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Originally Posted by Ad Astra
For level 50 - I know it seems like sacrilege - but 2 of my 5 level 50 characters haven't done anything to get a Notice of the Well and probably never will, so your proposal for that level won't work out either.
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I know but I still think you should get at least 1 new power type or a mini 1 becuse some of us can't afford VIP sub every month.
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That's an even worse justification for this idea than any of the others given. VIP status has absolutely no bearing on whether or not a character can get to level 50.|
Originally Posted by Mastermiine
I know but I still think you should get at least 1 new power type or a mini 1 becuse some of us can't afford VIP sub every month.
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The simple fact that the devs let you play at all when you don't have a subscription is reward enough.
The level 50 Badge should come with an Accolade Auto-Power that gives a 5% bonus to Max HP and End, a 5% Res (All) bonus, and a 2.5% Def (All) bonus, he suggested half-jokingly.
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Not really.|
Originally Posted by Ad Astra
But currently we have "Patrol XP" awarded while we are logged out. Giving any other "XP Boost" seems superfluous given that.
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Why only have double normal xp when you can have double and a bit normal xp?
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Hang on why should F2P get something that no VIP has ever got.When you have people boasting about getting to lvl 50 in anything from 6 hours to 12 hours,what makes them think they deserve a reward for taking short cuts.My best time for a 0 to 50 was 275 hours of game play,I do not farm and have never taken a PL trip,unless you can call teaming with higher lvl players Pl,ing.Just because they have made the game F2P do not expect them to give stuff to you,if you cannot afford the $15 a month to be a VIP you can still buy stuff from the market now and then to give you the points to increase what goodies you can get.|
Originally Posted by Mastermiine
I know but I still think you should get at least 1 new power type or a mini 1 becuse some of us can't afford VIP sub every month.
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Funny, I teamed with someone recently who was saying pretty much the same thing ...
Anyway, if the OP is that person, then they'll know my stance already, but consider this.
I am a Tier 9 VIP, and a 3 year veteran. I payed out of every orifice to obtain that status. There is very little in the Paragon Store I do not own.
If a FREE player got even a fraction of what I BOUGHT for FREE, I would demand an instant refund.
This seems harsh? Well, it's not. I've payed about £600 overall for this game. You already get enough for being a free player. Hell, be thankful you can even GET to max level. In a certain World where War is considered a Craft, you can only get to level 20 out of 85, which will soon be a higher cap!
The idea itself is good at heart, but for a business it'd be the equivalent of shooting themselves in the foot, as i'm sure many VIP's like myself would be pretty peeved if Free players got for free what we have to pay for.
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I wouldn't object to a bonus being added to the earning of the level 50 badge, but I don't know if the devs would go as high as the 5%/2.5% you suggest.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
The level 50 Badge should come with an Accolade Auto-Power that gives a 5% bonus to Max HP and End, a 5% Res (All) bonus, and a 2.5% Def (All) bonus, he suggested half-jokingly.
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Rather then have it on a 50 badge, I would rather it was spread out over the badges from level 10-50.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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This is the only idea here I think is a good idea. It makes sense in-game, too.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
I think a suitable reward for reaching level 50 would be a gift of prestige for the supergroup that toon belongs to, if any. If not, a one time bonus to the next supergroup that signs him up.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The simple fact that the devs let you play at all when you don't have a subscription is reward enough.
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You get to play, for free, the same game I've been paying $15 a month to play for a little over 6 years now.
And you think you're entitled to get something I DON'T get on top of that?
I don't think so, chief.
This is the worst case of entitlement I've seen on the forums lately.
"We get to play for free, but that isn't enough. Give us MORE stuff for free!!!"
Pathetic really.
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I like this idea in lieu of the "I'm level 50 I demand free stuff" suggestion.|
Originally Posted by Ukaserex
I think a suitable reward for reaching level 50 would be a gift of prestige for the supergroup that toon belongs to, if any. If not, a one time bonus to the next supergroup that signs him up.
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Of course, it's a bit pointless for free players, since they can't join Supergroups. It could become redeemable once they reach a certain Paragon Rewards Tier/Premium status, basically when they unlock supergroups.
All the more incentive for them to spend their cash, which is what a business is about
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True for free players, but Premium players can join SGs. I like this ideas as well.|
Originally Posted by TheShattered
I like this idea in lieu of the "I'm level 50 I demand free stuff" suggestion.
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The other suggestion I had was that there could be a different "level up" animation once you hit 50. I get that many feel it's not a high bar to clear, but hitting 50 is a significant milestone in the game.
If you want to go crazy, have it also emit a healing aura.
they could give you 1 free 50 for the first time you reach 50. so if you go from 1-50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon or if you all ready have 1 50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon. the auto 50 must be on a new toon not an already exsiting one.
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Originally Posted by Heroyouhate
they could give you 1 free 50 for the first time you reach 50. so if you go from 1-50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon or if you all ready have 1 50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon. the auto 50 must be on a new toon not an already exsiting one.
