vet badge?


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Anyone have one? I don't, but I should.


 

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I'm in the same boat and it's a boat I expected to be in months ago. As far as I'm aware no one has gotten any annual vet badge since CoH:Freedom launched. People have been mentioning not getting them for many months now.

Basically I believe the Devs are at the point where they either need to radically redefine what these badges are for or remove them from the game completely. It's clear that they either can't fix them or haven't seriously bothered to try at this point. I understand this is not the most critical thing that needs to be fixed in this game. But how many months (or even years) does this have to linger before something is done about it?


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i believe last time it was brought up it was considered a low priority thing by zwill, its almost completely off their radar like they just gave up on them

i would hope for them to be fixed soon, but from the sounds of zwills posts on the subject it doesnt sound that way, if they are ever to be fixed


 

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I think the problem stems from the fact that the Devs no longer have an easy way to tell how long a given player has been VIP versus premium. Whatever changes they did for CoH:Freedom made it hard/impossible for them to figure it out anymore.

I have proposed a very simple alternative that should be fairly obvious and straightforward. Instead of worrying about the whole VIP/premium issue they should just base these badges off of the "account creation" date that everyone has on their account. The idea is to simply award people a badge for every year their account has existed, period. Now obviously this solution would no longer account for whether people have been subscribed for such-n-such time or not, but really when you think about it who really cares about that?

I'd much rather have a few people get a few extra new badges under this new requirement than to have the Devs waste any more time trying to figure out how to get their account database system to do something they apparently can't get it to do. It should be simple enough to figure out how many years has passed since an account was created and move past this whole embarrassing situation.


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i would be in agreement with that suggestion, Lothic


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
i would be in agreement with that suggestion, Lothic
Thanks. It really does seem like the quickest and easiest way to handle this otherwise ever-lingering problem.

One thing I just thought of would be how to handle people who've actually had accounts longer than the game has been live. Many beta testers created accounts long before April, 28 2004. But even that "problem" is fairly trivial to solve. For the purposes of these annual vet badges the system can simply assume that the oldest possible "seniority date" is April, 28 2004 regardless of your actual account date. This would be in keeping with the original Vet Award system which by definition never considered any date before April, 28 2004 to be a valid anniversary date regardless.


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I agree 100% with Lothic. It's an easy solution and looks like a win win situation for everyone. I want the badges I've earned. I have zero problem with other people getting an extra one and would hopefully put the issue to rest for the devs.


 

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Originally Posted by Plasma View Post
Anyone have one? I don't, but I should.
No one has got a new Vet-Year badge since September. It doesn't matter if it is a 1 year badge or, now, the 8 year badge.

For the record, I should have got the 7 year badge in Feb.




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I was one month away from my next vet badge when Freedom went live and broke them. Soon I'll be due another vet badge.

Fix them or remove them, please. I've suggest before that if you have to remove them that you could toss us about 8000 paragon points as compensation.

Or else use Lothic's idea to check account creation dates.


 

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i got lucky with my 5 year vet badge, i got that about 1 month before freedom released lol


lothics reasoning for wanting the badges be made for all accounts creation date is fine, technically the badges just say 1 year vet, it doesnt exactly discriminate between VIP and non VIP. and i think most vets have learned that vet reward badges != skill level


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
lothics reasoning for wanting the badges be made for all accounts creation date is fine, technically the badges just say 1 year vet, it doesnt exactly discriminate between VIP and non VIP. and i think most vets have learned that vet reward badges != skill level
To be fair even back before CoH:Freedom launched there were problems with how the Vet badges were awarded. There were random people getting them either months too early or months too late. Apparently the Devs have never really figured out how to handle jumping through all the hoops of their convoluted time accounting system.

Now we're faced with a system that's not just sort of broken but one that is -completely- broken. I understand what the Devs were trying to accomplish with their "vision" of Vet badges only counting for subscribed time, but that vision no longer applies when Vet badges can't be awarded to anyone for any reason.

It's time for the Devs to cut their losses and reassign these badges to denote time since account creation. It may not be exactly what the Devs intended, but at least it'd be relatively simple to implement and declare "fixed" so they can move on to other things.


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I contacted support and I got a reply suggesting a fix is in the works for a future publish...

"Thanks for taking the time to contact us with this report. We are currently aware of this issue and hope to have a fix implemented in an upcoming patch."



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I contacted support and I got a reply suggesting a fix is in the works for a future publish...

"Thanks for taking the time to contact us with this report. We are currently aware of this issue and hope to have a fix implemented in an upcoming patch."
This will be great if this "upcoming patch" is some time in the reasonably near future. But to be honest I've seen responses to this issue using the exact same words word-for-word that were given to us six months ago.

I suppose like everything else time will tell...


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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
No one has got a new Vet-Year badge since September. It doesn't matter if it is a 1 year badge or, now, the 8 year badge.

For the record, I should have got the 7 year badge in Feb.
Not true, I got my 8 Year Vet badge towards the beginning of April. Strange but true.


