Each individual item is on its own timer, so you could grab the Hero merit, run it immediately again, and then grab the normal merits, and then run it again (once 50), and get astral, then AGAIN, and get Empyrean.
And then 7 days later, you can do it all again!
(actually, the very first time you do it, it apparently doesn't start the timer, so you could run it back to back and get 2 hero merits immediately 
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At this stage I'd recommend getting the Hero merit. They'll give you the most bang for your buck as they can be used to nab some of the more sought after recipes. The Signature Story arc is by far the quickest way of attaining one.
Once you're 50 however, the incarnate stuff might be more beneficial, but Hero/Villain merits are still good value.
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These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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(pretty sure it only uses the TF code to prevent people without access from doing it, without the single zone restriction of First Ward)
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These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Yep, soloed 3 times now. Admittedly not on squishies.
1. 50 Bots/FF mastermind
2. 50 fortunata
3. 44ish night widow
All of these toons were SK'd down to level 20, so I don't think IO sets and Incarnates had much to do with it.
Bots/FF was the hardest. At level 20, you're right in the middle of the Mastermind "hell levels". Three little minions, and only one lieut. Lenkin killed two of my little bots in the last mish before I finished him off. Not too bad though.
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Easily. Right off, you don't get to keep any of your uber funky powers since the arc exemps you to level TWENTY. You'll probably even lose all your IO set bonuses.|
Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Soloing the signature story arc is a lot easier than soloing Mender Ramiel's arc. A lot.
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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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26 claws/wp brute
45 PB
24 bane
25 widow
32 dp/traps corr
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and a selection of 50s also including a defender. The redside arc is easier to solo if you accept the offer to work with the circle because they actually provide help. But neither is actually hard. Some of my characters are very gimpy and I still pulled it off.
Can't turn off bosses or set the level lower than 0, but you can reduce the number of enemies by running at x1.
and I agree, take the hero merit. FYI the climactic enemy is work a boatload of exp and prestige. I thought that was very nice. Not WTF (weekly task force) level boatload, btu still far more than normal (12x normal if my math is right).
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Yep, soloed 3 times now. Admittedly not on squishies.
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As far as the OP - if you're not 50, you're not going to get the option FOR Astral merits/threads.
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Soloing the signature story arc is a lot easier than soloing Mender Ramiel's arc. A lot.
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These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Pure support types might have some problems, but soloing is scary easy otherwise. It's become a time test for many of us.. Not is, but how fast. My lvl 13 brute with no appreciable slotting of any sort did 4 runs in 44 minutes, counting between time, and I don't think that's even close to a really noteworthy score..
On the other hand, my TA Def is built with all her set bonuses aimed at lvl 40ish. Minus those, and the powers above lvl 25, she just manages progress on her debt badge, so.. It really depends on the alt... And it's not a pure melee v other dichotomy. My rad/rad def had zero problems, and managed some decent times herself. With more than 3 attacks at lvl 25, she'd have been a lot faster.
[QUOTE=GavinRuneblade;3906405]The redside arc is easier to solo if you accept the offer to work with the circle because they actually provide help.[QUOTE]
Wow, and I was thinking redside was a PITA, but I kept telling the CoT to bugger off.. Live and learn. But I think I'll still tell them to bugger off. I guess I have it in for them. And have it in for them. And the [SPOILER]
wave after wave at the end is pretty fun..
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I don't find ramiel's arc all that hard. Even on SOs... most recently a sonic/sonic defender.
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Yes, but seriously.. Sonic/Sonic defs rock FAR more than people give them credit for, so I don't think this is a fair comparison to a squishie who has no mez protection, or no res, or not res debuff, etc...
Yeah I'm only a month or so old newbie, but the arc is definitely solo'able. I did it first with my plant/fire dominator. The Circle NPC helps a *lot* on villain side, though so does Domination >>
My hero controller, on the other hand, took more than a few hospital trips to take down the boss. Though now I've leveled him a bit and have Phantom Army I'm going to go back and try it again at some point.
but yes, you can do it. It just might take a bit
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Just to clarify, there is a "First time running this particular SSA" reward in addition to an "Any single SSA every seven days" reward. When Part 2 comes out, you'll be able to get the "First Time" reward for it, but you won't get the "Any single SSA" reward if you've already run Part 1 any time in that past week.
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(actually, the very first time you do it, it apparently doesn't start the timer, so you could run it back to back and get 2 hero merits immediately
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How long will this current Arc be up for?
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Yeah I'm only a month or so old newbie, but the arc is definitely solo'able. I did it first with my plant/fire dominator. The Circle NPC helps a *lot* on villain side, though so does Domination >>
My hero controller, on the other hand, took more than a few hospital trips to take down the boss. Though now I've leveled him a bit and have Phantom Army I'm going to go back and try it again at some point. but yes, you can do it. It just might take a bit |
I actually did that (I figured I could solo him due to my low level, lack of mez protection on my scrapper, and no good insps)- got distracted right after getting him into the lava, then couldn't find where he ran off to! He eventually came back, nearly dead! Talk about easy win
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I've soloed it on a wide variety of characters, including a level 10 (a dominator if it matters.) The only one that had any real problems was a peacebringer, because void mobs will show up and be painful.
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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Most of my other toons, I had sense enough to reduce the diff to 0/1 to speed through them as fast as I could, sort of compete against myself.
I have long page loads, so the fastest time I got was about 8 and a half minutes. Suffice it to say that teaming for this one seemed to me to be a completely hilarious idea. In fact, I did team up a few times - and it always took longer with a team. It wasnt' any more difficult, but with load times, recruiting, afk time, etc. - let's just say that for this specific one, I will always run solo in the future.
I even ran this solo with my energy/energy blaster that I had just transferred to my home server -- not a singly IO is in him, and he still has hasten six slotted, and the attacks with 1 acc and 5 damages. Stamina is six slotted as well. All are SOs that are +'d to make each one level 53.
And, maybe, if I can ever force myself to do it, I'll respec him and put some generic IOs and a few lotg's in him.
So, yes, not only do I recommend you solo, I recommend you not team for this one.
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Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
These signature story arcs are described by the giving NPC as a Task Force, which strongly implies they are designed for teams. Is it practical to try and solo these story arcs with anything other than a L50 toon with IOs and/or Incarnates at tier 4?
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Basically that means they were more or less designed as closed arcs for either team or solo play.
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I even ran this solo with my energy/energy blaster that I had just transferred to my home server -- not a singly IO is in him, and he still has hasten six slotted, and the attacks with 1 acc and 5 damages. Stamina is six slotted as well. All are SOs that are +'d to make each one level 53.
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Hi all!
Some friends and I are still leveling up and when we did the signature story arc I noticed that we had a choice of several rewards - hero merit, astral merit, empyrean merits...etc. So I'm wondering - should we wait until we're 50 and claim astral/empyrean merits, or go ahead and take the hero merits? What's the wisest course? Which are the harder to get? Which are the more useful?
Thanks all!!
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