A Thorny Sneakpeak?

All a pack does is provide convenience. A lot of them don't really offer all that much of a discount, anyway. So whether this thing gets sold in three packs or in 30 packs, I'm thinking the overall price will be the same, it'll just mean I have to go hunting the pieces of it one by one. Which, in turn, I might not need to do because if Paragon Studios won't make their packs worth the 400 PP, then I'll just leave them ALL unbought and just buy whatever piece I happen to need at the time I happen to need it. Simple as that.

I wanted to buy all the packs as they come out, but they have to do better than that for me to start doing it again.

Honestly, I don't see it. It's more rubbery leather that shines when you walk at an angle to a light source. If anything, I like the stuff from the Barbarian set a lot more as that's more fur and rough leather than this finish. Plus the skirt is more than a bit too busy, just because the CoT pieces are intentionally busy by design. I'll think about it, but I ended up putting my barbarian girl in animal hide pants.

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Nice costume, though, but feed that girl some stronger food. She's wasting out!

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Tried that costume with the Barbarian ring belt and barbarian plain furry boots?
Looks like that would match more, maybe? Even some barbarian shoulders.
Just a suggestion

Can't do the shoulders, she's already wearing different ones for concept reasons.

Didn't want to wear the ring belt, just wanted something that looked more like "finishing off" the top of the kilt. It has a weirdly abrupt look without the belt.

And I hate the furry boots, they're too Santa-y. I actually really like the Resistance boots because they look like they're just kinda patched together from worn old leather. Not really a match for the Resistance tech look, but great (IMO) for someone on the primitive side

Can they just lock long skirt from costume option if someone choose MA, if they don't trust us enough to know not to use it with that set.

And we have pencil skirt option - does it cause clipping issues with MA?? Have to try. If it does - there is no reason not to have long skirt. No other power set should have problem with it.

- Il Numero Uno (The Number One)

Wait, are you talking about the high-heel boots or the flat ones? I don't think the flat boots for women have a fur trim, though they do look mire like your feet are wrapped up than like you're wearing boots. I'm not sure what works better for you, but they go well with the Tribal shield.

As for the Resistance boots, they do look like they're stitched together, but they have a VERY aggressive sole with a VERY obvious thread pattern, even from the side. I've used them on a few characters, and they always look like modern boots to me. They look good on your design, of course, but that's my excuse for not using them on tribal designs.

Well, OK, that and Brutticus kind of needs to have big hands and big feet. I mean, look at her:



That axe is HUGE, and the hilt is too wide to grasp with women's small hands, and most of the female boots are really small, too. If I want big hands and big feet, then Big/Banded boots and gloves are the ONLY real option for a barbarian look. Also, I don't think the CoT skirt or even the Barbarian skirt really goes well with those pants.

That's my problem more than it is a problem of the sets, though.

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By the way, I still like those abs better than what's on the Barbarian chest, but it's a start

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Circular problem.

You show us cool set and promise us some pieces.

We fixate on stuff we don't have and want it.

We don't have it because it clips or can't be rigged or w/e, so we don't get it AGAIN.

We complain.

Next set comes along...

See: IDF heavy armor with spine thing and armored collar, IDF hip pouches, IDF antenna backpack, CoT long robes, CoT popehat, CoT back spikes...

It's funny that the CoT were partially redesigned because players wanted their costumes but couldn't use them, so they were redesigned with costumes players still can't use. If that wasn't the point, then I'm not sure the redesign gained all that much.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I actually made a post about the long skirts and MA issue earlier- I have an MA scrapper who wants that skirt. How could he avoid looking silly if the long skirt does weird things with the MA kick animations? Well, I could ignore the odd behavior, as my scrapper only spends a second or two in the most convoluted poses. Or I could select the alternate MA animations for that one costume slot, the ones which are mostly punch-based, thus solving the kicking problem. Or make a costume for RP'ing, socializing, and costume contests, changing into a more practical outfit when entering combat. But even if the long skirt does look kind of odd with some of the regular MA animations, that should be my choice about whether or not to use it.

Seriously- when they released the high collared cape with the magic pack, they warned us that it clipped badly with almost every single shoulder detail in the game. And far from whining about said clipping, players ate that costume piece right up, I think the magic pack cape is one of the more popular cape styles out there, to be honest! And clipping or no, some players still equip shoulder armor with that cape, finding options where the clipping works for the costume, or is acceptable.
And even though the celestial belt with the front and back skirt tails clips horribly with almost every skirt in the game, it's not locked out if you select skirt as your bottom, probably because there are a couple of tight skirt styles it does work with.

So please give us more of the CoT set. Warn us all you want that some parts will clip when combined with some other pieces (I suspect those long skirts we're clamoring for will clip with the bulky boot styles, such as ascension and valkyrie), but let us have them, so we can impress you with combos that look cool. And if anyone DOES try to ruin things by complaining about clipping, that's why the phrase "I told you so!" exists.

And the CoT jeweled belt that all the bosses have, the different variations of gloves and boots... they've skimped out!

To be fair, those don't fall under "stuff we don't have", just "different, sweet looking varieties of what we already have"

The IDF heavy armor has a very high collar. I'm guessing that was the problem.

Ahh, but then you get into the whole issue of people will begin complaining I want such and such hair.. and why are you forcing me to wear this hair when the only thing I want is this hat.. blah ...blah...blah rinse and repeat. Not saying that this isn't a good idea. But you can see where i'm going with this.

You're going nowhere. This is true for every hat in the game. Anyone who expected the CoT hat to be the one exception out of the entire creator was badly deluding themselves. If they had gone with this excuse it would have been even worse than Positron's already lame "no clipping" attempt.

And this is different from every other hat added to the game in the last seven years how, exactly?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Sorry Venture, those shoulderpads clip. We're going to have to revoke all the costume parts.

I already bought the pack because I wanted the shoulders for one alt and the belt for another. I was putting around wondering if I'd get any use out of the skirt. What you made here gives me new hope for the parts. I like the look!

I'm sure the reason you guys do this is because it's a "you can't win" scenario, from a certain viewpoint. If you create costume parts that clip people will complain about how they clip. So you strive to make parts that won't clip. I don't see this as taking the right path.

The thing is, tons of parts already clip, and every new part you add just means more chance for clipping. You're going to reach a point where you can't add any new parts if there's a rule on not clipping, because some sort of jutting chest part or shoulderpad or wacky belt is going to be in the way all the time. You know those barbarian parts you just added? The boots clip with most skirts. So what's the difference?

If you really want to make this a rule, you need to only look at two major things. One, the part doesn't clip with itself or the model it's on (some of the victorian parts did this and they were fixed). Two, the part doesn't clip with other pieces from the same set. Other than that? It doesn't matter if it clips. Bolero clips with a ton of things. So does the high collar cape. So do the fancy skirts and big boots.

Your reasoning doesn't really make sense. You're saving us from inflicting pain upon ourselves? You're preventing clipping so we don't make costumes that clip and then dislike it? This is like removing the Incarnate system so we don't make bad choices. Why can't we be allowed to make those decisions ourselves? If we create costumes that clip, don't you think we'll just not use those parts together? Or if we do, not care that they clip (as some posters have already shown examples of in this thread -- I have a toon with some intentional clipping myself).

Let the players have that freedom. So what if they clip? If parts clip, players are either going to deal with it or use different parts. The alternative of not giving us that part is all is the wrong decision.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

This utter brain-fart seems to evade certain Devs, even after this much justified annoyance and feedback...

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.