Depends on your primary. From the /EA side, the power that would benefit most from more recharge is Energize, since you likely won't use Overload every single time it's up.
Sure you get a good recharge bonus, but if you go crazy on the build and get Hasten, /EA is now one of the best secondaries to get crazy recharge without sacrificing defense. That's the great thing about the set now, in other ones you usually have to sacrifice recharge to get desired bonuses, with EA+Hasten you can do both. So I don't personally skip Hasten on /EA. There are builds around with Overload up 1/3 of the time (maybe more), I don't use it much because it's not as useful on Stalkers, my /Ea Brute is a lowbie (and getting hasten later because he's WM, attacks don't recharge quickly).
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I had started building for defenses on my street justice/energy aura scrapper. After playing a little I found that I would just rather slaughter stuff quicker. So then I rebuilt around recharge and just use energy drain to strengthen up my defenses. With the recharge I have and hasten, it is a much more satisfying toon to me. If your "attack side" is good at AoE, I would say both would be even better. It just depends on the toon you are on.
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
I see the recharge bonuses with Energy Aura now. Is it ok to skip Hasten? Will I still be ok?
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I am playing Street Justice/EA Brute. I think I will skip Hasten until later, but maybe not altogether.
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With the new build flexibility with inherent Stamina, etc. now it's really hard to justify skipping Hasten.|
Originally Posted by shaggy5
I see the recharge bonuses with Energy Aura now. Is it ok to skip Hasten? Will I still be ok?
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Remember, at the 40-50s on, there are TONS of stuff that debuffs recharge. Nasty EBs and GMs. You want Hasten to counteract that.
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Not being able to customize Hasten to get rid of the flaming hands is more than enough reason to justify skipping Hasten on quite a few characters who would look really dumb with their hands on fire. (Those make up for it by being planned out with plenty of sweet recharge bonuses to more than make up for it, and without sacrificing anything critical.)
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Originally Posted by concreteshift
With the new build flexibility with inherent Stamina, etc. now it's really hard to justify skipping Hasten.
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It's always OK to skip hasten. You can usually pick up very respectable amounts of global recharge via IO slotting.
That said, if you're building for +recharge, hasten will get you more of it, and more consistently. So if you want a lot of +recharge (and most do) and you can fit hasten in, I would certainly take it.
I also have a SJ/EA scrapper. I have Hasten in my build. To be honest, majority of my characters have hasten, especially now that the Fitness pool is Inherent. If you got room in your build I would recommend that you take it.
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My replacement has mostly been Stealth, which stacks with the Unbounded Leap or Celerity Stealth IO in one of the Prestige Sprints, and serves as a mule for a Luck of the Gambler +Global Recharge. Granted, Super Speed gives stealth as well, but it doesn't take defense sets, and then you not only get Hasten's flaming hands, but you also get flaming feet.
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Originally Posted by SuperBull
I also have a SJ/EA scrapper. I have Hasten in my build. To be honest, majority of my characters have hasten, especially now that the Fitness pool is Inherent. If you got room in your build I would recommend that you take it.
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The number of characters I have with hasten I can count on two fingers. I would hate to see the hasten take over from stamina as the "every character must have it or you're gimped" power now that everyone gets stamina whether they want it or not.
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It's ok to skip hasten on almost any character. The character may be improved by hasten, but very rarely is it necessary for the character to function.
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Hasten is far from necessary, even without Energy Aura or any such powers. In short, absolutely, you'll be okay. Energy Aura's recharge bonus isn't close to Hasten, of course, but you're fine without it. Hasten helps, but it's skippable.
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
I see the recharge bonuses with Energy Aura now. Is it ok to skip Hasten? Will I still be ok?
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Depends on primary and play style. I for one with a BS/Nrg (Brute) wouldn't skip it, while the entropic aura is very nice it doesn't provide 70% recharge even in huge mobs.
Thinking of working on a SS/Nrg brute eventually and again it would want hasten too, but the claws/nrg scrapper I might roll as a replacement for a claws/WP scrapper might skip it till late on in the build.
