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I never bother getting to level 50. I IO so I don't have to bother getting new enhancements, I don't do sets. I have played for 5 years and have 200 million total influence.

But now I am playing a fire/dark tanker and kb is just killing me. So I now really want a kb protection IO, which means I need to get 2 hero credits so I can buy one.

I need to finish up hero tips then do the first SSA. I'm pretty sure this is the first step to the redside.


 

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200 million? Should be able to buy multiples of that kb io from the market (at least when it's not 2xp weekend.) Or just grab acrobatics and do it the old fashioned way


 

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First, know that you have to have confirmed your Heroic or Villainous alignment at least once before you can claim a Hero or Villain Merit from the SSAs. (It sounds like that is your plan.)

Then, you should know that each character can gain a Hero/Villain Merit the first time they run each of the stories, before they are credited with the once-a-week Merit. So currently, that's potentially 7 Alignment Merits (6 story parts plus 1 weekly) in one day for any character that has already confirmed their alignment, is high enough to complete all of the arcs, and has never completed any of them before.

Just food for thought.


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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth View Post
But now I am playing a fire/dark tanker and kb is just killing me. So I now really want a kb protection IO, which means I need to get 2 hero credits so I can buy one.
The Steadfast Protection: Knockback Protection (which is probably the one Bill was talking about) is so cheap that you can't even buy it with Hero Merits, and can be slotted in any of your resistance powers (and as Fire Armor, you've got a few). It's 75 Reward Merits, which should be fairly easy to come up with. Do 2 Task Forces or a half dozen story arcs, and you should have enough merits. Or just buy one on the market. The level 30 version should be dirt cheap, and the level 10 version (which is the better option if you exemplar a lot) should be 50 million at most. Then again, Double XP could be throwing things out of whack at the moment.

And if Steadfast isn't the one Bill meant, then he'd be talking about the Karma: Knockback Protection, which functions identically, but goes in Defense powers, like Combat Jumping or Weave.

And if you find that the market cost is just too high for you, PM me your global name, and I'll email you a level 10 Steadfast - I have a ton of spares in my base.


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The third kb protection is the Blessing of the Zephyr, which is more expensive because of rarity and the fact that it can be slotted into any pool travel power (hover and combat jumping too). That one is 2 hero merits, maybe that's the one Dug is going for.

But yeah, a Steadfast Protection would be cheaper and pretty easy to slot in fire armor.



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Rolling 10-14 bronze in ae is a pretty easy way to get them as well.(Steadfast that is...)


 

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The OP might also be talking about the Zephyr KB IO, which is more expensive but saves you a slot if you drop it in a travel power (assuming you aren't planning to enhance the travel power for speed or endurance). I believe that one is purchasable with A-merits, and if you are planning a mostly-SO build with just a -KB IO then running tips to confirm your alignment and doing a couple of SSA missions might actually be faster than collecting 75 merits for a Steadfast if you don't do TFs. (Obviously that doesn't apply if you've done enough story arcs to already have 75 merits...)

Though if you aren't going to be buying other IOs I'd just purchase a -KB recipe off the market... 200 mil is more than enough to get even a Zephyr and still afford all the SOs you need. Though on a Fire/Dark Tanker I'd strongly suggest also doing tips and SSAs to snag the Miracle and Numina's recovery uniques, because that will really help your endurance if you aren't using set bonuses. Personally I'd just frankenslot everything and end up with 8-9 SOs worth of enhancement per power for around 10 million inf, but that's just me... if you don't want to fool with the market SOs do work just as well as they ever did.


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I did not know about steadfast protection. when I searched WW I just found the travel one.

So Steadfast goes into a resist power?

now does this always work in a toggle power even if the toggle is off? I found this line very confusing on the wiki

"This enhancement functions as a set bonus and is always on, even if in a toggle that is turned off or even if the power is greyed out because of exemplaring. However, the bonus of this Special IO is turned off if one exemplars more than three levels below the level of the Special IO itself"


 

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Okay, say you have a level 10 steadfast protection IO. It will function as long as you're level 7 or higher. It doesn't matter what power you have it it. If you take Temperature Protection at level 49, stick a level 10 steadfast protection in it, you will still have the knockback protection at level 7.

Now, contrast this with say, Numina's Convalescence: Rec/Regen. If you get a level 50 version of this enhancement and slot it in health, you will always get the bonus it provides. However, if you get Physical Perfection at level 41 and slot Numina's Convalescence: Rec/Regen into it, you'll lose the bonus it provides at level 35.


