Hero One TF?

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

Its Back Alley Brawler that will die

BaB isnt an official member of the freedom phalanx.

Then they got it wrong, cause thats who they are killing off. He's part of the surviving 8.

On the very same page that you linked,

Right its one of the surviving 8 that is dying, not the Freedom Phalanx.

With the way the cutscene at the end of the latest WWD episode played, he sure seems like one.

Also, two of the promotional images for WWD featured his glove, and another said "They used to be called the Surviving Eight..." (emphasis added). I'm assuming he's a candidate to die until someone says he's not.

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You already have a thread about that. No need to derail this one.

Let's see if I got this right (Slight Spoilers for new players, you have been warned) :


Our first encounter with Hero 1 is when we go into the Vault under Atlas on our cape mission and we discover his time capsule is empty.

We then encounter him as the surprise gobsmack at the very end of the LGTF... This is such an important event that the mission gets two cut scenes back to back... we're given the H'rd'dtz (no I probably didn't spell that right) cut scene and think "Ok here's the big end of mission boss and then suddenly we're given a huge "WTF moment." Those damned Rikti have twisted one of the greatest, bravest heroes in our Lore and used him against us.

Our most recent meeting is when we finally defeat him in our Ramiel arc. The most significant thing there is that he is not a shade or an echo, he is the genuine article and we "return him to Vanguard." (Presumably into the direct care of one of the most powerful signature characters in the game, Lady Grey - where he can now be cured of his Riktiness)

Statesman is my bet to die for a number of reasons which we can speculate with at length but ultimately he's done with this game. His Dev's been long gone and not respected with the game community, his character has been so poorly written historically that he just comes across as an irritating, obstinate stuffed shirt, and there are several hints throughout the game that he dies.

Currently the game's splash screen features Statesman fighting a clockwork. Whatever you feel about that artwork itself, it's significant that a) It's only Statesman who features in the illustration and b) it's an insignificant opponent. It's just a clockwork - of the kind we take on from level 1 in Praetoria. That, my friends, is his swansong.

However, he's got one of the best TFs in the game. It's a genuine challenge for most teams, even those who have some incarnates and it takes the team to work together. It's loved by many players - and there would be a big problem removing it for those reasons. Plus we know that the Devs dislike removing content as such - and this is too good to remove.

But, he sends you on it, and then that's it. He's the mission granter, but that's his only significance as far as the TF goes.

So, Statesman dies, Hero One gets his TF with some minor tweaks (and possibly a rehab mission to reintroduce him to the wider community.)

Let's also remember that Hero One is a Brit and now we know he's an Incarnate - but the significance of that is (I believe I'm right here but open to correction) Hero One s one of the only non-American signature characters in game. As the wider community of players integrates with global server access and a united forum it seems strange we don't have any EU sig characters.

Note that I don't anticipate him taking over the leadership of FP - I expect Ms Liberty to do that.

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

No. It isn't.

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

Agreed. If any tf contact dies then i'ld much rather a revamped TF than a simple "X character continues it".

That's not a clockwork, that's either an BCU or an ACU of the Imperial Defense Force War Works. You can encounter them (very inappropriately I might add) at as low as level 20 (where they will be annoyingly hard) but normally you fight them at levels 45-50+.

Ahem!

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Ok I'll stand corrected on those points but Warworks or not it's still not a signature enemy - it's a generic mob and thus relatively unsignificantated

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

Oh puh-lease, Data had the most transparent backdoor save in that movie.

Well, why not do both? Put Hero 1 in a different zone, maybe, to drive home that he's not taking over for Statesman, and give players the option to either take on Recluse in the old STF or run an entirely new H1TF that also happens to be an Incarnate TF. My choice for his zone would be the Rikti War Zone, but I could also see Peregrine Island being a good fit for him if the Vanguard want to keep him away from the Rikti.


The only non-American signature heroes in game that I am aware of are Mirror Spirit, Foreshadow and Hero 1. Unless you count Dillo, too. (*hoorb)

What about citadel? Unlike numina, he's never even been part of an ethnic group...

But is Citadel a non-American?