Ever feel like you're insignificant? Well...don't look at this...


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can't wait to wreck it all


 

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Certainly puts things into perspective.


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Wow.


I don't have any other words than that.



 

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Well, if I'm ~10^27 times smaller than the largest things, but ~10^35 times larger than the smallest things...

I'm above average! Woooooo, go me! And since VY Canis Majoris doesn't usually post on these forums, I don't have to worry too much about being trumped here.

Similarly: if I'm ~10^35 times bigger than the most basic units of the universe, I must be equally more important!

...ok, fine, the humility angle is good too.


 

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Size matters not...


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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There are many other Powers of Ten websites out there, but this one may have just become my favorite. Thank you.

I have been deeply interested in Cosmology for years. Since the first night I managed, after several hours, to focus a cheap telescope on Jupiter, and then, later, Saturn. I can't remember what possessed me to do that; I think I had come home early from a party and was bored. I had always imagined the giant planet Jupiter to be turning very slowly. Seeing those wide bands of clouds turn and turn so quickly was a surprise. There wasn't much color, because of all the light being reflected off the clouds, but I was seeing this other world for real, with my own eyes, from my parents driveway. Then, the best part happened. I saw a small round black spot appear on one of the bands. It was a shadow, followed by the small moon casting it, slowly revolving across my view. This really affected me, because for the first time, I was no longer just living in the world; I was living in the Universe.

Probably that same month, I laid on my car hood and for the first time just let it all sink in. That "Space is big..." truism. Space, the universe, my tiny mind, swallowed up by all those stars and inky blackness. Surprisingly, it was one of the most calming feelings I had ever experienced. All of my problems shrank into small specks, almost nothingness. The great thing is that it wasn't just a feeling, but was also an entirely scientific observation.

A few years later I was using programs like Celestia, and a better telescope, to look at planets, stars, and galaxies. But unlike so many other firsts in life, those original sensations are still with me. The more I learn about the Universe, the more expansive it becomes. I feel like I have a pretty nice command of the English language, but simply can't explain to you how big the Universe feels to me. The more I've learned about it, the less I've been able to wrap my mind around it.

What's cool is, without that wall of text, I wouldn't be playing City of Heroes. Astronomy and cosmology got me interested in a sub-genre of science fiction called hard science fiction, often written by scientists themselves, to help explain how colonization of other worlds might really happen. Eventually, you know, I needed some lighter reading. At that point, I was really only a couple of years and a few steps away from comic books, but I would have called you nuts if you said it.

*Looks up at long rambling post.*

Well, I couldn't sleep.


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well if it makes you feel any better, less insignificant, the brain has so many connections that the formations that it can take outnumber the atoms (possibly particles) in the universe. So your brain is technically more amazing than the universe in some respects... but then it exists within the universe so >.>


 

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Well, in defense of insignificance (), that is like pointing out that there are billions more possible phone numbers than there are phones on Earth. Those possibilities haven't occurred and don't exist, while all the atoms of the universe do exist. And you're probably discounting quantum particles, which may outnumber themselves many times over (no, that's not a typo, it's weird science [Edit: I'm being silly here, but I wouldn't be surprised if some physicists might say this was a valid enough way of looking at it]).

You hold the Universe at a disadvantage when you make a contest between possible outcomes, and outcomes that actually exist. That's not a fair contest! For example, the number of possible connections in existing human brains is hugely dwarfed by the number of atoms that could have formed out of various energy-to-matter reactions that were quite possible, but didn't occur.

P.S. Unless they did occur, somewhere else, and unless all of those possible neural synaptic connections do exist, somewhere out there; in which case our entire Universe might be insignificant!


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Well, considering some of the theories about the multiverse, our universe is immensely insignificant.



 

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Look at the size of that giant earthworm O.o. Longer then a human didn't even know they got that big.

also Minecraft world LOL


 

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Also what would happen just theoretically speaking if we could instantly teleport to the edge of the universe? Well nothing the universe would just grow as it expands at a faster rate then the speed of light itself can move. But what's beyond that say you could move even faster theoretically speaking cause we all that's impossible cause they faster we move the greater our mass.

