Purple sets at market now!
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Angelic_Fire,
Posted on: 2012-04-24 15:59 in The Market and Inventions
I would feel so good about myself if I ensured that someone got to spend an extra day running an AE farm before being harvested for organs. More importantly, I'd be supporting the people who put him there.
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Your entire argument goes off the rails right here. If they had introduced the banning policy in a similar timeframe, you might have a valid point. But the perma-ban policy for buying gold has been around since LONG before the market existed.
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Originally Posted by Intrinsic
You are absolutely correct of course. It's all about the money; my concern is that by selling purple enhancements, NCSoft is entering a niche where they are not competitive on price, and have to gain market share by creating artificial barriers to entry such as banning players who buy from other companies.
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Interesting comparison. I never thought of it that way.
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Originally Posted by Greyhame
I haven't bought any, but I'll have to examine the possibility. I can buy a set for less than 1 hour of overtime at work. I can't make that much inf in game in an hour
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But you have to also consider the opportunity cost of all the *other* things that you can spend the cash from that hour of overtime on. Versus there's not really anything else you can do with inf.|
Originally Posted by Greyhame
I haven't bought any, but I'll have to examine the possibility. I can buy a set for less than 1 hour of overtime at work. I can't make that much inf in game in an hour. It's probably going to be more efficient to just work extra. Good thing I like my job
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(Plus for me, I tend to accumulate a lot of inf just *playing the game*, which I'm going to do anyways. Your comparison only works perfectly if you consider "making inf in game" and "working overtime" to both be the same value on the leisure vs work spectrum)
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Your not vulnerable to a hack when you give them the key to house. You certainly couldn't cry you were "hacked" after explaining you gave some online stranger your user account name and password. You could call yourself stupid but certainly not hacked.
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Originally Posted by Intrinsic
A good example of this would be powerleveling services. Other companies offer that service as well, but the player has to give them login information which would leave the account vulnerable to hacking attempts.
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1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
At this point I just do not see any difference between selling purple sets on the market and them just selling INF so a player can buy sets in game that are not listed on the market yet or just selling a Power leveling service. Heck while they are at it they might as well take custom orders for your choice of AT and how you want it slotted and with what sets. All they need to do is take a mids build and have it auto build the toon for them.
All they are doing now is just slowly selling off the farm. Might as well just kick it into high gear and go all out and be done with it.
I cry DOOOOMMM honestly
1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
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Originally Posted by plainguy
At this point I just do not see any difference between selling purple sets on the market and them just selling INF so a player can buy sets in game that are not listed on the market yet or just selling a Power leveling service. Heck while they are at it they might as well take custom orders for your choice of AT and how you want it slotted and with what sets. All they need to do is take a mids build and have it auto build the toon for them.
All they are doing now is just slowly selling off the farm. Might as well just kick it into high gear and go all out and be done with it. I cry DOOOOMMM honestly |
Sarcasm? On MY Internet?
It's more likely than you think.
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I do not like them selling any of the dropped inventions set enhancements on the Paragon Market even in the account locked state they do. In my opinion it is already easy enough for anyone to play some number of hours, earn Reward Merits and/or hero/villain merits and simply buy every one of them except for PvP and Purple IOs.|
Originally Posted by plainguy
At this point I just do not see any difference between selling purple sets on the market and them just selling INF so a player can buy sets in game that are not listed on the market yet or just selling a Power leveling service. Heck while they are at it they might as well take custom orders for your choice of AT and how you want it slotted and with what sets. All they need to do is take a mids build and have it auto build the toon for them.
All they are doing now is just slowly selling off the farm. Might as well just kick it into high gear and go all out and be done with it. I cry DOOOOMMM honestly |
However to compare people being able to convert their real money into an account bound Purple to people being able to convert real money into ingame money which is not account bound is a flawed view. As would be comparing being able to buy XP boosts to buying a powerleveling service. This is like saying selling matches means they may as well sell us nuclear reactors since both generate energy.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Not always the case.|
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Except that you can be permanently banned from the game if caught buying or selling in-game items for real life money.
