Let's chat seriously about PC Animals...
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AmazingMOO,
Posted on: 2012-04-12 13:43 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
If you'd like, we can both edit this conversation out. |
I think editing it out may be a good idea.
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
That should be better.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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B_I's got a lot invested in people not having options. It's like homophobia, but with yiffing.
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
That should be better.
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In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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That exact phenomenon is actually really common on the internet for whatever reason. For such a small niche behavior it's really gathered a huge amount of negative fame.
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
B_I's got a lot invested in people not having options. It's like homophobia, but with yiffing.
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@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I think because it's such a funny word with a damn weird mental image attached that it's latched on so well.
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
That exact phenomenon is actually really common on the internet for whatever reason. For such a small niche behavior it's really gathered a huge amount of negative fame.
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In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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What are you talking about? I think you're just reading too far into things...|
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
I don't care about your made up facts, LOL.
It's those letters, in that particular combination. I see what you did! Nooooooo... |
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Originally Posted by BenRGamer
And, again, Darkstar, it's not about realism. It's that an animal, using a sword, is just downright stupid.
Now, I'm not against players using the animal model. The shapeshifter AT that was leaked shows it's apparently coming, but the animals are gonna be using natural weapons... not a sword. |
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Post it as many times as you want. Doesn't make it any less ludicrous/stupid.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
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Like I said, it's on the same level of ludicrous as Raiden swordfighting with his feet in a cutscene in MGS4. It just makes you facepalm because swordfights do not work that way.
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Ok, let me get this straight: wanting to keep sword-wielding Sparkledogs out of the game is equivalent to "homophobia"? And people accuse me of hyperbole.... |
Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
B_I's got a lot invested in people not having options. It's like homophobia, but with yiffing.
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I am great with "having options." I do sort of like for the options to make sense within the given framework being discussed: this is where player-created Sparkledogs - and said dogs fighting with mouth-held swords - falls down.
At this point I think what can be reasonably said has already been said; I leave it to the developer's good sense to ensure we maintain at least a semblance of comics-related sensibility in the game. I am confident that they will in fact do so, despite the wilder wishes of some of the playerbase.
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That doesn't make the whole concept any less knuckle-draggingly moronic - quite the opposite |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
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That clip just reinforces the fact that there are actually some things that are so bad, so absurd, so childish, so punishinly stupid, so toe-curlingly embarrassing and so stunningly half-witted that they wouldn't even look good in a comicbook game
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Sort of like how you keep referring to loyalists as Nazis, right?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That doesn't make the whole concept any less knuckle-draggingly moronic - quite the opposite
That clip just reinforces the fact that there are actually some things that are so bad, so absurd, so childish, so punishinly stupid, so toe-curlingly embarrassing and so stunningly half-witted that they wouldn't even look good in a comicbook game |
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Nazis don't belong in a comicbook game?
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Originally Posted by eth_Nargy
Sort of like how you keep referring to loyalists as Nazis, right?
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Fixed.
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Originally Posted by eth_Nargy
Sort of like you, right?
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@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I was gonna write something kinda vague to help you back on the correct path of what I meant, but screw it.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Nazis don't belong in a comicbook game?
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No, I mean how you keep acting towards anyone who tries to defend anything you deem unworthy of your praise. It's pretty annoying. Anything you don't agree with gets a childish insult and an irritating smily face.
And you're calling sword-weilding wolves immature?
Course, you're probably gonna just ignore this post, like you do every other person who tries to call you out, so whatever.
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Originally Posted by BenRGamer
Post it as many times as you want. Doesn't make it any less ludicrous/stupid.
Like I said, it's on the same level of ludicrous as Raiden swordfighting with his feet in a cutscene in MGS4. It just makes you facepalm because swordfights do not work that way. |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That doesn't make the whole concept any less knuckle-draggingly moronic - quite the opposite
That clip just reinforces the fact that there are actually some things that are so bad, so absurd, so childish, so punishinly stupid, so toe-curlingly embarrassing and so stunningly half-witted that they wouldn't even look good in a comicbook game |
It has 3 comments, and the animation is only at the "ok" level - which doesn't really hide the awfulness of the "fight"
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
Kind of hate that I'm on GG's side, but, eh.
