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Wow, kinda disappointed with Positron's godlike ascent. Also, disappointed with the whole, "Be Positron's Lackey" feel coming off the video. Weird.


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Hey, guess Back Alley Brawler's back in the Freedom Phalanx now!

Oops.

Also, Numina is not a ghost.

Oops.


 

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I didn't quite get a "be Posi's lackey" vibe from just this video.
But then again they do say absolute power corrupts absolutely - maybe it's only a matter of time.


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Two things I want point out.

1. He's going over Positron's abilities.

"He's tough, because he's covered in armor."

Yes he is. Because being a dev, you can give him that quality, even though he's a Defender and they're far from armored. How do you think players feel about that kind of thing?

Because I think that is why there's a lot of resentment for the signature characters. Because here is your Iron Man analog, and he can be armored, and get radiation powers and mez protection and whatever and be powerful, and player characters can't.


2. When they talked about Statesman losing his wife (3:15) , they cut to an in game shot of what could be Monica Richter, with an 'angelic' aura. Maybe they're going to have her beckon Statesman into the afterlife in his big final cutscene?


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2. When they talked about Statesman losing his wife (3:15) , they cut to an in game shot of what could be Monica Richter, with an 'angelic' aura. Maybe they're going to have her beckon Statesman into the afterlife in his big final cutscene?
Statesman = Goku?


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Hey, guess Back Alley Brawler's back in the Freedom Phalanx now!

Oops.
Really.

Hey, Positron. Remember when you asked how we ever got the idea that BAB was a member of the Freedom Phalanx? The answer then is as it is now: From you and the other Devs.

But, besides that poke with a stick... thanks for the Vidoc.


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At this point, it's a "Do as we say, not as we do" thing, with regard to BaBs and the Phalanx. Which is like a lot of this game.


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1. He's going over Positron's abilities.

"He's tough, because he's covered in armor."

Yes he is. Because being a dev, you can give him that quality, even though he's a Defender and they're far from armored. How do you think players feel about that kind of thing?

Because I think that is why there's a lot of resentment for the signature characters. Because here is your Iron Man analog, and he can be armored, and get radiation powers and mez protection and whatever and be powerful, and player characters can't.
Well, players who don't have narrow AT constructs, like you, don't really care.

Furthermore, the signature characters always had access to powerset combos that players never had... until Incarnates and IOs. Now you can have a mostly soft-cap Defender who can sometimes boost Defense to over 120% on their own. Or a Melee character with a Nuke. We're now in their league... which was the whole point of the Vidoc and the thrust of the SSA.


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How do you think players feel about that kind of thing?
They don't really care?


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Regarding BaBs:

It's one thing to play fast and loose with the lore so your creativity isn't limited.
It's another thing entirely to do so because you couldn't be bothered.

I think, a true creative type would capitalize on the 'mistake' of BaBs being in the Phalanx, rather than ignoring it as they seem to be.

Were it my call, I'd have the devs crafting a low-mid level arc that has BaBs being inducted into the Phalanx. In other worlds, I'd turn a mistake into an opportunity.

But then again, what do I know; I'm just the deranged Tanker damage guy.




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Wow, kinda disappointed with Positron's godlike ascent. Also, disappointed with the whole, "Be Positron's Lackey" feel coming off the video. Weird.
He's the most "stable" of the remaining Phalanx - all the rest have problems which could affect their leadership.


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They forgot Synapse!

And does anyone else think they kinda rushed Psyche?

And yes, Numina is a ghost/astral spirit. Regardless of that picture of her doing her Hamlet impression.

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Well I tried to watch the vidoc on youtube, but the horrible lack of balance between the voices and the background music made me quit about halfway. The music was way too loud and I missed half of what they were talking about. It was not worth the effort to watch.


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I'm just the deranged Tanker damage guy.




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They forgot Synapse!

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They forgot Synapse!
They sent him in first for veng bait.

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Statesman = Goku?

How dare you speak his name in the same breath of goku!


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They forgot Synapse!
So now we know who Dies For Real in WWD #7 instead of Statesman.

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They'll just throw him in.
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How dare you speak his name in the same breath of goku!
Yeah, Statesman deserves better...

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Well, players who don't have narrow AT constructs, like you, don't really care.

Furthermore, the signature characters always had access to powerset combos that players never had... until Incarnates and IOs. Now you can have a mostly soft-cap Defender who can sometimes boost Defense to over 120% on their own. Or a Melee character with a Nuke. We're now in their league... which was the whole point of the Vidoc and the thrust of the SSA.
To be fair, that's not always the case. If you're someone like me who likes the "power armour minigun guy," you're pretty much SOL. There's no AT that has both a minigun AND armour in its powers... That's ignoring the fact that no AT has minigun to begin with, that's easier to solve. There's also no AT that has both pistols and fast reflexes, nor an AT that has both a sword and a gun.

While I realise that those are just the limits of the game, having signature characters that CAN have this really does play with my emotions more often than not.


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And our questions about BAB and Synapse have been partially answered. Thanks to Samuraiko for sending Tweets to Matt about it and posting the responses in the official Discussion thread.

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Per Posi on Twitter:

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@Samuraiko BAB thing is explained fully next video, was cut for time in this one
When I asked about Synapse:

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@Samuraiko again, time. He gets a nod next ViDoc, I believe
So I'll forgive them for now.

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To be fair, that's not always the case. If you're someone like me who likes the "power armour minigun guy," you're pretty much SOL. There's no AT that has both a minigun AND armour in its powers... That's ignoring the fact that no AT has minigun to begin with, that's easier to solve. There's also no AT that has both pistols and fast reflexes, nor an AT that has both a sword and a gun.

While I realise that those are just the limits of the game, having signature characters that CAN have this really does play with my emotions more often than not.
Nothing in lore says that Positron's armor makes him a Tank like Statesman. When Recluse sapped super powers, it started to fall apart. And even after it was upgraded by Prometheus, it only took one Rikti swipe to the back to kill Positron.

He's not really a blasting Tanker. Like player costume armor, it doesn't affect Defense.


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