street justice any good ?
By
Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-10-17 06:52 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
It is my new favorite set. Is it hands down better than every other set? No. Is it good? Yes.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
It's better than Super Strength until Foot Stomp...then again, most sets are.
Despite people whining about the AoEs in StJ, I find them just fine, aside from purely ranged enemies, they'll gather around you easily enough.
I'm not quite sold on it for Tankers though...Brutes and Scrappers? definitely.
It's a good set.
Reasons to buy it:
- You like fun
- You enjoy cool animations
- You don't have a stick up your *** about MAXIMUM AOE DPS ATTACK CHAIN TARGET CAP RADIUS UGUU~~~
Reasons not to buy it:
- You're one of those people who think that every new set should be better in every way than every set before it
- You're one of those people who is going to ragepost about how sets that cost money should be better than every set that is free
It's not the best, but it's good and fun to play.
It's balanced to be in the top tier but isn't in itself the top. Its AoE, due to its nature will not surpass Footstomp (which, looked at in a vacuum, is the single best AoE a melee character will ever see), but comes much earlier, and itself outstrips most other sets' AoE in terms of overall effectiveness.
I like it. It's an excellent implementation of a "punchy" set that people have been asking for for years. It feels nice and crunchy, and the combo system is well balanced and not fiddly. The AoE is adequate, and the set is well animated. Granted I'm only 18, but up to Spinning Strike I haven't found a stinker in the set yet.
IMO its the only non-weapon set that looks good with a shield
I'm really enjoying Street Justice. Its what Im playing the most right now. It may not be the set with the highest damage, but it is definitely a fun set to play which I think is more important.
it does good amount of damage, it's fun and goes well with any theme. It is really good for Soloing and nice Animations.
Never play another NcSoft game, If you feel pride for our game, then it as well, I Superratz am Proud of all of you Coh people, Love, Friendship will last for a lifetime.
Global:@Greenflame Ratz
Main Toons:Super Ratz, Burning B Radical, Green Flame Avenger, Tunnel Ratz, Alex Magnus
One question about SJ.
My friend said the Spin attack is an aoe attack with only 6 radius. I haven't tried it but he swears it does not hit any target "behind" him. Is this true?
Is it supposed to be a "cone" attack?
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Quote:
Spinning Strike is not a cone, it is a targeted AoE with a melee-ranged... well, range. The radius is small (not in game to give you the numbers right now), but it radiates around your target, which is why your friend isn't hitting targets behind him. |
Originally Posted by Jibikao
One question about SJ.
My friend said the Spin attack is an aoe attack with only 6 radius. I haven't tried it but he swears it does not hit any target "behind" him. Is this true? Is it supposed to be a "cone" attack? |
If you're completely surrounded by foes, you may want to target something right next to you to hit things all around you. If you've got enemies bunched up in front of you, you may want to target something farther back--this extends the "reach" of your power, and makes the range longer than most melee cones.
I like the way that it works. I find it's easier than lining up a cone. The only downside from my perspective is that there are far fewer targeted AoE invention sets than PBAoE invention sets.
Quote:
It's a melee range targeted aoe. Think of it as a melee fireball. You target an enemy, and the power hits everything in a 6 ft radius from that enemy.
|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
One question about SJ.
My friend said the Spin attack is an aoe attack with only 6 radius. I haven't tried it but he swears it does not hit any target "behind" him. Is this true? Is it supposed to be a "cone" attack? |
Quote:
Oh I see. It's a Target AoE with only 6 radius. That's why it's hard to hit something "behind" him. |
Originally Posted by Pattern Walker
Spinning Strike is not a cone, it is a targeted AoE with a melee-ranged... well, range. The radius is small (not in game to give you the numbers right now), but it radiates around your target, which is why your friend isn't hitting targets behind him.
If you're completely surrounded by foes, you may want to target something right next to you to hit things all around you. If you've got enemies bunched up in front of you, you may want to target something farther back--this extends the "reach" of your power, and makes the range longer than most melee cones. I like the way that it works. I find it's easier than lining up a cone. The only downside from my perspective is that there are far fewer targeted AoE invention sets than PBAoE invention sets. |
Weird..this could be the first melee target aoe that I can think of. All the other aoe/cone are pbaoe.