Losing $12.50 once is a lot cheaper than losing the near $1000 I've spent on my account over the last 8 years. Plus that money actually goes somewhere I want it to go (Paragon Studios), rather than funding Chinese gangs or prisons. |
A friend of mine emailed himself a lot of money and lost it. When he contacted customer support, they told him they had records of him dealing with RMTers.
He just never responded and he was never banned.
I've also had one girl accidently slip that she buys inf all the time in front of a GM, and they didn't care.
I've actually never heard of anyone banned from buying it, and I can tell you the majority of PvPers did back in the day. I can only name 3 PvPers who never have, that includes me. That excludes a couple kids I know in the 10-13 range who have used it too.
Racist comments against Jewish people or comments of anything about the holocaust pretty much results in a perma-ban within 24 hours though. I've seen that countless times.
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Anyone hink they should follow the diablo 3 market. Buy and/or SELL in game items for real money. Sell all those Purples you have stock piled for real cash =p
I don't think it's a healthy idea... but i wanted to throw it out there.
Check out this!!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/LastRoninCoH/featured
I have nearly 2000 purples. I like this plan. I can't quit my day job, but it would be a nice wad of cash.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
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It always looked like it was a subset of the player base that got thrown out of joint by RMT. You also have to wonder if and how much of RMT activity was Paragon studios. After all the information about their market is priceless.
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Originally Posted by Sentry4
Not always the case.
A friend of mine emailed himself a lot of money and lost it. When he contacted customer support, they told him they had records of him dealing with RMTers. He just never responded and he was never banned. I've also had one girl accidently slip that she buys inf all the time in front of a GM, and they didn't care. I've actually never heard of anyone banned from buying it, and I can tell you the majority of PvPers did back in the day. I can only name 3 PvPers who never have, that includes me. That excludes a couple kids I know in the 10-13 range who have used it too. Racist comments against Jewish people or comments of anything about the holocaust pretty much results in a perma-ban within 24 hours though. I've seen that countless times. |
I'm VIP, I'm lvl 50, why does it tell me I cannot access the area of the paragon market that sells purple IO sets?
This area of the Store does not contain anything for your character at this time. This could be due to one of several reasons including:
Your character does not meet the correct requirements (class, level, etc).
Your account status may already grant access to this category's offerings.
As your character advances, offers may become visible. New offers are always being added to the store. Please check back often.
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You can't buy any purples, because there aren't any for sale. The announcement for the Hecatomb Set doesn't show an expiry date, but the one for Unbreakable Constraint shows that it was only available for one week. It's possible that they'll come back as a permanent item in the future, especially since every other Purple set is currently on the Beta server, but right now, there are no Purples on the Live Paragon Market.
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Originally Posted by Angelic_Fire
I'm VIP, I'm lvl 50, why does it tell me I cannot access the area of the paragon market that sells purple IO sets?
This area of the Store does not contain anything for your character at this time. This could be due to one of several reasons including: Your character does not meet the correct requirements (class, level, etc). Your account status may already grant access to this category's offerings. As your character advances, offers may become visible. New offers are always being added to the store. Please check back often. |
@Roderick
They need to just unleash the Kraken and sell them all on the market now.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Oh good, so I'm not an idiot, nor do I have a bug. Woot Woot! Thanks!
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That sounds interesting. Can't wait until this actually comes about and I can go back to ignoring the market as a necessary evil.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
They need to just unleash the Kraken and sell them all on the market now.
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119088 - Outcasts Overcharged. Heroic.
Would be nice to be able to use power boosters on rare/purple recipies bought thru Shop/Paragon Market. Was a waste of good points to get and have them not treated the same way as ones bought/earned thru Wentworths/Black Market. Also, cutting price in half would help sell more as alot of us have multiple toons.
Necroing is bad, mmmkay?
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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People pursuing game achievement outside the structure of the game undermine the business model. The whole microtransaction movement can be seen as accepting the reality gold farmers can't be stopped, so they should be subverted. But engaging the black market in 'race to the bottom' pricing is pointless. The price of a billion inf is a fraction of what it was before my hiatus- given 'workers' with zero protections that can be endlessly exploited, there is no practical bottom to that market.
*rolleyes*
Especially when said services undermine the competitive foundation and thus continuing viability of the games they service.
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