Brute proc is the shizzle

This just in ... pylon tested my TW/SR with the new Brute proc & set (catalyzed) and it shaved basically 1 minute off my pylon time, pushing me to 345-355dps. Dang! This set is a must have on all brutes.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...postcount=2195

I agree. It saved my ss/dark brute.

My fear aura prevented fury from building properly, but kept me alive (and kept them in range, as opposed to oppressive gloom).

Add in this proc, and im 90+ on my fury bar, and WOW! New love for my brute!

I have not tried the proc yet myself..
How does it work? Is it more fury in that attack..or all of them?
Also..I read your analysis of the Pylon, and accept it DID help. But, in ordinary bruting, it is dead easy to sit at 80% fury the entire time. Is the extra really that noticeable? Honestly mind you..not just cause its a new shiny. lol

I got my brutes fury to go up to 100%, if only briefly, Iv'e never seen that before.

Have the six slots in blazing aura.

I have to say this is very nice.

I agree, all brutes need this set.

now if we could only get an extra free slot granted.

I ultra despise the respec process.

edit: that 100% is not correct. I respec'd into a more survivable build. The highest I have been able to proc my fury was 89% <still higher than norm> I think my mouse might have slipped over my end bar, leading me to believe that it went 100%.

edit2: further weighing it out and testing, this set is only good for the set bonuses. not for the fury generation proc. good thing I went to test it on beta before getting all expensive on live.

Slotted it in foot stomp on my farmer

Ran to some low level baddies nearby

Foot stomped and full fury.


I'm maintaining 100% fury all the time, which is like 2 small reds on perma compared to before.

Sounds like it's better to stick in aoes. Stuck mine in followup and the only time I peg 100% is against really hard targets.

Seriously tempted to go back to my max recharge build so that I can chain fu/focus/slash instead of fu/focus/slash/swipe... but that's a tough call. I like all the extra HP I have now.

edit: However, I haven't buffed my set yet; still sitting with all the base values.

a couple of questions since I ahve been away for a little while.

Are the enhancements you get from orosboros different from the ones you get at the market? The ones in oros have a minimal level of 47 is why I ask.

aoe vrs single target? (haymaker or footstomp on my ss/sd?)

Thanks.

Ice Ember

The difference between 75% fury and 100% fury is a 50% dmg buff, which is nice, but you have to realize you're still working with off of the not so hot Brute damage modifiers. For comparison (albeit not a great one) t4 musculature core tends to be a 25-35% dmg buff in attacks with typical slotting. It's a pretty well known consensus that Musculature is never a good choice on a Brute, granted that is comparing the entire alpha slot to a single enhancement slot.

What really makes the Brute ATO amazing is when you split it 3/3 you get 6% hp and 10% S/L defense for 6 slots. In comparison 3 sets of kinetic combats gives you 4.5% hp and 11.25% S/L defense, except that it takes 12 slots. Basically by switching out 3 sets of kinetic combats for 1 set of Brute ATOs you're saving SIX slots. Six slots is alot. Six slots can mean another purple set, and considering the Brute ATO only takes 2 powers instead of the 3 powers that kinetic combats takes to get similar bonuses you will probably have room for that set and still have 2 more extra slots to work with after that.

yeah I put it in shadow punch in my DM/INV brute, with the recharge it has and as often as I use it in my attack chain it goes off pretty regularly...I had my fury bar somewhere up around 90-95% the other night in an itrial...it was awesome...full saturation for soul drain...and lots of baddies in the cone for shadow maul...that was LOTS of fun...

I could've swore I read some redname posting that the proc doesn't work as you guys are describing. If I remember correctly, the proc is supposed to fire depending on the base recharge of the power, so that, in essence, it goes off roughly the same amount of times per minute no matter what power it's in.

ie. slotted in Punch (fast recharge) it'll proc less often than, say, slotted in Knockout Blow (long recharge). In either power it'll average out firing off roughly the same number of times in a timeframe. And it certainly won't proc more often in an AoE...

But, what you guys are saying seems to contradict all that. I'll see if I can find the redname post I read...

Found the quote

You're correct, Socorro. It will fire the same number of times in any given timeframe, no matter what power it's slotted in, as long as that power is used as frequently as it recharges. But most powers do not meet that final condition. Also, it behaves differently in AoEs, we're not exactly sure how yet. I have it in Burn, and it appears to proc multiple times per cast (my Fury bar jumps 20+ points if I use Burn when I'm surrounded by enemies), which I had thought was fixed during beta, but apparently not, or maybe Burn is special somehow and gets around the fix.

I bet you're right. The point is, we don't fully understand how the procs work in AoEs, in even a general sense, much less for this proc specifically.

My 2 cents on the matter disscussed. Lets look at the Force Feedback chance For Recharge proc, it has a better chance to proc off in Footstomp because of the amount of Villains it hits per mob ... meaning it procs off much higher versus putting it into Knockout Blow which hits one villain per attack. Chances are it won't proc as much as it would in Footstomp because it hits multiple villains within a mob therefor increasing the chance to proc.

Yes?

Well, I purpled my Brute Fury Proc last night and took it out for a spin. It's supposed to add 7 pts of Fury when it procs, right?

But when I looked in the combat stats in chat tray, it said 6.3 Fury added when it procced. What's up with that?

My fire armor brutes have the proc in their blazing aura, stone brutes have the proc in mudpots, electric brutes have it in lightning field. It works very nicely in those powers and I've seen the fury bonus. Also the majority of my brutes are splitting the ATO set in 2 powers due to the S/L bonus.

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