Anyways that's a ramble I believe beyond our universe is other universes add infinity which also means everything that can happens happens times infinity.


 

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Very clever and brilliantly executed.

I knew Minecraft was big but I didn't know it was that big (bigger than Neptune).


 

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Also what would happen just theoretically speaking if we could instantly teleport to the edge of the universe? Well nothing the universe would just grow as it expands at a faster rate then the speed of light itself can move. But what's beyond that say you could move even faster theoretically speaking cause we all that's impossible cause they faster we move the greater our mass.

Anyways that's a ramble I believe beyond our universe is other universes add infinity which also means everything that can happens happens times infinity.
I think about this sometimes, and it makes my head want to explode, but in a good way (frustrating but exciting). I doubt our universe is expanding into a nothingness. I've doubted this ever since physicists started playing around with the mathematics, regarding the notion that we ever might be able to create a universe in a lab. Much of the math shows that it wouldn't exist for long before expanding into its own space. Much, much less than a second. But what does that mean? Where would its own space be?

I think it's more likely that our universe or multiverse is spreading over or through some kind of structure. Not empty nothingness, but something that exists; even if it doesn't follow the laws of physics within our own universe. But this inevitably leads to the question, "Well, what kind of space does THAT structure exist in?" Doesn't there, at some point, have to exist a barrier beyond which only nothingness exists? Maybe, maybe not. But that isn't the most pertinent question for physicists. We take our existence for granted. But, reasonably speaking, if there ever was a nothingness at all, at any point, then the existence of anything at all makes no sense whatsoever! How is it possible that you're even reading this?


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Nah, didn't make me feel insignificant... but the cake was tasty.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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There wasn't much color, because of all the light being reflected off the clouds, but I was seeing this other world for real, with my own eyes, from my parents driveway.
I know that feeling. Even a cheapo telescope can show you all sorts of great stuff and will most likely thrill you with the knowledge that you're seeing the light from another world - not a picture but the real thing.

Some years ago I had such a telescope and pulled it out at a slow party and aimed it at the moon. I was showing it to different people and I remember one woman was just agog at that simple view, she kept going on about how amazing it was and said something like "why don't they tell people this?!" Not that she was stupid or anything but she just had never realized how easy it is to plunk down a yard-long tube with a couple of lenses and see so much.

I really need to get another telescope, I don't have that one any more and my newer one gone messed up in a move.


 

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I agree that it's a wondrous thing to have a telescope. I currently only have my dad's 40+ year old 6" refractor but watching Jupiter for a week this last year reminded me and filled me with awe at just how fast Jupiter's satellites move around it.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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well if it makes you feel any better, less insignificant, the brain has so many connections that the formations that it can take outnumber the atoms (possibly particles) in the universe. So your brain is technically more amazing than the universe in some respects... but then it exists within the universe so >.>
Actually, this is a myth. There's something on the order of 1 billion neurons (10^11) and 100 trillion (10^14) connections in the human brain (some have more, some have less).

The estimated number of atoms in the universe is something along the lines of one sesvigintillion (10^81) to ten septemvigintillion (10^85).



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Nah, didn't make me feel insignificant... but the cake was tasty.
Definitely. But then, you're one hoopy frood.


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This makes me want to have a drink.

A strong one.

Like Dragon's Breath or a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.
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definitely. But then, you're one hoopy frood.
woot!


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It's a great big universe, and we're all really puny.
We're just tiny little specks, about the size of Mickey Rooney.
It's big and black and inky, and we are small and dinky.
It's a big universe and we're not.


 

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to quote a famous book.

Space is big, really really big.


"And for us this is the end of all stories, and we can mostly say they lived happily ever after. But for them it was the beginning of the real story. All there life in this world and all there adventures in Narnia had only be the cover and the title page: now at last they were beginning Chapter One of The Great Story which no one on earth has ever read: which goes on forever: in which every chapter is better than the one before" - C.S Lewis, The Last Battle.