I had the same thought. Makes me think people will enter the First Ward thinking it's a PvP zone, only to be let down.
To which I say "good", because PvP is dumb and anyone who feels disappointment regarding anything about the First Ward rightly deserves it.
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Same thought came to mind here. I was tempted to post as such on Kotaku. The trailer is nice and all, but it certainly is misleading.
Wow... that is kind of misleading.
It's cool and all but seriously, if I were a new player that trailer would probably lead me to believe...
- First Ward is PVP
- I can dress up like a Manslayer Ghoul, Positron, and Synapse
- The Arachnos flier can be fought outside of Grandville
And that's off the top of my head.
otherwise, it's pretty kickass.
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Kudos to the marketing team though. Not a single character in that trailer was wearing a costume that could be dupilcated by free players. Every one of them included items that needed to be paid for, and most of them were entirely composed of such pieces.
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Just like how the hoverboard pictures show characters doing all sorts of things that aren't even possible with the game engine. It's called false advertising, and it's stupid.
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Just like how the hoverboard pictures show characters doing all sorts of things that aren't even possible with the game engine. It's called false advertising, and it's stupid.
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Seems they actually contracted this one out (hence its serious standout difference from the usual COH ads), rather than doing this in-house ("in-house" referring to the NCsoft Creative Services team up at Seattle HQ). I was just happy to see it wasn't a series of 'animated patch notes'. 
Misleading or not, it's still a spiffy looking ad. *sighs, but brightens* But hey, this means that now they actually are spending $$ on the ads, which is promising!
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...I'd just like to point out that implying PvP capability like that is probably not the best idea given the status of PvP in the game
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Kind of have to add my voice to the: That's just a tad bit misleading
I don't know who did the trailer, but I really think the marketing money would have been better spent on paying Samuraiko to do a trailer.
Right, because being dramatic and entertaining should never be done to sell a product, yes?
Would someone like to point out where other game companies have done 'misleading' advertising for their games, or would that just be stating the bleeding obvious?
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Right, because being dramatic and entertaining should never be done to sell a product, yes?
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Thing is, I'd have a hard-time classifying the trailer as dramatic. The only storyline theme it tries to create is a theme that just is not present in "City of Heroes" which other players have already addressed.
I'd also have a hard-time classifying the trailer as entertaining. It's just a jumble of quick shots that... again... don't go anywhere. There is no unifying theme or point to the trailer other than a bunch of shiny keys being jangled in potential players faces.
So, in the style of Nash... let's do the math:
- Non-dramatic trailer
- Non-entertaining trailer
- Misleading elements of trailer
- Misspent marketing resources.
In all fairness most video game ads, even outright misleading and/or fraudulent ads, typically cover their rear-ends with boiler-plate statements about how game experience may differ online, or blanket statements about how sections of games shown may not be available in all countries. In most cases such boiler-plate clauses are a good enough legal shield.
To reiterate, just because a company can get a way with a misleading advertisement, doesn't mean they should. It also does not give carte-blanche to marketing companies to just do whatever they feel like doing to promote a product.
Thankfully for the ad-companies the results really come down to what the consumers think. If you think what was done was dramatic and entertaining in your opinion, and that misleading elements of an ad do not matter, then the ad-company has succeeded in reaching you.
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Really? It's a freaking trailer. It is in their nature to do things that aren't EXACTLY do able, or in the case of movies, to show things in a way just off from what actually happened.
Also, I don't think it implied PvP... I think it was simply more compelling to show a player-created villain using powers than instead to show a generic NPC doing the same. I mean, the trailer got to represent all three sides in one scene... backdrop is Praetoria and heroes are being attacked by villains. That is pretty much the premise of the game right now, nevermind that a player-made villain was standing in for an NPC.
I liked the trailer. I over-analyze EVERYTHING, and I had no problem with it as it is.
Also, LOL at the fact that it was implied that the trailer as it is breaks some law. WOW!
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Really? It's a freaking trailer. It is in their nature to do things that aren't EXACTLY do able, or in the case of movies, to show things in a way just off from what actually happened. Also, I don't think it implied PvP... I think it was simply more compelling to show a player-created villain using powers than instead to show a generic NPC doing the same. I mean, the trailer got to represent all three sides in one scene... backdrop is Praetoria and heroes are being attacked by villains. That is pretty much the premise of the game right now, nevermind that a player-made villain was standing in for an NPC. I liked the trailer. I over-analyze EVERYTHING, and I had no problem with it as it is. Also, LOL at the fact that it was implied that the trailer as it is breaks some law. WOW! |
Yeah, except in certain countries there are laws governing advertising, and misleading advertising, especially in the UK and US.
If the advert is strongly displaying/suggesting that you can do things with the product that are impossible when the product is purchased, and there is no disclaimer noting that the item is for dramatic representation only (or "not ingame footage") then they could concievably get in trouble for it with the advertising authority.
That's -why- those banner plate disclaimers exist. If they're not present here yet, then they need to be. They won't automatically get in trouble for skipping them.
But if enough people complained and the authority believed there was a case...
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None of it is misleading advertising, however. Not at any point do they claim that there is open world PvP. Not at any point do they state anything that the posters to this board, including the incredibly hyperbolic je saist, are saying that they have.
Not a one. Please tell me where in the dramatic license that they took where they not only showcased First Ward, several travel powers and powers generally, that they stated what could and could not be done.
It is a trailer, it is dramatic license. It is not advertising. Advertising is selling a product. Products must be disclosed as to what you are paying for. The primary message from the trailer is that you play free. Forever. That is true.
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...I'd just like to point out that implying PvP capability like that is probably not the best idea given the status of PvP in the game
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