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Yep that's all we need here to make me avoid AP even more.

There's just one slight problem with applying "the majority of the wealth in the game is held by a very small percentage of the population" concept in this game: the game can generate an infinite supply of Influence for everyone. There are no real life "economic" barriers keeping any player from sitting on 100 billion Influence if they want to.

The only reason there are only a handful of people in this game who are multi-billionaires is because there's apparently only a handful of people who are bothering to figure out how to make multi-billions of Influence. It's not that hard, but it does take some effort and knowledge.

At the very least the "99 percenters" of this game can't claim it's unemployment or lack of opportunities that are keeping them down.
I never said anything about WHY a most of the wealth is held by a small percentage.

I agree that it most likely is ignorance, laziness, or apathy keeping most people from having crap tons of influence to throw around. (Apathy in my case).

I recently began playing the market a little bit, now that I have the /auctionhouse command I can buy generic IO recipes below cost in the market and then vendor them at the store I'm standing right next to. It's not a huge profit, but it gives my low level characters enough funds so I can at least buy DOs without having to email cash to myself. I suppose if I sat there long enough I could eventually hit 2 billion doing that, but I'd rather just go play the game.

I'll probably never be a multi-billionaire, mostly because I don't really care if I am or not, but if I can make a million influence in 10 minutes with a level 4 character, anyone can.


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Its the not wanting to sit and market for hours thats keeping them down lol.
What everyone else said: it's a lack of effort. If you choose not to be thrifty and frugal, if you choose not to buy low and sell high, if you choose not to be efficient with salvage and recipes and currencies, then you're choosing to be "poor."

And even that is a stretch of the definition of "poor." Anyone who simply plays the game should at least be some order of hundred-millionaire. You couldn't possibly miss doing this, unless you just outright deleted everything your character ever got. You don't even have to "play the market," you just have to make smart decisions with the money you have.

It's also a choice of convenience, of what makes the game fun for people. If you want to spend imaginary currency like you're Mr. Moneybags, that's cool, and a fun way to play the game. Or if you want to sell enhancements back only to vendors who pay the highest value, and demand a decent return on even the crappiest and most prolific common salvage, and are willing to wait many many days to score low bids on things in the CH, it'll add up.

I think a good example/barometer is the Field Crafting Station accolade. A lot of people hate it, and think it's a waste of effort and influence. But if you earn it the right way, you should ultimately have a positive net by the time it awards. YMMV.


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I think a good example/barometer is the Field Crafting Station accolade. A lot of people hate it, and think it's a waste of effort and influence. But if you earn it the right way, you should ultimately have a positive net by the time it awards. YMMV.
I love my Portable Crafting Station. It was one of the best investments I made on my farmer.

I really need to get around to getting it on my other 2 farm brutes though >_>

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Portable Crafting Table + /auctionhouse = never having to go to a store, university, auction house, insp. vendor ever again.

(Unless you're on a map, these days.)


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I think a good example/barometer is the Field Crafting Station accolade. A lot of people hate it, and think it's a waste of effort and influence. But if you earn it the right way, you should ultimately have a positive net by the time it awards. YMMV.
This is definitely a good example of the flexibility of this game. Players can achieve the same goal in many different ways depending on whether they'd rather spend more time than money or vise versa. While it's certainly true that you can make a good profit while working on the portable Field Crafter accolade it's also possible to just blow 50-100 million Influence buying everything all at once and having the accolade done as quickly as you can click the GUIs to craft a few hundred recipes in a row.

The same generality can be said for making Influence in the markets - anyone can make as much or as little as they want depending on how much time or Influence they want to spend there.


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This is definitely a good example of the flexibility of this game. Players can achieve the same goal in many different ways depending on whether they'd rather spend more time than money or vise versa. While it's certainly true that you can make a good profit while working on the portable Field Crafter accolade it's also possible to just blow 50-100 million Influence buying everything all at once and having the accolade done as quickly as you can click the GUIs to craft a few hundred recipes in a row.
Haha, I think my first time through I was so interested in earning the badges as fast as possible that I blew about 500m scoring the accolade. I'll grant you that prices were higher at the time because I wasn't the only one doing the same thing, but yeah.


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Haha, I think my first time through I was so interested in earning the badges as fast as possible that I blew about 500m scoring the accolade. I'll grant you that prices were higher at the time because I wasn't the only one doing the same thing, but yeah.
i spent a litle over 250 mil on the only character of mine to ever get it. Then the danged thing was a little buggy. I could open it once, but if i walked away and tried to reopen the crafting menu the annoying little thing wouldnt respond. Put me off the whole deal.


 

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i spent a litle over 250 mil on the only character of mine to ever get it. Then the danged thing was a little buggy. I could open it once, but if i walked away and tried to reopen the crafting menu the annoying little thing wouldnt respond. Put me off the whole deal.
It not really a bug as much as weird behavior. The workstation itself is immobile but if you move far enough from it the leash causes it to teleport to you. Unfortunately this causes the workstation to stop functioning as an actual workstation. I would guess there's some weird code going on that makes the original location clickable and that doesn't get relocated with the work bench.


 

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It not really a bug as much as weird behavior. The workstation itself is immobile but if you move far enough from it the leash causes it to teleport to you. Unfortunately this causes the workstation to stop functioning as an actual workstation. I would guess there's some weird code going on that makes the original location clickable and that doesn't get relocated with the work bench.
Yeah it's a little funny that way, but I've just gotten used to using it when I know I don't have to move anywhere while it's active. At this point I don't even really think about it much as a "limitation" anymore. *shrugs*


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Danged hyper, you on a 50 inch monitor? lol


 

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Danged hyper, you on a 50 inch monitor? lol
No. I just play at 1920x1080 on a 24" monitor. I might have gone bigger, but the 24" just BARELY fits under the hutch on my desk.

Looking around for a second-hand Jerker desk in good repair though. They move so fast it's not funny.



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Danged hyper, you on a 50 inch monitor? lol
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It's the resolution, not the size. As far as I can tell, the shot is the same width as my monitor, which is 1080x1920. Mine is a 23" HD widescreen.
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No. I just play at 1920x1080 on a 24" monitor. I might have gone bigger, but the 24" just BARELY fits under the hutch on my desk.

Looking around for a second-hand Jerker desk in good repair though. They move so fast it's not funny.
It's standard 1080p HD resolution. My 27" monitor uses the same settings.


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It's standard 1080p HD resolution. My 27" monitor uses the same settings.
1080 is a curse. I've grown much too fond of 1920x1200. I need my 16:10, and they are so much more difficult to find now (at consumer pricing). Running two 26" now, and Asus stopped producing them, so my OCD won't allow a different brand.

I'm going to be forced into something like this:
http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-apexultraelite.asp

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Err, and yeah, raise the influence cap?


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1080 is a curse. I've grown much too fond of 1920x1200. I need my 16:10, and they are so much more difficult to find now (at consumer pricing). Running two 26" now, and Asus stopped producing them, so my OCD won't allow a different brand.

I'm going to be forced into something like this:
http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-apexultraelite.asp

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Err, and yeah, raise the influence cap?
Wow, for a new low price of 7 Grand each.

More power to ya Keplar if you can swing that, but not me. I think that would completely pay off my car..


 

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I was thinking Cave Johnson, myself.


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I was thinking Cave Johnson, myself.
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