So, the solution to redirect old missions away from old Dark Astoria
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Posted on: 2012-03-11 02:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Heh!! I'm afraid of what Numina TF is like now....
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What? That makes no sense. That IS really poor.
That's really...
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Not only that, but zombies can show up in the Echo version of DA as well. Looks like someone forgot to flip the eligibility switch to "no" there.
And to make things even better.
Echo is accessible from ouroborus, the hero one. Rogues are sent to villain ouroborus and therefore cannot get to echo: dark astoria.
Well thought out there 
Found that out yesterday doing Citadel TF. Thankfully they had mission TP so could get there anyway, but poor design.
I doubt it was by design.
Please /bug it.
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Wait, why wouldn't zombies show up there?
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Originally Posted by Android_5Point9
Not only that, but zombies can show up in the Echo version of DA as well. Looks like someone forgot to flip the eligibility switch to "no" there.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I doubt it was by design.
Please /bug it. |
The mission mechanics still reads the Echo as Dark Astoria the same as how we refer to Dark Astoria as 'new' DA and the Echo as 'old' DA.
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I assume the planning is:
1. we need a fix for the Numina TF for DA
2. well Numina is going to be rewritten sometime in a year starting in 2, so we don't want to do throwaway work now
3. do a quick and easy hack
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
I assume the planning is:
1. we need a fix for the Numina TF for DA 2. well Numina is going to be rewritten sometime in a year starting in 2, so we don't want to do throwaway work now 3. do a quick and easy hack |
4. Profit!
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Did a numina yesterday the DA hunt is removed.
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Originally Posted by Blackleviathan
Heh!! I'm afraid of what Numina TF is like now....
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The DA hunt is in fact gone from Numina? That's a nice start on revamping it.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
Did a numina yesterday the DA hunt is removed.
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So it's really just the door missions from contacts like Citadel that direct you to the echo now?
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I ran a Numina last night and we were not sent to DA. There was no BP hunt. rest of the TF was intact.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
The DA hunt is in fact gone from Numina? That's a nice start on revamping it.
So it's really just the door missions from contacts like Citadel that direct you to the echo now? |
I also completed the Allison King 'Library of souls' arc (actually pretty fun, especially with the 'reveal' power in oranbega) and was sent to echo: DA for one of the missions; I got there and completed it with no trouble as a vigilante.
I can imagine it being a problem for less informed players as there is no indication from the game where echo: DA is.... I guess that's what the help channel is for.
The most pain this has caused me is simply from a plot perspective, wondering about the time-stream implications of traveling to the past not to change the future but to stop a plot that's taking place in the present.
Otherwise, I figured that the developers simply didn't have the time or resources to rewrite all of the old DA focused missions for i22 and would likely handle it in the future. It is pretty neat that they kept a way to get to legacy DA and Galaxy though. Maybe they should add Atlas Park too?
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Well, that and any Rogues on the team being unable to access the echo without a mission teleporter...
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Originally Posted by danomal
I can imagine it being a problem for less informed players as there is no indication from the game where echo: DA is.... I guess that's what the help channel is for.
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Yeah, like Zombie Man said, this sounds like an oversight more than anything. Report it as a bug.
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The most pain this has caused me is simply from a plot perspective, wondering about the time-stream implications of traveling to the past not to change the future but to stop a plot that's taking place in the present.
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I had forgotten that I had a DA mission door when I logged off the night before I22 hit, and when I logged back in, the mission location in the navigation window was "Echo: Dark Astoria." I would guess this problem will be hanging around for a while, at least until all those missions are cleared.
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So is it just kill banished pantheon in Talos now? Is BA totally taken out of the TF all together?
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Originally Posted by Lucky666
Did a numina yesterday the DA hunt is removed.
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Does it really matter? 90% of that TF is hunting down grey cons to waste time. It really needs a revamp.
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Originally Posted by Blackleviathan
So is it just kill banished pantheon in Talos now? Is BA totally taken out of the TF all together?
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Totally taken out, only thing you hunt in talos is warriors like always.
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Originally Posted by Blackleviathan
So is it just kill banished pantheon in Talos now? Is BA totally taken out of the TF all together?
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on an organized team it takes less than 10 minutes. i would much prefer a revamp of synapse's unreasonably repetitive 'kill all clockwork' missions. That TF is ridiculous. I was SO hoping for him to be the one to die...
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Does it really matter? 90% of that TF is hunting down grey cons to waste time. It really needs a revamp.
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Originally Posted by danomal
on an organized team it takes less than 10 minutes. i would much prefer a revamp of synapse's unreasonably repetitive 'kill all clockwork' missions. That TF is ridiculous. I was SO hoping for him to be the one to die...
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Amen to that, synapse is my host hated TF in the game and it's need for the accolade which makes me hate it even more cause I can't ignore it.
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Do the zombie invasions happen in the Galaxy Echo too? It seemed weird since everything else is gutted from the echo zones, so I figured that would be as well.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
Wait, why wouldn't zombies show up there?
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Hmm, I'm posting this not to be argumentative, but just to voice my opinion...
It'd actually make me quite happy to still have missions that direct the player to old Dark Astoria.
And, since these would come at lower levels, it would make sense via the timeline by levels scenario the game roughly (occasionally) attempts to follow.
I'm not sure that this is a horrendous blow to immersion.
However, it could indeed be a mistake.
Certainly the Rogues being blocked from getting there is a mistake/bad-issue.
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is to redirect them to the ECHO of Dark Astoria.
...for pete's sake, really? That is hideously lazy and extremely immersion breaking. They should've redirected everything to one of the actual zones like Talos or even Boomtown or something :P
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