Freedom Freespec?
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AquaJAWS,
Posted on: 2011-08-30 06:36 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
No word yet, but I give it a 99% chance of happening.
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There hasn't been any word about it yet afaik but if any issue deserves a freespec this one does. It will be delivered through the paragon market and all current subscribers will be receiving 400-1200 points so they don't have to give it to us free but since there are a few changes to sets I think they will be making free respecs available.
I'll go with Zombie Man on this one and say that the liklihood of a Freespec with the release of Freedom is extremely high. Typically, if they make changes to powersets that a large number of existing characters are likely to benefit by taking advantage of, they give a freespec. Both the ability to take travel powers at level 4 without a prerequisite, as well as the addition of new powers to those same pools both seem like things that a lot of existing characters will benefit from. Therefore, if the patterns of the past hold true, we should be seeing a freespec.
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Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme
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With the change to patron/epic pools and the new travel pool powers, not to mention the poison changes, I would be really shocked if there wasn't a freespec.
Energy Aura also has significant changes. For that reason alone I would think a respec is in order.
IIRC, pretty much every issue they don't announce that there will be a freespec until very close to the last minute (I remember also at least once that they didn't announce it until after they already granted it, resulting in them deciding to give a second). At this point, it doesn't seem like this one will be any different 
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
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I dont remember any issues that didnt have freespecs, at least while i have been playing. To me its almost something that just comes with issues, maybe in the future it will be a VIP only thing.
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Generally they TRY to announce the free-spec issue about a week in advance. Sometimes they're a little late. Although with the new market system, they may deliver them through that and they may be able to stack, unlike now, which is the purpose of the week advance notice. My guess is if we hear a free-spec announcement that issue 21 will be going live in about a week of that announcement.
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The last time I recall an issue that didn't give a freespec was issue 3... every other issue has granted one, and one or two recently have granted two, usually one when the issue goes live and another a week or two later.|
Originally Posted by ultrawatt
I dont remember any issues that didnt have freespecs, at least while i have been playing. To me its almost something that just comes with issues, maybe in the future it will be a VIP only thing.
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Based on the long standing tradition I would be shocked if we didn't get at least one freespec with issue 21. It costs them nothing and it's something they've done every issue for the last 6+ years. We may or may not get a second freespec a week or two later but it's nearly certain we'll get one when i21 launches.
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Well, there has been code to allow free-specs to stack for a while, but as far as I know it only applied to the bonus free-spec from the villain-side patron arcs. No other free-specs stack, but it is theoretically possible to re-purpose the patron-spec code.|
Originally Posted by AquaJAWS
Generally they TRY to announce the free-spec issue about a week in advance. Sometimes they're a little late. Although with the new market system, they may deliver them through that and they may be able to stack, unlike now, which is the purpose of the week advance notice. My guess is if we hear a free-spec announcement that issue 21 will be going live in about a week of that announcement.
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I've always assumed they just didn't want to. Not that they couldn't.
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Given the changes to EA, particularly the stalker version, I feel safe in saying we'll get one.
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Originally Posted by Rodion
Energy Aura also has significant changes. For that reason alone I would think a respec is in order.
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Energy aura is only available to a few ATs.
The other changes, which I mentioned above, are available for every single character (Travel powers at 4... epic pools at 35). That seems more like a reason for a respec for all players... than a change that only impacts a few.
Why would the changes to ONE PARTICULAR POWERSET that only a few members of an archetype likely have justify a global power respecification?
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They're also changing regen and the power pools. A respec seems needed and very likely.
With all the changes that are coming,. I'd expect a freespec at launch followed by ANOTHER Free respec a week or two afterwards. This has been done before and ish 21 and all it's changes may well need to offer us 2 freespecs.
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IF they give us two, as Nericus suggests they might, I offer one helpful tip to those who are new and may not have gotten or used freespecs before. Use the first respec on all the characters you plan to before they issue the second one. A character can only have ONE "Freespec" at a time. If you haven't used the first one, you won't get the second one. Of course, if you didn't use the first one already, you probably don't need two to begin with. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
With all the changes that are coming,. I'd expect a freespec at launch followed by ANOTHER Free respec a week or two afterwards. This has been done before and ish 21 and all it's changes may well need to offer us 2 freespecs.
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Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme
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The free-spec is different from the respec that the villains get from unlocking the patron pools.|
Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Well, there has been code to allow free-specs to stack for a while, but as far as I know it only applied to the bonus free-spec from the villain-side patron arcs. No other free-specs stack, but it is theoretically possible to re-purpose the patron-spec code.
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From my understanding (in the past)
There are respecs you earn in game that stack...these can be from vet rewards, trials, recipies, the patron pools, i'm sure there are more...
Then there are dev/ocr/powers-that-be granted respecs that are free ones they grant when, basically, they change the game under our feet...which have been called freespecs.
Two different systems. Respecs gained through the game, and respecs gained from being given to us from the game-runners. The respec from earning access to a patron power falls under the first category. Free-specs fall under the second category, and go through a completely different system than the in-game ones.
When they release a new issue and change a bunch of powers enough so that it would cause someone to build differently with the new changes, they give the players a free-spec.
The free-specs, historically, have only been able to be applied as one per character...period. No stacking. Since dual and triple builds have come about they've basically put one out, waited a week, then put another out, waited another week, then put the third out, so that players could respec all of their builds as needed. The assumption was if you didn't use it, apparently you didn't need the respec that bad or you would have used it. You can still access it, but if you still have it, you can't get another one. It worked ok unless you did need it and you missed the announcement, but most people who did need it and are that into the game knew to watch the forums for the announcements so it worked out in most cases.
With the new account/character reward system, they might start issuing the free-specs through that, which could very easily allow stacking, and be much more beneficial to the players.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
No word yet, but I give it a 99% chance of happening.
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Far too many things are being changed to not give us one. Possibly up to 3.
With new powers in travel pools and APPs being available 6 levels earlier, that is going to change things for a LOT of characters.
I will be absolutely shocked if we DON'T get at least one freespec in i21.
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Originally Posted by Lxndr
Why would the changes to ONE PARTICULAR POWERSET that only a few members of an archetype likely have justify a global power respecification?
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It'd be kind of a dick move to say: "Oh, we completely changed your powerset, but if you want to change it you better have a respec banked. We don't care if it broke your character, you aren't getting the opportunity to change it unless you earn it."
More to the point: They've handed out freespecs when there was LESS of a change happening than one powerset getting revamped.
I don't remember an issue release that didn't have one.
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I agree with Claws. We will be getting a respec with this issue.
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Because I have never seem them demonstrate that they have the ability to only grant a freespec to certain people.
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Originally Posted by Lxndr
Why would the changes to ONE PARTICULAR POWERSET that only a few members of an archetype likely have justify a global power respecification?
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Even if they had the ability to grant respecs only to certain people why would the dev team want to spend the man power to either manually grant the repsec to the toons with powersets that had changes or code a script to find and grant a respec to those same toons?
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Originally Posted by rsclark
Because I have never seem them demonstrate that they have the ability to only grant a freespec to certain people.
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The inevitable nerfs to accuracy each issue are actually triggered by using the freespec.
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When I left, about half the Issues came with a free respecification for all characters; usually these were issues when things changed significantly for a goodly portion of the possible players.
Of course, this time around, they're letting us take a travel power at level 4, and adjusting the top power pools so that they're available at 35. This is kind of a significant change.
Has there been any word on whether or not a free respecification will happen at I21?
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