Interesting. Thanks for the replies.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
It hits targets behind my StJ/SD all the time.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
Ive noticed that till you get SO's its accuracy isn't the best and it will miss a few times in a row.
Other than that, I love it.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
Oh I see. It's a Target AoE with only 6 radius. That's why it's hard to hit something "behind" him.
Weird..this could be the first melee target aoe that I can think of. All the other aoe/cone are pbaoe. Interesting. Thanks for the replies. |
Thunderstrike from Electric Melee works the same way, BUT it takes PBAoE sets as far as I know.
Got more funky styles than my laserjet got font
Quote:
Mmmm, haven't used my Stalker Elec in a while. I thought the main target receives the full damage and the pbaoe part is minor damage with knock down?
|
Originally Posted by Atomic_Funk
Thunderstrike from Electric Melee works the same way, BUT it takes PBAoE sets as far as I know.
|
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
The only complaint I have about Street Justice is the sound effects. There doesn't seem to be different sound effects for hitting and missing with certain attacks.
I like it for a number of reasons.
* Cool Animations
* Good Punch/Smash sound effects
* I can finally use that Boxing costume set (has a great 1-2 boxing punch in Initial Strike)
* Decent Damage
* Faster (ish) animations
* Feels very scrappy
I chose a Brute and am happy with the decision. STJ with Initial Strike is a very fast, quick recharging power that builds fury well. And it feels like a good filler power too....kinda like Jab Jab.....smash.....jab jab......round kick. Plus with a brute, you are setting up your AOE/CONE with the combo system with 2-3 hits first alot.....good fury building.
I also noticed that the AOE & Cone powers are pretty good too. Nothing spectacular, but once you get the hang of it, you can really get some good AOE damage going. And from a damage standpoint......it's good.
***I have noticed a below average accuracy though. I am missing more often than I am used to with any other set....even with 2 IO or SO Accuracy enhancements. Before the SOs.....it was ALOT of whiffing. Anyone else noticing this?*****
Quote:
Yes, except the AoE is centered around the target, just like Spinning Strike.
|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
Mmmm, haven't used my Stalker Elec in a while. I thought the main target receives the full damage and the pbaoe part is minor damage with knock down?
|
Got more funky styles than my laserjet got font
Is STJ better on brootes or scrappers? Uguu~
Quote:
Just wanna thank you, I had a terrible day and this made me LOL |
Originally Posted by Emberly
|
Quote:
It has average acc, which means it whiffs no more than a set like Dark Melee or Energy Melee. Super Strength ends up getting Rage as a perma tohit boost, possibly relatively early (if a Brute) and thus pre-SO, which helps soften the slope from beginner's luck's loss, and many other melee sets, especially on the Scrapper side, have an inherently higher accuracy, which really only matters pre-SO in most cases.|
Originally Posted by Super Flu
I like it for a number of reasons.
* Cool Animations * Good Punch/Smash sound effects * I can finally use that Boxing costume set (has a great 1-2 boxing punch in Initial Strike) * Decent Damage * Faster (ish) animations * Feels very scrappy I chose a Brute and am happy with the decision. STJ with Initial Strike is a very fast, quick recharging power that builds fury well. And it feels like a good filler power too....kinda like Jab Jab.....smash.....jab jab......round kick. Plus with a brute, you are setting up your AOE/CONE with the combo system with 2-3 hits first alot.....good fury building. I also noticed that the AOE & Cone powers are pretty good too. Nothing spectacular, but once you get the hang of it, you can really get some good AOE damage going. And from a damage standpoint......it's good. ***I have noticed a below average accuracy though. I am missing more often than I am used to with any other set....even with 2 IO or SO Accuracy enhancements. Before the SOs.....it was ALOT of whiffing. Anyone else noticing this?***** |
Some other sets have higher up-time tohit buffs than Combat Readiness and other Build Up-type damage/tohit buffs to make up for it, as well.
There's also the fact that due to its combo-based nature, StJ will "feel" its misses in terms of DPS and in anticipating those yellow circles where other sets won't.
Quote:
can't really go wrong with either, only thing it really comes down to is do you want crits or higher res caps and hp?
|
Originally Posted by Dz131
Is STJ better on brootes or scrappers? Uguu~
|
I was wondering is street justice any good ?
I like to know before I buy it....
is it better then super strength or the others with high damage ?