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Originally Posted by Heroyouhate
they could give you 1 free 50 for the first time you reach 50. so if you go from 1-50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon or if you all ready have 1 50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon. the auto 50 must be on a new toon not an already exsiting one.
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I was thinking no (nooooooooooooooooooooooo) to all of this while reading all the replies but then got to thinking what do all players get for hitting level 50 (apart from a feeling of accomplishment if it was done without extensive PLing)?
Incarnate access - not everyone gets that.
A badge - not everone is a badgewhor-hunter (ahem).
Do players DESERVE something (anything)? No.
However my brain then stabbed me in the back by thinking what about some extra "Level 50" costume pieces. Once you hit 50 THAT toon can access extra costumes?
What allows another player to look at me (and not my Info) and see that I hit max level?
When a Hero/Villain hits 50 they are Uber awesome (Incarnate is OMFGUber Awesome with OMGWow attached) and should be able to look the part (should but not HAVE TO).
As to what the costume pieces would be?
Well obviously not like the Incarnate pieces that you buy with Astral/Emp Merits.
Head, shoulders, chest, gloves, aura, cape, boots covering different "types" (like techno gear for the sci-fi toons, enchanted gear for the magic-users and something more... natural).
Or what about an extended Battlecry? Allow double the length of characters for your F10
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I have to admit I have mixed feelings about gating costume pieces. On one hand I don't mind getting a costume piece by earning an achievement of some sort, but I never liked that we had to wait until level 35 to be able to get access to the Roman costumes, or have to keep our accounts active for a year or more to get costume sets as vet rewards.|
Originally Posted by cybermitheral
I was thinking no (nooooooooooooooooooooooo) to all of this while reading all the replies but then got to thinking what do all players get for hitting level 50 (apart from a feeling of accomplishment if it was done without extensive PLing)?
Incarnate access - not everyone gets that. A badge - not everone is a badgewhor-hunter (ahem). Do players DESERVE something (anything)? No. However my brain then stabbed me in the back by thinking what about some extra "Level 50" costume pieces. Once you hit 50 THAT toon can access extra costumes? What allows another player to look at me (and not my Info) and see that I hit max level? When a Hero/Villain hits 50 they are Uber awesome (Incarnate is OMFGUber Awesome with OMGWow attached) and should be able to look the part (should but not HAVE TO). As to what the costume pieces would be? Well obviously not like the Incarnate pieces that you buy with Astral/Emp Merits. Head, shoulders, chest, gloves, aura, cape, boots covering different "types" (like techno gear for the sci-fi toons, enchanted gear for the magic-users and something more... natural). Or what about an extended Battlecry? Allow double the length of characters for your F10 |
Gating complete sets behind things ruins too many character concepts. No one likes having to wait until the middle or the end (level wise) of a characters career. Or having to wait months or years to get the costume set you want.
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Originally Posted by Heroyouhate
they could give you 1 free 50 for the first time you reach 50. so if you go from 1-50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon or if you all ready have 1 50 you get an auto 50 for your next toon. the auto 50 must be on a new toon not an already exsiting one.
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I'd been thinking about this topic a while ago, and there are some interesting things you could get out of this like:
The Prestige boost mentioned before
A bunch of Reward Merits
An Alignment Merit (provided you're a full Hero or Villain)
Or how about this? A permanent +5% XP on ONE character. Maybe it can stack to about 15%?
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How about a global character xp bonus? Stacks up to 30% or sumin. 6 50s, everything levels faster.
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How about non subscribers should be grateful they get to play for free instead of whining for more free perks.
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Originally Posted by Trilby
How about a global character xp bonus? Stacks up to 30% or sumin. 6 50s, everything levels faster.
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Originally Posted by Trilby
How about a global character xp bonus? Stacks up to 30% or sumin. 6 50s, everything levels faster.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
How about non subscribers should be grateful they get to play for free instead of whining for more free perks.
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I was doing some playthroughs of City of Heroes. Now they will serve as memories of a better time ...
I'm a subscriber :P Just most other games it is an xp bonus and I like getting toons to max power asap.
Another MMO I played gave 20% xp bonus per character at cap with a maximum of 200%. Probably wouldn't work in CoH, but the xp boosts given free might.
And the level 40 self teleport also somewhat duplicates either a power already given for logging out in an auction house or duplicates a teleport power purchaseable at the Store (Mission Teleporter).
For level 50 - I know it seems like sacrilege - but 2 of my 5 level 50 characters haven't done anything to get a Notice of the Well and probably never will, so your proposal for that level won't work out either.
Basically, I think my point is that coming up with suitable rewards that don't already duplicate something already granted elsewhere.
The City (and the Isles) already give you something to show their appreciation - a Badge! Yeah that and a couple dollars get you a cup of coffee, but it does show appreciation.
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