Once you get a nice spread of attacks its not too bad.
edit: Though it really is the one -major- sticking points when deciding between brutes and scappers.. The only reason I went brute is because Ele is abit stronger on it.
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I haven't used it extensively, but I would imagine that large amount of AoEs would be good for attracting plenty of attention, and that the animations, with Momentum, being pretty fast, would allow for Fury to spike pretty easily. The slow recharge values might hurt it at low levels, but no moreso, I'd imagine, than, say, War Mace.
Yes. TW is a fast set that generates alot of aggro.
I love my TW brute and have never had fury issues, but then again I'm normally fighting a ton of mobs.
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Seems really slow looking at the animation times? Or seems really slow in actual play? The animation times in power info are the cast times without Momentum, but after each slow attack you can use up to 4 fast attacks (Momentum cast times are all 1-1.5 seconds). Not to mention Build Momentum, which gives you a full ten seconds of fast attacks. Playing around with it at level 50 on beta, I found it to not be very slow at all. It certainly won't have trouble with Fury; since GR, I'm not sure any brute has trouble building Fury.|
Originally Posted by Dz131
do simply attacking with TW generate enough fury to keep your bar up? I'm asking because it seems it's really slow.
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It might seem somewhat slow at low levels before you can make a whole chain of TW attacks, but that won't last long.
At levels 5-10, fighting groups of 2-3, I had half my Fury bar filled fairly regularly (about 140-160% Damage Bonus). It's more than enough to whup on LTs and Bosses.
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I'm low level on my TW brute, so no fancy recharge enh or IO sets yet but I'd only assume the animation times *may* be comparable to SS? Factoring in KO blow in every chain and waiting for it to complete and all... followed by a chain of standard attacks.
I'm at work so I can't compare the numbers so that statement is IMHO. Also, the Build Up power in this set grants 10 seconds of Momentum. It's fun when you have a lot of AoEs ready to go and will generate pretty quick.
If anything, at lvl 22+ you can probably take on a larger level of mobs and have their attacks add to your advantage of fury building. It's a lot more fun, too and doesn't take much. (SMASH)
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Heh I bet even Energy Melee/Dark Armor where you can stun a lot of mobs and the attacks are slow and mostly ST doesn't hinder Futy generation nowadays.
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I'm low level on my TW brute, so no fancy recharge enh or IO sets yet but I'd only assume the animation times *may* be comparable to SS? Factoring in KO blow in every chain and waiting for it to complete and all... followed by a chain of standard attacks.
I'm at work so I can't compare the numbers so that statement is IMHO. Also, the Build Up power in this set grants 10 seconds of Momentum. It's fun when you have a lot of AoEs ready to go and will generate pretty quick. If anything, at lvl 22+ you can probably take on a larger level of mobs and have their attacks add to your advantage of fury building. It's a lot more fun, too and doesn't take much. (SMASH) |
Titan Weapons with and without momentum:
Defensive Sweep: 2.20/1.30
Crushing Blow: 2.00/1.30
Titan Sweep: 2.43/1.30
Follow Through: 1.00 (not usable without Momentum)
Rend Armor: 2.30/1.30
Whirling Smash: 1.00 (not usable without Momentum)
Arc of Destruction: 2.70/1.50
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Titan Weapons with and without momentum:
Defensive Sweep: 2.20/1.30 Crushing Blow: 2.00/1.30 Titan Sweep: 2.43/1.30 Follow Through: 1.00 (not usable without Momentum) Rend Armor: 2.30/1.30 Whirling Smash: 1.00 (not usable without Momentum) Arc of Destruction: 2.70/1.50 |
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Ooo nice, didn't know it was on CoD already, that was fast.
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While running through DFB and early level sweeping I got my TW/Ele Brute to lvl 13. He seemed slow at first (put Brawl on Auto to fill in as always) but by lvl 12 he was humming right along. Taking the power Momentum works well as an opener for Lts, Bosses and small mobs since you can lead with your heftiest attack.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
Assuming you're not getting pounded by mobs eg in a trial, do simply attacking with TW generate enough fury to keep your bar up? I'm asking because it seems it's really slow.
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My TW/EA brute seems to be doing just fine on fury. Even during the times that the RNG is being kind and i'm not getting hit a whole heck of alot, i can still crank my FU-bar to some pretty decent levels.
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Missed attack from mobs also generate fury just like a landed attack or else the defensive sets would be way suckier for that.
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My TW/EA brute seems to be doing just fine on fury. Even during the times that the RNG is being kind and i'm not getting hit a whole heck of alot, i can still crank my FU-bar to some pretty decent levels.
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Missed attack from mobs also generate fury just like a landed attack or else the defensive sets would be way suckier for that.
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I'm usually just to busy hitting stuff....LOL
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I have no problem generating enough fury on mines. In the lower levels not having enough attacks and the long recharge times can suck at times.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
Assuming you're not getting pounded by mobs eg in a trial, do simply attacking with TW generate enough fury to keep your bar up? I'm asking because it seems it's really slow.
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The special ability "momentum" is a dead giveaway of how this toon should be played... Don't let it drop and you're sorted.
Currently I foud farming Fire mobs my non incarnated brute beats a +1 SS with T3's hands down for speed.
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She is level 21 now and she defeats things fast and easy. Since my Secondary is not as filled out as I would like, I am still running 0/2. The silver lining for not having a ton of mobs on my plate is I have not had one drop of endurance issues.
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The real question is, is there ANY Brute with problems generating Fury after the change?
The worst offender was Mace/Dark using Oppressive Gloom because that combo can stun the whole world, and I heard complaints about that relating to Fury, but I guess even they can maintain 70% Fury most of the time nowadays.
hehehe... TW's got no problem with fury. XD Once you get momentum going you swing like the 30's.
Assuming you're not getting pounded by mobs eg in a trial, do simply attacking with TW generate enough fury to keep your bar up? I'm asking because it seems it's really slow.