 

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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth View Post
"This enhancement functions as a set bonus and is always on, even if in a toggle that is turned off or even if the power is greyed out because of exemplaring. However, the bonus of this Special IO is turned off if one exemplars more than three levels below the level of the Special IO itself"
A Level 30 Steadfast Protection, slotted in something like Fire Shield, would work until you exemplared down to level 26 or lower (more than 3 levels below the level of the IO).

A Level 10 Steadfast Protection, slotted in the same power, would work until you exemplared to level 6 or lower.


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dang, I got a level 30 - no wonder they are more expensive at lower levels

I really need a level 10 I guess.

if you spend merit points do you always buy at your level?


 

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No, you always buy at the level you have the slider set at.

Though, the default setting for the slider is three levels above yours. Just slide it to the left.


 

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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth View Post
I never bother getting to level 50. I IO so I don't have to bother getting new enhancements, I don't do sets. I have played for 5 years and have 200 million total influence.

But now I am playing a fire/dark tanker and kb is just killing me. So I now really want a kb protection IO, which means I need to get 2 hero credits so I can buy one.
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
With 200 million influence, you can buy a *STACK* of those IO's. Do *NOT* spend Alignment Merits on cheap junk like that! I put in low bids and let them sit. I have DOZENS AND DOZENS of -knockback IO's in case people in my SG need them. I think my main SG has 40 or so in one of the bins.


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Originally Posted by Ironblade View Post
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
With 200 million influence, you can buy a *STACK* of those IO's. Do *NOT* spend Alignment Merits on cheap junk like that! I put in low bids and let them sit. I have DOZENS AND DOZENS of -knockback IO's in case people in my SG need them. I think my main SG has 40 or so in one of the bins.
I deleted my level 45 with about 11 hero merits. I had not spent any. I just don't care about them.


 

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I deleted my level 45 with about 11 hero merits. I had not spent any. I just don't care about them.

The man is a GENIUS!

Obviously you dont care about them..since here you are..asking how to get them. This thread leaves me shaking my head.


 

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I often just slot 4 Kinetic Crash IOs in a KB power.


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I often just slot 4 Kinetic Crash IOs in a KB power.
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Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
The man is a GENIUS!

Obviously you dont care about them..since here you are..asking how to get them. This thread leaves me shaking my head.
Let me walk you through the steps

1. I have not cared about Hero Points in the past
2. I needed a -kb IO which I planned to get with Hero Points, so I cared about them
3. I was told of a -kb IO which I could buy with influence
4. I bought the -kb IO with influence
5. I now have no use for hero points and once again no longer care about them


 

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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit View Post
My admiration for you knows no bounds.
Because I'm always so pathetically broke relative to the Market that I've found it affordable to use up four slots rather than try to get an over-priced proc?


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Because I'm always so pathetically broke relative to the Market that I've found it affordable to use up four slots rather than try to get an over-priced proc?
What do procs have to do with -KB IOs?


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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Because I'm always so pathetically broke relative to the Market that I've found it affordable to use up four slots rather than try to get an over-priced proc?

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(A) It's not a proc, it's a global. Just to nitpick. >.>

(B) Overpriced? At 10, I see them going from 1.5-3 million. At 50, still under 3 million. Now, while you may not have a million at level 7, for all it does (and probably because of people glutting the market due to that,) that's insanely cheap. That's "New Ferrari for $50, insurance guaranteed to be free for life" cheap.

(C) Overpriced pt. II - take a lowbie into AE, run an arc, burn on bronze rolls. With a decent arc - not farm, just arc - you're almost guaranteed enough tickets for rolls to get that. Sell what you don't use.


 

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
What do procs have to do with -KB IOs?
Everything or nothing depending on your POV. From mine "proc" in the context of IOs is shorthand for "any IO that does something individually other than enhance". In much the same way as some people will refer to a plethora of over-the-counter pain relievers as Aspirin.

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(A) It's not a proc, it's a global. Just to nitpick. >.>

(B) Overpriced? At 10, I see them going from 1.5-3 million. At 50, still under 3 million. Now, while you may not have a million at level 7, for all it does (and probably because of people glutting the market due to that,) that's insanely cheap. That's "New Ferrari for $50, insurance guaranteed to be free for life" cheap.

(C) Overpriced pt. II - take a lowbie into AE, run an arc, burn on bronze rolls. With a decent arc - not farm, just arc - you're almost guaranteed enough tickets for rolls to get that. Sell what you don't use.
Last time I checked (which is admittedly not something I do very often), they were either out of my price range or else lacking in supply. As I recall, the Kinetic Crash recipes I picked up the first time were 10,000 or less apiece. Thus they became my goto.


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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth View Post
I deleted my level 45 with about 11 hero merits. I had not spent any. I just don't care about them.
I have noticed that you say crazy things a lot here for some reason.


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