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Hasten will never be mandatory. I don't have it on my claws/sr, I see no need for it for example, nothing in SR except Elude which i skipped would benefit her much.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
The number of characters I have with hasten I can count on two fingers. I would hate to see the hasten take over from stamina as the "every character must have it or you're gimped" power now that everyone gets stamina whether they want it or not.
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I mentioned it's especially sweet on /EA because Energize is quite on a long timer, and /Ea has such good base defense numbers it's probably the set that's easiest to softcap to s/l/e/f/c (and neg if you go a bit overboard) AND get crazy overall recharge after the changes, and Hasten helps that. I've seen comparisons among ice armor and /EA in the Stalker forums, it's way easier to build /EA for def and get more recharge compared to /IA (for example Kinetic Shield gives 16.5% s/l def on Stalkers, and Frozen Armor 12.75% - and scrappers/brutes still get Energy Cloak which gives 3.75% def to all unslotted, so /EA reaches the softcap with less IOs for that).
I'd love a non-fx option for Hasten tho... I spent the night playing my first /regen toon, and Hasten is almost mandatory on regen since your clicks are the main source of mitigation at least on SOs... I spent 40 minutes on her costume, even bought the vanguard katana just for the toon, and when I got hasten the glowing hands almost made me cry
It's always okay to skip Hasten as Hasten is not required. Energy Aura has an even easier time skipping it with its inherent +Recharge.
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I can testify that it's not needed there. I've had it on my SS/EA, and dropped it in favor of IO slotting and the FF+rech proc in Footstomp.|
Originally Posted by Lost Ninja
Thinking of working on a SS/Nrg brute eventually and again it would want hasten too
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Of course, I also like having an unnecessary "real" travel power (Super Jump) that could be dropped for Hasten. At some point, it becomes a flavor thing, but to me, /EA plays just fine without Hasten to buff it.
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It is always OK to skip hasten. You don't need it.
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Well, again, it helps nearly any build, true. But it absolutely isn't necessary unless you're completely min/maxing your build.
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Originally Posted by Lost Ninja
Depends on primary and play style. I for one with a BS/Nrg (Brute) wouldn't skip it, while the entropic aura is very nice it doesn't provide 70% recharge even in huge mobs.
Thinking of working on a SS/Nrg brute eventually and again it would want hasten too, but the claws/nrg scrapper I might roll as a replacement for a claws/WP scrapper might skip it till late on in the build. |
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
I see the recharge bonuses with Energy Aura now. Is it ok to skip Hasten? Will I still be ok?
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i have two alts that use Hasten and level 50s of almost every AT, but i don't currently have any Energy Aura alts above level 20, so maybe it is necessary because... wait, no, Stone Armor has -recharge, Energy Aura gets +recharge powers...
Uh, barring refusal to play at any setting below +4/x8 i'm not sure why skipping Hasten wouldn't be okay with any powerset.
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That *is* what I was asking. Thank God! My fingers are safe. I haven't been sleeping! : )
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Nobody's going to come to your house and break your fingers over it, if that's what you're asking.
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That *is* what I was asking. Thank God! My fingers are safe. I haven't been sleeping! : )
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Oh don't get me wrong I'm not trying to imply that is essential, but that I would want it there. I don't think any build/AT/Set/etc Needs Hasten but as my comment indicates it does depend on play-style as well as power choice. My own preference is to slot for ACC/DMG/END and get the recharge from other sources. Hence why I pretty much take Hasten on all my characters. How I use it has changed though, in the old days it was on auto, nowadays I click it.
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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm
I can testify that it's not needed there. I've had it on my SS/EA, and dropped it in favor of IO slotting and the FF+rech proc in Footstomp.
Of course, I also like having an unnecessary "real" travel power (Super Jump) that could be dropped for Hasten. At some point, it becomes a flavor thing, but to me, /EA plays just fine without Hasten to buff it. |
I see the recharge bonuses with Energy Aura now. Is it ok to skip Hasten? Will I still be ok?
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