Leveling by TFs Alone


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I was wondering if anyone had ever tried leveling their characters simply by playing TFs and the occasional tip mission? Is this feasible? If so are there any major slumps to look out for?

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Since Death From Below was added in Issue 21, you can level entirely from 1-50 using only trials and TFs, yes. (Prior to i21, you had to get to at least level 10 before you could do any trials or TFs blueside, or 15 redside.)

The only real problem is that you're pretty certain to be repeating content quite a bit... how many Synapse TFs do you think you can stomach in between 15 and 20?


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That was my worry and why I added the caveat of Tips missions. My theory is to start a brand new team and run Sewers to lvl 12 (and DOs). Then Posi 1 and 2. Then do the Midnighter Arc to open up Cim for later. Then Synapse and so on. My hope is to do each TF only once. If somone in the team isn't high enough we do tips or whatever to get them high enough.

By the way, I'm not thinking of doing this all at once mind you but as a set team running once a week or so.


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There'll be the new bloody bay trial for the 15-30 range too.

Just don't do it redside


 

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I did it once on a rad/psy defender a long time ago (before i13 ruined pvp, hence the reason I was leveling a rad/psy). It's a very feasable way to level, especially if you have a friend or two that you can get to do most of them with you. For all intents and purposes, it's not really slower than leveling otherwise (other than powerleveling) and you pick up valuable badges along the way meaning you have less accolading to do at 50.


 

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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
Since Death From Below was added in Issue 21, you can level entirely from 1-50 using only trials and TFs, yes. (Prior to i21, you had to get to at least level 10 before you could do any trials or TFs blueside, or 15 redside.)

The only real problem is that you're pretty certain to be repeating content quite a bit... how many Synapse TFs do you think you can stomach in between 15 and 20?
After XP while exemplared was added, before the switch to New Posi, I had a character that I levelled to 10, and then joined a Posi TF with. By the end, I was 17 or 18. Synapse got me to 22 at least, because I slotted SOs after that. Sister Psyche got me just past 25. Citadel wasn't enough to get me into the next bracket, but I was able to pick up a Hess and Moonfire to get to 30. Manticore and a few Katies got me to 35, Numina finished my TFC, and then I rode the ITF train to 45, where I added in STF and LGTF.

The trick is to actually do the missions, instead of speeding everything. The difficult part is finding people who are willing to actually do the missions instead of speeding everything.


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After XP while exemplared was added, before the switch to New Posi, I had a character that I levelled to 10, and then joined a Posi TF with. By the end, I was 17 or 18. Synapse got me to 22 at least, because I slotted SOs after that. Sister Psyche got me just past 25. Citadel wasn't enough to get me into the next bracket, but I was able to pick up a Hess and Moonfire to get to 30. Manticore and a few Katies got me to 35, Numina finished my TFC, and then I rode the ITF train to 45, where I added in STF and LGTF.

The trick is to actually do the missions, instead of speeding everything. The difficult part is finding people who are willing to actually do the missions instead of speeding everything.
I will agree with your remark about speed running, that's fine if no one needs xp but if you are leveling a character you do need to run basically a kill all to maximize your xp earning.I will be looking for this type of team when DXP hits


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Actually my idea (two of them combined = dangerous) was to make a set team that played once a week or so to do this. We all start at lvl 2 out of the tutorial and do sewers to 12 and DOs. Then on to Posi and up the ladder. Any time we hit a low spot we run radio mishions or tips to fill the gaps.

However I'm not familiar with all of the TFs so I wondered where the gaps might be. This sounds like it might be feasible...I think I'll try it. Thanks gang!


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Leveling by TF's is all I ever do, it's very very rare that I ever do normal missions anymore (cimerora Arc is an exception). My record so far for constant tf's all the way to 50 is 1242 reward merits at the 50, and them reward merits all get spent on random recipe rolls upon reaching 50, which is sort of my reward for getting to 50 and gives me the incentive to keep pushing the alt to 50.


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I will agree with your remark about speed running, that's fine if no one needs xp but if you are leveling a character you do need to run basically a kill all to maximize your xp earning.I will be looking for this type of team when DXP hits
It is possible that I could be wrong - but by my way of thinking, assuming you're on a team that is consistent, (and capable) you're better off speeding. Mission completion bonuses are a sizeable chunk of xp. I would rather do 2 speed itfs than 1 long, kill most itf.


Funny thing is, I've never done an ITF with a sub 50 char, so I might be horribly wrong.