Three comments on that page... none even saying they like the dog.
So, yeah... don't know what that whole 'loving it' is about.
Still incredibly ludicrous.
Three comments on that page... none even saying they like the dog.
So, yeah... don't know what that whole 'loving it' is about.
Still incredibly ludicrous.
As it's so wildly popular, I'm assuming that the reason animals fighting with weapons in their mouths isn't seen more often in games is because most games simply can't handle that level of awesomeness.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
The other video has over 1000 comments...and I noticed on the last video, the framerate was a bit wonky, probably because of the system that particular player was using or a variety of other reasons.
But go count how many comments are "Wow, a wolf using a sword? How dumb..." I think it all boils down to, a lot of us CoX players are so hoity toity high-and-mighty that we think our fantasy is better than others'.
It comes with concepts that *might* be copied from other games too, that apparently we're 'Too Good' to 'copy' others...even if only taking inspiration from others...and even to a fault that we'd *deny* options to keep CoH 'pure'.
Count how many players would resist any type of 'shape shifter' that changes into animal forms if we ever get it (>_>). "OMG City of Furries, City of Pets, City of Druids! So lame!"
All things said, I enjoy back-and-forths with GG if only because the more she goes on, the more obnoxious she'll get. I guess it's a defense mechanism...like how I'll get more offensive or possibly start falling into stereotypes like Leo=furry.
*sips tea from rainbow ***** mug*
But yeah, it all comes down to 'my fantasy is better than yours' which, frankly, I can only shrug and say I don't give a crap what you actually think.
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PS: Did you read the video poster's comments? You know..."Awesome boss" and all that?
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Originally Posted by BenRGamer
Kind of hate that I'm on GG's side, but, eh.
Three comments on that page... none even saying they like the dog. So, yeah... don't know what that whole 'loving it' is about. Still incredibly ludicrous. |
As much as I REALLY hate to agree with GG (seriously saying what I think about her and her viewpoint would get me banned from this forum and several forums over such that it would be that harsh).
While the Sif fight is interesting, I can't help but feel that Sif is the weakest boss out of the Dark Souls set for the reason of the sword wielding is just a tad silly when compared to the rest of the tone of the game but this is my personal opinion. This isn't due to the usual things like poor animation, infact the way Sif moves is some of the mose fluid and genuinely canine movements of a canine to ever be included in a game.
I just can't help but feel that Sif should be using that speed and bulk to a greater advantage than he does with the sword.
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If only it was made in Poser, then it'd look superb!
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It has 3 comments, and the animation is only at the "ok" level - which doesn't really hide the awfulness of the "fight"
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It's the videogame version of rule 34 - no matter how idiotic something is, there'll always be people who like it - it's how terrible movies sometimes come close to making their budget back - there's no such thing as something that nobody likes |
Originally Posted by Leo_G
PS: Did you read the video poster's comments? You know..."Awesome boss" and all that?
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Wolves go for the throat, and use their own bodyweight as well as the natural reaction of their target to try and pull away from their bite to tear open a fatal wound - that's what their body shape is the way it is, and why making unnatural movements that go against it is such a dumb idea |
Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
I just can't help but feel that Sif should be using that speed and bulk to a greater advantage than he does with the sword.
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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It's call the rule of cool. Whatever the conceptualist thinks is cool works. Same for huge swords that have no right to be wielded yet alone cut anything, or how mixing guns and swords together somehow functions better than each separately.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It's the videogame version of rule 34 - no matter how idiotic something is, there'll always be people who like it - it's how terrible movies sometimes come close to making their budget back - there's no such thing as something that nobody likes
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We get it, you don't think something is cool. I do. And therefore it will work for me and whomever else thinks it's cool.
But meh, I'm arguing with someone who only has one character concept. Not like anything outside that one dimension will ever be cool.
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@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]