Discussion: New Items at the Paragon Market - September 27, 2011
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Posted on: 2011-09-27 10:03 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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You fell prey to their marketing trap. Costume slots are very coveted, so it is only natural from a business standpoint to put them at a premium price for the people that gotta-have-it-nao, and then lower it later to entice others into buying them. I'm not attempting to insult you, just a heads-up for the future when they put a high-priced-highly-desired item on the market.|
Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
I notice the costume slots are on sale as well..
This angers me greatly. I bought one at the full price.. had I known they would go on sale so quickly.. I would have waited.. |
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Originally Posted by Blue_Shocker
So I thought Posi and Zwil said they weren't gonna nickel and dime us and so far there is what 2 new costumes sets that we have the option to buy. So does that mean from now on guys that we don't get any more new custom? Or are you gonna make us buy all the costumes now? OK so we get 400 points a month, but I was kinda under the impression as a VIP i was gonna get alot more out of being a VIP member. Kinda disappointed!
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I fully expect we will see new costume sets released with Issue updates, much like Defender and IDF were done with Issue 21, and the same goes for power sets. But since we are seeing MORE stuff, you better believe that we are going to have to pay for much of it.
My recommendation: don't buy something until you have a concept and/or character that needs it. By all means, support Paragon Studios, lord knows I will, but just be smart about it.
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Do you also get pissed off when you buy a gallon of milk at the store, then find out the next day that same gallon is on sale for $1 less? It's a sale, not a permanent price reduction. It happens.|
Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
This angers me greatly. I bought one at the full price.. had I known they would go on sale so quickly.. I would have waited..
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Anyway, look at the bright side: I paid $20 for an extra enhancement tray, and you KNOW those are going on sale at some point. So when they do, you can point and laugh at me, and I will sheepishly accept it.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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The Circle of Thorns pattern is probably the 12 piece.
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Originally Posted by Ran-san
Says there are 12 pieces to this set. I'm only counting 11.
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Wow..color me PO'ed. So they say we're gonna get all these cool NPC costume parts, but they only give us the bare freaking minimums. Not even the cool gauntlets that many of my alts would have loved to use, or the skirts with the coat tails, or long robes (even though us players have been clamoring for those forever. Seriously, what is the point of teasing us with all this cool stuff, saying that players are going to get most of the NPC stuff, then giving us the bare bones, while leaving out the coolest things that we really wanted?
Yeah, color me disappointed and PO'ed indeed.
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Originally Posted by Dawnshift
The Circle of Thorns pattern is probably the 12 piece.
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Mentally, I don't count a pattern as a costume piece, since all it is is a color mod. If that's the 12th piece, i feel kinda ripped
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I dont think pattern should count. Only it should count if you can use it on tights textures.|
Originally Posted by Ran-san
Oh.
If that's the 12th piece, I feel kinda ripped. |
Also if this costume set is the trend to follow when it comes to NPCs conversions, get used to it
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Using that same logic. I go to a retail store and make a purchase. Less than a week later the same item I purchased goes on sale. I go back to the retail store and wish to speak to management about receiving money back equal to the discount.|
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Do you also get pissed off when you buy a gallon of milk at the store, then find out the next day that same gallon is on sale for $1 less? It's a sale, not a permanent price reduction. It happens.
Anyway, look at the bright side: I paid $20 for an extra enhancement tray, and you KNOW those are going on sale at some point. So when they do, you can point and laugh at me, and I will sheepishly accept it. |
Now, it's been a while since I've actually shopped at a retail store as I do most of my shopping online. Still, less than 5 years ago this was acceptable. I guess it mostly depends on the retailer and how much of a stink one makes.
I may not get the outcome I seek, but I'm definitely going to try.
In regards to the CoT costume bundle. My guess is the good stuff will be reserved for a set of Tier 9 VIP costume packs.
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And if it were a physical retail store, you could do that, because you're face-to-face with a representative of the company. And a lot of times, they'll only give you money back if it's a permanent price break, as sales are time-limited, and you made your purchase outside of that limit.|
Originally Posted by Mystic_Fortune
Using that same logic. I go to a retail store and make a purchase. Less than a week later the same item I purchased goes on sale. I go back to the retail store and wish to speak to management about receiving money back equal to the discount.