For the OP, I would guess there'd be nothing to stop the group from doing another DFB once they finished Synapse to get them that push to be high enough for Sister. After Sister, they'd be wise to run a Moonfire. (and they'd probably have to to get high enough for Citadel.
After Citadel, you'll be about 27, maybe 28. Defeats and debt for different members of the group will impact things a bit, as well xp boosters and such.

But! Double XP weekend is coming up! Do it in one weekend, hero!


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It is possible that I could be wrong - but by my way of thinking, assuming you're on a team that is consistent, (and capable) you're better off speeding. Mission completion bonuses are a sizeable chunk of xp. I would rather do 2 speed itfs than 1 long, kill most itf.


Funny thing is, I've never done an ITF with a sub 50 char, so I might be horribly wrong.

For the OP, I would guess there'd be nothing to stop the group from doing another DFB once they finished Synapse to get them that push to be high enough for Sister. After Sister, they'd be wise to run a Moonfire. (and they'd probably have to to get high enough for Citadel.
After Citadel, you'll be about 27, maybe 28. Defeats and debt for different members of the group will impact things a bit, as well xp boosters and such.

But! Double XP weekend is coming up! Do it in one weekend, hero!
You can also do Hess, and Katie Hannon late 20's early 30's, also Ouro TF's plus being a Vig/Rogue doubles the amount tf/sf's open to you.


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It is possible that I could be wrong - but by my way of thinking, assuming you're on a team that is consistent, (and capable) you're better off speeding. Mission completion bonuses are a sizeable chunk of xp. I would rather do 2 speed itfs than 1 long, kill most itf.


Funny thing is, I've never done an ITF with a sub 50 char, so I might be horribly wrong.

For the OP, I would guess there'd be nothing to stop the group from doing another DFB once they finished Synapse to get them that push to be high enough for Sister. After Sister, they'd be wise to run a Moonfire. (and they'd probably have to to get high enough for Citadel.
After Citadel, you'll be about 27, maybe 28. Defeats and debt for different members of the group will impact things a bit, as well xp boosters and such.

But! Double XP weekend is coming up! Do it in one weekend, hero!
really depends on what you are playing - speed runs are fine for toons that can handle the extra aggro but on squishies they can mean a lot more debt which will significantly slow levelling. Once you reach higher levels and can pick up defence bunuses from IOs this becomes less of a hindrance as you can choose to slot for defence but on a balanced team and a normal run the melee toons can take that aggro and there is no need to slot for extra defence. On a speed run there is a lot of loose aggro.


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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
Since Death From Below was added in Issue 21, you can level entirely from 1-50 using only trials and TFs, yes. (Prior to i21, you had to get to at least level 10 before you could do any trials or TFs blueside, or 15 redside.)

The only real problem is that you're pretty certain to be repeating content quite a bit... how many Synapse TFs do you think you can stomach in between 15 and 20?
LOL agreed but then to be totally honest.. How many Synapse TFs do you think you need to hit 20?

1. Do at least 4 DFB Trials .. this should get your character to around 14 or 14 and gets you all 4 of the buffs available. They do help out until you hit 22.

2. POSI One and POSI Two .. Just finsihing these after hitting 15 will get you close to 20 depending on how much you attack or how much you skip.

3. Okay NOW do a Synapse... One Synapse just to ensure you eventually wind up with TF commander.. hey may as well get the bonus from that right?

By now you are definately 20 level.

4. Sister Psyche even with stealth should easily get you to around or above level 22.

5. Moonfire has a number of defeat alls and between it and Sister P you should be at or close to level 25.

6. Citadel is now available and and has a number of defeat alls as well so that should get you close to 30.

Your above level 24 so just to add some XP and potential levels why not head to IP and run a First Respec mission? Okay TECHNICALLY not a TF but then neither is DFB.

7. By 30 you can run Mantcore now it starts to get a little tougher cause most people stealth a good bit of that and you need a lot more XP to gain levels in the thirties.. BUT now you can always go back and do Posi 1, Pos 2, Sister P, Moonfire, Hess (if anyone can open it and runs one), and even repeat Citadel and Manticore.. I'd suggest spacing these to ensure you get the full Merit bonuses from each.

One other suggestion.. as long as you have access.. technically all of the SSA arcs are considered TFs so why not join teams running those and again gain more reward merits etc.

8. At 35 run Numina.. frankly its probably only going to get you half a level since way too many of the missions involve defeating 10 or 20 villains that give up no XP at all. So if you truly intend to level by TF only plan to do a LOT more of the lower level TFs to get you through the 30s.

