Rumors about the ressurection of Marcus Cole.
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So wait... isn't T'keron Valmaz YOUR character? YOUR character is the only one everyone can turn to?
Holy freaking god, dude. I don't care if this is an RP event on Virtue, if you present the server with "MY character killed Statesman, and MY character knew this would happen since thousands of years ago, and MY character is the only person who can help you all", I can't tell you how many people will laugh in your face.
We all got the opportunity to watch Statesman die. But guess what? Wade was the one who took Statesman's life. Not you. Not me. Not the players. And the ONLY person who knew all this would come to pass was Wade, or whomever is giving Wade his plan.
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Hmmm...something to remember with things like this, is it's generally RP that is limited to a more self contained group or just yourself.
More so when the devs themselves havent made any such storylines to say this might be a possibility.
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So wait... isn't T'keron Valmaz YOUR character? YOUR character is the only one everyone can turn to?
Holy freaking god, dude. I don't care if this is an RP event on Virtue, if you present the server with "MY character killed Statesman, and MY character knew this would happen since thousands of years ago, and MY character is the only person who can help you all", I can't tell you how many people will laugh in your face. We all got the opportunity to watch Statesman die, dude. But guess what? Wade was the one who took Statesman's life. Not you. Not me. Not the players. And the ONLY person who knew all this would come to pass was Wade, or whomever is giving Wade his plan. |
Really. How many people discovered Hero One got riktified?
I'd say that's very likely why the devs go the route of "these events happened, but this is how it played out in canon" like Recluse getting his hands on Reichsman's device.
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Don't many tend to laugh when they do the whole "I was a part of this event!" when it comes to RP anyways?
Really. How many people discovered Hero One got riktified? I'd say that's very likely why the devs go the route of "these events happened, but this is how it played out in canon" like Recluse getting his hands on Reichsman's device. |
I don't make my characters directly involved in canon story. I let the canon shape my experiences, since I have absolutely no control over the game's lore. The only times I don't conform to canon are during... most of the old villain arcs, since all the villain contacts treat you like dirt and behave like they're made of solid gold.
The newer storylines (RWZ and newer) I just roll with the tide.
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This is just more signs that Demetrios is in his own little world.
Mind you, his handle?
Dr. Vahzilok's name before becoming Dr. V
I usually do the 'word of mouth' approach. "Man, you hear about Hero One? Yeah? Sad stuff. If I'd known he'd been with the Rikti all these years..."
I don't make my characters directly involved in canon story. I let the canon shape my experiences, since I have absolutely no control over the game's lore. The only times I don't conform to canon are during... most of the old villain arcs, since all the villain contacts treat you like dirt and behave like they're made of solid gold. The newer storylines (RWZ and newer) I just roll with the tide. |
My main being a product of a rogue group within longbow doesn't really effect canon.
Saying she is the daughter of Statesman and Lady Grey would effect canon.
Saying Synapse has hit on her, doesn't effect canon. Saying they're dating does.
Now...when it's just a character I have no plans to RP outside of my own little imagination...sky's the limit!
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I went to Fort Trident today and bought Statesman a coffee. Then I went to I.P. and he asked me to go to the Rogue Isles for him. True Story
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Ah good times, I love the hostility that a lack of understanding breeds within others.
Im pretty sure I prefaced this with it just being an RP idea froma specific server I thought maybe, with all the hoopla on the forums about States death, and no few offering up ideas on how to bring him back Id toss in mine. Since it wasnt an open RP forum story or anything I figured general discussion was as viable a spot to place it as the RP section. Pardon me if that is just so offensive to the non RPers.
The contempt some feel for Lore Based RP is nothing new, nor is Lore RPing. Just about all the good names and concepts where scooped up in year one, least those connected with early content from Dauntless to Atlas with an i for the L. The desire for myself and the vast majority who choose to run characters like this is simply to be more integrated into the games plots. Why some take such offence to this I never really do understand.
Maybe we are arrogent though in that we do hope that Devs really do play this game as fellow players often, we hope they may be among us on occasion and take note of the affection thier players have for the story of the world they have created. Maybe we even hope some of what we do is taken notice enough to inspire the Devs in turn and give them story ideas easy to weave into the current game world.
Sure BB is my character on virtue, I know from attempts others must have used the name on a few other servers at least so its not like its a magically difficult name to get an idea for a character from. I mean he is one of the few immortals in COX lore and a magician who helped to found the midnighters. Outside of a few very old story arcs where he is used as a npc hostage he is a forgotten and oft unsung hero imo. My only intent when running him has ever been to help other newer players to understand simple ways to improve the quality of thier play time or run quick TFs where all are welcomed if of the min lvl range and up for a smooth painless run.
And ofcourse my rp is my little world still I mean is that news that pretty much every RPer has a unique view of how they explain the world. Nothing at all wrong with tieing yourself to an occasional bit of content. Most I know rarely get into an argument about a given moment, most just stay flexible and let whoever mentions one first in a given topic rights to it.
