any guides on putting procs in AoE immobilize


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I hear the cool kids do it

I assume you can start putting procs in at level 10 or so, but a guide would be handy to find out just what you can do


 

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Open up mids, see what damage procs your set's aoe immob takes, get them, slot them.
That's about it. Guide complete.


 

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yeah there's only so many immob and targeted aoe sets and only so many damage procs between those two groups.


 

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The one big exception is Plant Control's Roots. It does twice the damage of other AoE Immobs, which is doubled again by Containment for Controllers, so it is worth slotting for damage. However, once you have capped or nearly capped damage slotted, you can add a proc or two.

In general, the AoE Immobs have an accuracy penalty, so you want to make sure you have enough accuracy slotted. And depending upon your build, you may want to slot some EndRdx. After that for any AoE Immob other than Roots, load up on procs. (And some procs may do more damage even in Roots than slotting for damage. Just take a look in Mids, but remember that the damage is not "steady.")


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Also on my dark/cold controller i found putting the tohit debuff set + procs in there made it a beast.


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The most important thing you'll ever slot in an aoe immob is the grav anchor hold proc, but that doesn't come until you hit 50.


 

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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi View Post
The most important thing you'll ever slot in an aoe immob is the grav anchor hold proc, but that doesn't come until you hit 50.
I agree! I love it slotted in Living Shadows, but this is before the upcoming proc changes. The proc is a big part of the build and how I play the toon. I may end up retiring him.


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To be fair, a guide could also include the different kinds of AoE immobs and IO potential. Gravity and Ice can slot slows, which gives it another proc.



 

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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack View Post
I agree! I love it slotted in Living Shadows, but this is before the upcoming proc changes. The proc is a big part of the build and how I play the toon. I may end up retiring him.
Don't feel too bad, if the PPM Proc changes make their way through in their current state I will likely retire 2-3 toons, one being a level 50 incarnate.

PPM's rules on AoE attacks, coupled with the new recharge rules makes my Time/Rad buzzsaw build a very sad panda.

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Just read the newest propositions by Synapse, they aren't as drastic as originally planned, but still makes me a bit leery for some powers.


 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
Just read the newest propositions by Synapse, they aren't as drastic as originally planned, but still makes me a bit leery for some powers.
I've been trying to fix up my Gravity/Energy Dominator, and it makes a big difference to me if slots are meaningful or not -- that's a combo that is just crying for AoE damage, so slotting Crushing Field that way would really help it. But if I couldn't get meaningful damage to Crushing Field then I'd probably just make sure it had enough accuracy and move on. So I'm waiting on my respec until after I know what's going to happen.


 

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You're certainly not the only one waiting on the final version of the new PPM procs for aoe powers. I've got several myself.

I'd say this change is big enough that it really warrants a free respec to everyone.


 

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Well, from what I remember Synapse posting as he took input and updated his plan for changing the PPM's (and all procs in the end, since everything is changing to PPM's) the best strategy, especially for powers like the AoE immobs is to slot no reharge in the power itself, rely totally on global recharge.

Doing this will meant the procs should use the standard 8 second recharge to calculate their chance to fire and since the base goal of the changes seem to be centered around making procs slotted in powers with approx a 3-4 second recharge have the same chance to fire that they do now it should mean an overall increase in procability, not decrease. (is procability a word? The spellchecker doesn't think so :-).

I do agree that switching all existing procs to a PPM system, rather than the current flat rate, is a big enough change that it merits a freespec - but I thought that about the changes in i22 and we didn't get one until the anniversary date, so who knows what the dev's think. Unfortunately, this is all two issues away so it is going to leave at lot up in the air until we get i24 on beta and can actually test it.


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