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But it doesn't work with online retailers because of the lack of face-to-face contact. You can't complain to Amazon that the book you bought last week was discounted. (Well, you can, but it won't get you anywhere.)
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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...and we got twelve. I would have paid good money for this. It should have been sold as CoT I, CoT II, etc. That way you can sell the quickie pack to everyone who needs their hands held in the costume creator, and the "hard" packs to anyone who wants to put some effort into their costumes. |
Originally Posted by El Topo
There are literally over 70 costumes associated with this re-vamp...
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This is going to be my last comment on this topic for a while, because I know that costumes are my pet dead horse, but I really think it is worth saying one last time: The ball was really dropped on this Paragon Market content. Not buying this.
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I just realized it doesnt have the other two belts from the mages.... or the gloves.... or the longer spiker kilt.... well now that i've bought it and realized this i find myself disappointed too. Wow the more i look at that picture above i realize we got sold a stripped down lemon. Hey devs you know what can erase my disappointment? RELEASE STREET JUSTICE!
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
...and we got twelve. I would have paid good money for this. It should have been sold as CoT I, CoT II, etc. That way you can sell the quickie pack to everyone who needs their hands held in the costume creator, and the "hard" packs to anyone who wants to put some effort into their costumes.
This is going to be my last comment on this topic for a while, because I know that costumes are my pet dead horse, but I really think it is worth saying one last time: The ball was really dropped on this Paragon Market content. Not buying this. |
The 12th so-called "costume piece" is indeed the pattern, since it shows up in the store separately, but as far as I can tell it can't be used on anything other than the CoT chest/legs, which doesn't sound right at all. If it can be bought separately, it should be usable separately.
Also adding my disappointment to the pile, but I'm not sure it will make any difference. Haven't bought it yet, not sure I can think of many uses for the pieces I've seen in the costume creator so I'm not sure I will ever.
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Pity that. I was looking forward to the hat.
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Originally Posted by Obsidius
No hat, only a hood. Hat was too clippy apparently.
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if they release the other pieces in other cot packs i'll understand becuase it is alot of items but dont do it half way and give us a handful of pieces and call it done.
No robe, no hat, no purchase. Redesigned a enemy group and you still taunt us with the pieces we wanted in the first place. What a sick joke and a rip off.
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I can live with this. I would buy them as soon as they hit. Because of the amount of items in the set, I could even see that being reasonable. However, based on Posi's post I am not expecting a second CoT set. This is another spot where I would LOVE to be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Xilibrius
if they release the other pieces in other cot packs i'll understand becuase it is alot of items but don't do it half way and give us a handful of pieces and call it done.
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Like I said in the other thread, I do like the pieces we got... and I'm sure I'll get good use out of some of them... but they're just not the bits I was really looking forward to playing around with.
Not giving us any of the mage parts takes this set from an "Oh yeah! That's excellent!"-thing to an "Eh. It's okay, I guess."
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No hats, no skirts, and no wings. This pack makes me very, very sad. For the first time, ever, I'm not buying it.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
This is going to be my last comment on this topic for a while, because I know that costumes are my pet dead horse, but I really think it is worth saying one last time: The ball was really dropped on this Paragon Market content. Not buying this.
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
No robe, no hat, no purchase. Redesigned a enemy group and you still taunt us with the pieces we wantetrd in the first place. What a sick joke and a rip off.l
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Seriously.
Not cool.
At all.
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Just type "Circle" into the search.
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Originally Posted by Negate
Can someone out there show me where all the pieces are? It's not listed in the tailor yet and you have to hunt and guess where the rest of the set is.
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Maybe if they had included CoT weapons I would consider purchasing it. Especial if they didn't make the oversight of leaving one of the weapon sets out of the costume.
I'm still highly annoyed that EVERY weapon set got a Celestial weapon option except Ninja Blade and Claws. And the fact that the Barbarian set didn't include Katana, Ninja Blade, Claws, or Dual Blades is going to make me more cautious about purchasing a new costume set until I have verified that if there is a particular weapon left out it's not one I was thinking about using.
No wings.
Skirts/Kilts it does have.