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Not true, I got my 8 Year Vet badge towards the beginning of April. Strange but true.
OK, so not only do you seem to be one of the only cases I've heard of of ANYONE getting these badges since CoH:Freedom launched but you also got it earlier than it should have been possible for ANYONE to have gotten it given that April, 28 2012 was the "official" 8th anniversary according to the rules laid out by the original Vet Award system.

Don't you feel special?


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
OK, so not only do you seem to be one of the only cases I've heard of of ANYONE getting these badges since CoH:Freedom launched but you also got it earlier than it should have been possible for ANYONE to have gotten it given that April, 28 2012 was the "official" 8th anniversary according to the rules laid out by the original Vet Award system.

Don't you feel special?
I was under the impression that the # year vet badges were completely separate items from the anniversary badges as I have both up to 7. The anniversary badges are awarded for participating in the anniversary celebration, and the # year vet badges are awarded for every 12 months you subscribe.

Or am I mistaken and have been given 7 badges in error?


 

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I was under the impression that the # year vet badges were completely separate items from the anniversary badges as I have both up to 7. The anniversary badges are awarded for participating in the anniversary celebration, and the # year vet badges are awarded for every 12 months you subscribe.

Or am I mistaken and have been given 7 badges in error?
I think the confusion here is that people who've been here fully subscribed since the beginning of the game (like myself) should be getting the annual vet badges at just about the same time as the game anniversary badges, give or take a few days.

To be perfectly clear I just logged in and got the 8th Anniversary badge (Rhapsodic) for my characters but I'm overdue for my 8th year Vet badge by a few days now (should have had it on April 28th).


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
I think the confusion here is that people who've been here fully subscribed since the beginning of the game (like myself) should be getting the annual vet badges at just about the same time as the game anniversary badges, give or take a few days.

To be perfectly clear I just logged in and got the 8th Anniversary badge (Rhapsodic) for my characters but I'm overdue for my 8th year Vet badge by a few days now (should have had it on April 28th).
Ah. I see. I'm not sure exactly when I'm supposed to get my 8 year vet badge cuz active time has been thrown off schedule from the free months I got each time I bought a newly released edition of the game.

Is it possible your vet schedule was thrown off balance the same way?


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Ah. I see. I'm not sure exactly when I'm supposed to get my 8 year vet badge cuz active time has been thrown off schedule from the free months I got each time I bought a newly released edition of the game.

Is it possible your vet schedule was thrown off balance the same way?
Anything like that is possible. Still I have to go back to the fact that virtually no one (OV_ohms being the only real exception I know about at the moment) has gotten their expected annual vet badges since CoH:Freedom launched last year. I think it's safe to say that we are dealing with something far more problematic than a few people having their dates being shifted by a few months here or there.


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I contacted support and I got a reply suggesting a fix is in the works for a future publish...

"Thanks for taking the time to contact us with this report. We are currently aware of this issue and hope to have a fix implemented in an upcoming patch."
That's the canned response for anything on the Known Issues list. And yes, I should've gotten the 8 year badge last week as well.


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
OV_ohms being the only real exception I know about at the moment
I expect that I received the badge as, having had numerous problems with my veteran rewards in the past, I have had my veteran time manually set on at least one occasion and most likely more.


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I expect that I received the badge as, having had numerous problems with my veteran rewards in the past, I have had my veteran time manually set on at least one occasion and most likely more.
Well a unique case like yours is exactly what I was trying to describe when I mentioned that the Devs really have had some flakey problems with the Vet badges all along. There have been at least several people I'm aware of over the years who for whatever reason got their Vet badges many -months- off from when they should have gotten them.

This again is why I'll mention my suggestion to have the current annual Vet badges trigger off of the account creation dates. It should be far easier for the Devs to figure out how to do that consistently than to keep beating their collective heads against the wall of worrying about subscribed versus non-subscribed time and handling individual accounts on a "manual" basis.


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Originally Posted by TsumijuZero View Post
I contacted support and I got a reply suggesting a fix is in the works for a future publish...

"Thanks for taking the time to contact us with this report. We are currently aware of this issue and hope to have a fix implemented in an upcoming patch."
Yeah.... I hope to have a giant fly swatter handy in case monkeys fly out of my butt.


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Yup. I'm still slightly miffed about my bad luck, given that Freedom went live less than a week before I should have received my 5 year vet badge. So, now that badge is appx 8 months overdue. And when I've reported it, got the same canned answers that someone posted above, except for once when the response I received actually explained they were having some sort of problem with calculating the time.

I'd say, as other have said, that Freedom broke their accounting system (granted, it was damaged before) and that there isn't an easy fix that figures VIP time. Given that, I'd fully endorse Lothic's solution. Of course, I might be slightly biased, as that solution would probably give me 3 vet badges, due to having a few periods of inactivity.


 

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I'm miffed, because I'm still sitting here with a 6 year badge, and I've got 7 years 1 month paid time (i took a year off, acct created may 2004). I used to look forward to the vet badges every 3 months, and the goodies that came along with it. Bah.


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