Protip: SBE Decimation Build-Up proc

What if they made the market IOs the superior versions of the normal ones? So you can still get one b using a catalyst with out nerfing anything

It's currently looking like that it may be using the old damage area mod formula for spherical AoEs, but different values for cone portion of it. Guy is doing some testing for SCIENCE, and not only is Crowd Control proccing at 100% at noted above, but Heavy Burst is proccing about ~10% more often than the estimate.

I had figured that that formula was a shoe-in, just based on "lazy programmers like to re-use code". Darn.

It occurs to me that one really critical test is to find a pair of powers that have the same recharge and AoE, but different target caps, since that variable is *not* present in the hypothetical formula, but Arbiter Hawk indicated that it's being considered for PPM rates.

I wonder how this works with temporary pets.

For example, if I slot Positron's proc into Water Spout, will it have a 100% chance of going off every proc check?

So putting a superior controller ato proc (5ppm) into shadow field which is a psudopet with a continuous effect in a spherical 25ft radius would give:
Proc checks every 10s
60/5 = 12s for 100% proc chance
10/12 = 83.33% proc chance
1 + 25 * (11 * 360 + 540) / 30000 = 4.75 aoe mod
83.33/4.75 = 17.54% chance per check

Putting the same proc is distortion field, a psudopet with a constant effect in a spherical 20 foot radius would give:
Proc checks every 10s
60/5 = 12s for 100% proc chance
10/12 = 83.33% proc chance
1 + 20 * (11 * 360 + 540) / 30000 = 4 aoe mod
83.33/4 = 20.83% chance per check

Water spout has a 7ft spherical radius constant effect, posi=3ppm (thank you blueruckus), giving:
Proc checks every 10s
60/3 = 20s for 100% proc chance
10/20 = 50% proc chance
1 + 7 * (11 * 360 + 540) / 30000 = 2.05 aoe mod
50/2.05 = 24.39% chance per check

Correct?

edit: fixed for posi=3ppm

Posi proc is 3 PPM. Nothing in the store goes over 3 PPM currently.

Awesome. I remember seeing some patch notes a few weeks back regarding attuned Purples. Will be interesting to see how much these sell for. I'd buy the procs for sure.

Ouch that is a bit steep. I would only buy a few of the procs to min/max my main.

I wonder if you'd be able to slot these earlier than level 50. One of the main perks of the SBEs is slotting them early and having them level with you. If not, then I don't see the point as you can +5 boost the normal versions but not these.

We have dev-blessed information provided indirectly through the Beta forums that says the AoE damage adjustment factor is indeed the correct adjustment.

Can we figure out why reported testing does not appear to confirm that, or possibly report a bug? One possibility I considered, based on figuring out what was wrong in testing of my own: are tests allowing for the base PPM calculation exceed 100% chance to proc before dividing by the AoE factor?

In other words, did we try to correlate tested values with:

MAX(1.0,CycleTime/60*PPM/AoE)

or

MAX(1.0,CycleTime/60*PPM)/AoE

?

Uber, that would prevent long-recharge AoEs from ever having a 100% proc chance, and for many they would cap out far lower. This is contrary to observation, so we can pretty safely rule it out.

Yes, several of the spherical AoE tests resulted in an initial calculation that was over 100%, but below 100% once divided by the AoE factor. After division, the calculated rate matched up with the observed rate perfectly. So I think it's safe to say that it's not capped at 100% prior to division.

Indeed some people are seeing 100% per-target proc rates on AoEs with very long recharges.

Semi-related and could have an impact here, confirmed on Dom forums they seem to have fixed the Dom ATO AoE problem.

Since the last patch(?) the +Dam proc seems to be firing as consistently (up to PPM limit) in the AoE power 'Roots' as it does in ST powers like 'Subdue'. Possibly a change in the AoE factors affecting ATO procs but I'll leave that for the number-crunchers to evaluate.

I'm just happy I can get the proc into a power in my attack chain now.