Sure we dont all need to be the guy who ran the posi, or the lgtf etc but some of us had to, if your chatting with a stranger who maybe for the first time ever ran a tf and it was fun and he is just itching to talk about it from an IC perspective, are you going to shout them down for talking like it was them who helped synapse stop the clockwork king?
As always nowhere did I ever attempt to imply I was some end all be all, nor did I only include names of concept characters I run. I simply offered up a view using game lore fueled ideas and characters. Characters that would in the lore be among the most logical to be the actual canon heroes confronting wade. Even the Lord of Demons fused with a human and exiled to primal earth would have great reason and power to intercede on humanities behalf just as he did to save earth from Tielekku so long ago.
If you can look past your needless hate for a fellow fan of the game we all play for a moment just follow the basic plot outline.
A group of midnighters lead by Bentley Berkeley thier oldest living member and almost certainly the teacher to people like Wade, confronts him. Wade is after all clearly following the Path of The Dark, the cult of Rularuu, and in lore the group Berkeley has been keeping earth safe from for who know's how long.
They are allied with one of the most mysterious and shadowy figures of coh lore where magic is concerned to gather the means and knowledge to attempt to stop Wade, but are to late to save statesman.
Using the alignment arcs BB confronts his evil future self, then going red side aquires the flames of prometheus, well known to be able to rekindle power. Combined with a variant of our newly learned ritual of ressurection, and fueled by the selfless sacrifice of an immortal long weary of watching those he has known grow old and die, he gives life to the young icon that is marcus cole, now free of the will of the well, to be the hero the world needs.
Hell ill go delete my characters named that IOs and all if it will chill you sour pusses out and take it for the light hearted fun it was intended to be.
I guess its true what they say, cox is really going to the wowtards these days who can only see numbers, cookie cutter builds, and spew hate on anyone who actually likes the game enough to be a part of it.
Ah good times, I love the hostility that a lack of understanding breeds within others. |
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I guess its true what they say, cox is really going to the wowtards these days who can only see numbers, cookie cutter builds, and spew hate on anyone who actually likes the game enough to be a part of it.
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I was going to actually reply to your post in sincerity until I read that little gem.
Oh hell, I wholeheartedly agree with Venture, a man I never agree with.
Man, this co-op writing is really starting to bleed into the other aspects of the game.
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Hell ill go delete my characters named that IOs and all if it will chill you sour pusses out and take it for the light hearted fun it was intended to be.
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Ah good times, I love the hostility that a lack of understanding breeds within others. ... I guess its true what they say, cox is really going to the wowtards these days who can only see numbers, cookie cutter builds, and spew hate on anyone who actually likes the game enough to be a part of it. |
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Ah good times, I love the hostility that a lack of understanding breeds within others.
Im pretty sure I prefaced this with it just being an RP idea froma specific server I thought maybe, with all the hoopla on the forums about States death, and no few offering up ideas on how to bring him back Id toss in mine. Since it wasnt an open RP forum story or anything I figured general discussion was as viable a spot to place it as the RP section. Pardon me if that is just so offensive to the non RPers. The contempt some feel for Lore Based RP is nothing new, nor is Lore RPing. Just about all the good names and concepts where scooped up in year one, least those connected with early content from Dauntless to Atlas with an i for the L. The desire for myself and the vast majority who choose to run characters like this is simply to be more integrated into the games plots. Why some take such offence to this I never really do understand. Maybe we are arrogent though in that we do hope that Devs really do play this game as fellow players often, we hope they may be among us on occasion and take note of the affection thier players have for the story of the world they have created. Maybe we even hope some of what we do is taken notice enough to inspire the Devs in turn and give them story ideas easy to weave into the current game world. Sure BB is my character on virtue, I know from attempts others must have used the name on a few other servers at least so its not like its a magically difficult name to get an idea for a character from. I mean he is one of the few immortals in COX lore and a magician who helped to found the midnighters. Outside of a few very old story arcs where he is used as a npc hostage he is a forgotten and oft unsung hero imo. My only intent when running him has ever been to help other newer players to understand simple ways to improve the quality of thier play time or run quick TFs where all are welcomed if of the min lvl range and up for a smooth painless run. And ofcourse my rp is my little world still I mean is that news that pretty much every RPer has a unique view of how they explain the world. Nothing at all wrong with tieing yourself to an occasional bit of content. Most I know rarely get into an argument about a given moment, most just stay flexible and let whoever mentions one first in a given topic rights to it. Sure we dont all need to be the guy who ran the posi, or the lgtf etc but some of us had to, if your chatting with a stranger who maybe for the first time ever ran a tf and it was fun and he is just itching to talk about it from an IC perspective, are you going to shout them down for talking like it was them who helped synapse stop the