NOW..here is where you get into a grey area... at 35 you can start doing ITFs and they can get you a couple of levels easy BUT you need access to the Midnighter's club. It used to be this could be as easy as joining a "TEAM" when a player finished the arc and was about to chat with the latin Student (so you still wouldn't have actively participated in the arc) but from what I hear they are changing that so you HAVE to participate in the arc to earn the badge and entrance. YOU may need to, if this is true, actually do that one non TF arc to get access to a lot of easy TF XP.

9. hit 45 and run STF, LGTF and just keep doin ITFs until you ding 50.

Don't forget that as of March 6 we get the new DIB Trial that starts at 15 and can be run all the way to 50 so you can easily do that to fill in any gaps.


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I'm working on a new scrapper that I intend to level only through street sweeping, TFs/trials, and tip and scanner missions. However... I will not repeat content. I did the sewer trial once.


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You can also do Hess, and Katie Hannon late 20's early 30's, also Ouro TF's plus being a Vig/Rogue doubles the amount tf/sf's open to you.
Sadly, Hess and Katie have to be unlocked via non-tf story arcs. So, that would eliminate those options, given the criteria by the OP.


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Sadly, Hess and Katie have to be unlocked via non-tf story arcs. So, that would eliminate those options, given the criteria by the OP.
You only need to unlock it to start the TF. You can join it without unlocking it.
That would be more applicable to ITF as you need to do the mish to gain access to Cim


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I have no problem stepping out of the TF tree to get xps so if we hit a dead zone we can run other stuff for a level or two.

I usually run the Midnighter Arc right after DFB because I have way too many toons that were over 35 when the Midnighter Arc was created. I forget which ones have the badge and which ones don't and then when I try to join an ITF...DOH shut out! I hate that. So I include the Arc in my list of must-haves early on.

Although Wendy's comment about TF commander rings true...don't mind that at all.


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NOW..here is where you get into a grey area... at 35 you can start doing ITFs and they can get you a couple of levels easy BUT you need access to the Midnighter's club. It used to be this could be as easy as joining a "TEAM" when a player finished the arc and was about to chat with the latin Student (so you still wouldn't have actively participated in the arc) but from what I hear they are changing that so you HAVE to participate in the arc to earn the badge and entrance. YOU may need to, if this is true, actually do that one non TF arc to get access to a lot of easy TF XP.
This is live already for some time now. Everyone will have to do the Midnighter Arc, that is, talk to contact and run thru the missions. Don't forget to enable shared mission completion.


 

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Actually my idea (two of them combined = dangerous) was to make a set team that played once a week or so to do this. We all start at lvl 2 out of the tutorial and do sewers to 12 and DOs. Then on to Posi and up the ladder. Any time we hit a low spot we run radio mishions or tips to fill the gaps.

However I'm not familiar with all of the TFs so I wondered where the gaps might be. This sounds like it might be feasible...I think I'll try it. Thanks gang!
We have a group on Infinity that runs through the Task Force Commander TFs - for leveling as well as the accolade - every Tuesdasy evening. It's good XP since we are all agreed that we are running for more than speed rewards. Of course, we have stealthed a couple of those monotonous "Kill the Boss" or "find the glowy" missions in Sis P or Citadel - I mean, come on, how many times do you need to tour the same Council base, amirite?

I usually can't level a new character just on those after Citadel level, but with Moonfire & Hess thrown in, and maybe an ITF after 35 (remember you need to run Castanello's arc to unlock that), I can make the 40s to do the late game TFs.


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For Katie and Hess, run the Mission Arcs for Striga, good xp there. The stories are all somewhat linked to the lore of Striga, so kind of like a TF.

Mission arcs give out rewards and merits, depending on the ones you run. Look into those. Plus, if one is the WST, the XP bonus at the end is great.


 

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It's odd nobody has mentioned running Admiral Sutter's TF which is available from level 20-40.


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That's cuz Sutter sucks. :P

Mortimer Kal is a valid option, though, and available in the same range.


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Oh... I actually enjoyed Admiral Sutter's TF. I guess I'm in the minority there.

I do love Mortimer Kal though, thats one of my favorite TF/SF


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Oh... I actually enjoyed Admiral Sutter's TF. I guess I'm in the minority there.
Not necessarily. When it's the WST, I see far mor Sutters than Kals. I was just joking based on my personal opinion - I don't care for Sutter at all.

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I do love Mortimer Kal though, thats one of my favorite TF/SF
Kal is a very well done SF. It's my second favourite TF/SF in the game, after Tarikoss, and just slightly above Lady Grey.


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I actually did this with occassional story arcs. I was just going for Hero Accolades and by the time I was done with one TF, I was in level for another. I was using XP boosts as well if you want to factor that in.