street justice any good ?

Em...there are times I don't particularly care for your posts (albeit these are in the rare).

There are times where I rather enjoy your posts.

And then there are times I love your posts.

This is one of the latter...and I must give a big, fat, friggin,


THANK YOU!!

On that note: I'm pretty damn tired of seeing all the posts bashing StJ because it's NOT Superstrength 2.0 and it doesn't have godly AoE, or even "sufficient" AoE, and the single target damage of the set is irrelevant as this game has "move past ST damage and is all about the AoE" and all of the other nonsense that some tweebs on the boards have been spouting. To say NOTHING of the "blah blah blah i shouldn't HAVE to PAY for powersets, blah, blah, sniff, sniff, cry, piss, moan" crap. Whatever...hope that universe that's revolving around you explodes.

Personally...I love Street Justice (though i haven't had much time lately to play). A few tweaks here and there would be nice, but i could be perfectly content with it as is.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

Does crits equal higher damage when compared to fury ? uguu~

Lulz Stj is gimp u shud do liek me my ss fire broot pharms phat lootz at +4/x8 AVS ONLY tix cap in 15 secs no insps no IOs

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

But I already have a SS/Fire Broot. uguu~

Thanks! Emberly's posts usually make me laugh but this quote I found sig-worthy

To answer your question, this set does mediocre damage, both in terms of single target and aoe. If damage is your main concern, for either situation, there are several sets that would suit you better.

Some of it's damage potention will be tied into expensive IOs.

Figure it can slot botht he -Resist Procs (and a Purple Damage Proc) into two of it's attacks. Sweeping Cross and Shin Breaker.

Best DPS is still being decided I believe, but I'd say the set is more well rouded than anything else.

Like has been mentioned before. It's not that SS is a ST DPS machine, it's that it can be paired with GLOOM to turn it into one.

Besides it's awesome animations (well, I think a couple of them could use some tweaks myself, but generally I love the animations of the set), it's a set that gives pretty decent ST DPS at relatively low amounts of +RCH, with some decent AOE, after all you get a cone and an targetted AOE.

It's not a bad set, but if you're looking for top 3, I don't think it'll wind up in that position.

I believe crits is what makes Scrappers out damage Broots overall (any Scrapper/Broot Expert can feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken)

Ok ty.

Yeah that's the general consensus among the number crunchers, scrappers outdamage brutes... WHEN YOU'RE SOLOING A PYLON WITH YOUR TOP ATTACK CHAIN AND POOSTING YOUR BEST TIME AND DPS UGUUU'~~~~

Ok besides that I don't think you'll feel a lot of difference when soloing or teaming in normal content, they say that only shields make a very noticeable difference in general because of both your damage bonus aura (damage bonuses favours the AT with higher base dmg) and the pet damage cap which is like 400% or 500%, anyway way lower than Broots' 775% and with lower base damage Shield Charge won't do you as much as scrapper's. According to Bill Z Bubba's calcs, SS would be way better on scrappers (about 14% not counting Gloom which is like, one of the best attacks for a SS - and lots of other Brute sets' ST chain) because of the damage enhancing from Rage but scrappers don't have that, and SS is awesomesauce for Brutes anyway.

Since I prefer Brutes (I just feel more powerful with them and I like to help my fellow squishies in the rare occasions I play melee so I take Taunt and love damage auras, brutes are the only ones who get dmg auras with taunt besides loltankers, you can see in the boards how much the spines/fire scraps hate the mob scatter and Burn isn't as effective because of that), I'd only make a scrapper now for shields (maybe regen, a set I only played on Stalkers and maybe I won't want a taunt aura for a regen), although I enjoy my DB/Elec Scrapper when I don't want to care about anyone else on the team (btw someone also said that on a TOP IO build specced for the TOP attack chain DB outperforms Brutes quite a bit because of Blinding Feint for ST DPS on Avs and Pylons UGUUU~~~ - Claws is not behind the way DB according to them is because Claws has been adjusted with different rech/end/dmg values for Broots).

There's also some discussion on Fire Melee - it was vastly superior on Brutes before the Fury changes because the DoTs scale with Fury, and do nothing for scrappers besides normal damage, but now with the Fury change Bill told me Fire would still be better on Brutes but not by much. So on usual play situations most combos should feel about the same and more depending on player taste.

I prefer the StJ miss sounds to the SS miss sounds.

WOOSH vs feh

That little shockwave of air that comes off your character's legs and fists is amazing, too. Almost makes the miss here or there not so bad. Almost.

The problem is the Stj sounds when you HIT. It doesn't feel like you landed a hard punch like when you hit with Smite from Dark Melee, which has a very punchy sfx.

I agree.

I've noticed clipping issues with some of the shields and the elbow smash animation of Heavy Blow, but you can get around it by simply picking a different shield. It looks really cool though, when you do the elbow smash animation it looks like you're bashing them with the edge of the shield.

The left hand animations of Initial Strike look pretty good with a shield too.

In general, I concur with other posters here. It's a good set. It's not better than everything else, and it is most certainly not gimped. The AoE is decent, and it's thematically appropriate. I mean, how many different ways can a street fighter hit more than one guy at a time? Not too many. And the slightly smaller area makes sense too, not a whole lot of street fighters have 8 foot long arms and legs.

So the answer to the question in the thread title, at least from my perspective, is a resounding YES.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.