clockwork king? As always nowhere did I ever attempt to imply I was some end all be all, nor did I only include names of concept characters I run. I simply offered up a view using game lore fueled ideas and characters. Characters that would in the lore be among the most logical to be the actual canon heroes confronting wade. Even the Lord of Demons fused with a human and exiled to primal earth would have great reason and power to intercede on humanities behalf just as he did to save earth from Tielekku so long ago. If you can look past your needless hate for a fellow fan of the game we all play for a moment just follow the basic plot outline. A group of midnighters lead by Bentley Berkeley thier oldest living member and almost certainly the teacher to people like Wade, confronts him. Wade is after all clearly following the Path of The Dark, the cult of Rularuu, and in lore the group Berkeley has been keeping earth safe from for who know's how long. They are allied with one of the most mysterious and shadowy figures of coh lore where magic is concerned to gather the means and knowledge to attempt to stop Wade, but are to late to save statesman. Using the alignment arcs BB confronts his evil future self, then going red side aquires the flames of prometheus, well known to be able to rekindle power. Combined with a variant of our newly learned ritual of ressurection, and fueled by the selfless sacrifice of an immortal long weary of watching those he has known grow old and die, he gives life to the young icon that is marcus cole, now free of the will of the well, to be the hero the world needs. Hell ill go delete my characters named that IOs and all if it will chill you sour pusses out and take it for the light hearted fun it was intended to be. I guess its true what they say, cox is really going to the wowtards these days who can only see numbers, cookie cutter builds, and spew hate on anyone who actually likes the game enough to be a part of it. |
No.
None of us are WoWTards. We're respectable people who aren't taking this game's lore into our own demented hands. We're adjusting our characters to it, not adjusting it to us.
Your characters are -NOTHING- compared to the big guns (Well, technically? We're now more powerful then the FP and all them). You are just another hero or villain to the plenty out there.
You play canon named characters? Cool. I've seen a Vambrace and a Maiden Justice who could just blow your demented head out of the water with how well they were played and how they adjusted the characters to the lore, not the lore to them.
Statesman is DEAD. D-E-A-D. NO ONE can change that until the Devs say otherwise. You can write whatever twisted story you want, but in all lore rights? Marcus Cole of Primal Earth is dead as ever.
There is NOTHING called Lore RP. Its just a sad excuse for people like you to twist a world that is not yours to some messed up fantasy.
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I was hoping this was a thread to *spread* rumors of Cole's resurrection.
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For what it's worth, people like the OP are exactly why I don't RP in MMOs.
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Although this is technically RP limited to Virtue I thought Id share it with the whole community.
With the death of the Icon of Paragon City many have cried out it cant be so. That there must be some way to return him to us all.
Ofcourse none of us know what happened that day on the mountaintop. Only those of the Midnighter's Club who were there to stop the upstart member bore witness to the end of Statesman.
Those among the witnesses included http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Montague_Castanella
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Sigil
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Percy_Winkley
Duncan Silver aka Doctor Darkvine son of the late:http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Ross_Coldwell
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Ashley_McKnight
Bentley Berkeley
Monolith Man son of The Monolith
And the most controversial ally in thier quest to stop Wade, T'Keron Valmaz, the Unholy Lord of Demons himself.
It was he who captured the last breath of Marcus Cole. He crystalized it and gave it as a pendant to Numina in his constant effort to win her affections.
Berkeley set out on the quest to aquire the Ritual he would need when the demon lord revealed such magic existed and knowledge of it could be found among the library of Orenbega.
Within him for thousands of years he had carried knowledge of a prophecy, that in time a new hero like Imperious would come to pass, and through treachery be brought low while his fated foe would be left unchecked.
The immortal also knew he would have to do something seemingly mad and delve into his own darkness to create a new future he could travel to and confront an evil version of himself. Slaying the false god he was now bound to inevitably become he aquired the Flames of Prometheus he himself would in time have stolen to amplify his power.
Traveling back into the present Berkeley prepared the rare components his friends had sought out.
The remains of a dead god, the coins placed upon the eyes of Imperious during his burial, combined with those things he had gathered where prepared, and the Ritual was cast.
He payed a coin and summoned the ferryman, slit both wrists and consencrated the divine remains, and sighed the final breath of an immortal life. You see that Old Fool Berkeley was keeping the dark of it to himself and knew that to bring back someone like cole was going to take alot more oomph then a typical final breath.
Ol Berkeley let loose with a psychic tornado that left Zeus in a whirl and yanked Cole by the collar heading for the ferry. He put the mortal soul on the ferry and payed the last coin and sent his old friend back on his way to the waking world.
Now rumors abound that a mortal and nearly powerless Marcus Cole stalks the streets of Paragon. A changed man, barely like the arrogent tyrant state that ruled through intimidation for so long.
And now many a student of the arcane and history of Paragon mourns the loss of thier oldest teacher, the humble Bentley Berkeley.