What Brute Primary Can Compete With SS For Farming?

So whats your best time with your ss/fa on cyborg 4/8? Cuz most /fa i see i ask and about 99% of the population answers between 5-7 mins..

I just wanna see how mine compares to the majority

i start my time after my veng bait has gone and died and i run down the stairs..cuz why start time if your not killing?

i played a few new maps for Pl'ing and ya there are bigger and more enemies in some other maps..however running around caves or in the plane hanger trying to gather all the guys can get annoying. I use mu lightning and i never have to move much at all on cyborgs. i jsut shoot the breakables..and its ez. I was moving more in some other maps.

Also i like cyborg just cuz i can also use it as a quick tix farm as i PL..so i make more INF on sales from rolls.

I love how other people took care of that XD

The forums know its ****, the game doesnt

I dig my DM/FA brute too. I was wondering if you have a Mids build that can farm & PvE. I went with DM/FA/Fire I spent about a billion on the build and he holds up pretty good on lvl 54 fire cave farms but still needs inspirations to hold up and in PvE goes down pretty fast.
Any help would be great. Oh, and what incarnates should a brute of this nature go with?
Thank You!

I would like to see PBaRmy do a video of a run - not because I want to attack him like so many people seem to be doing for no reason in this thread, but just because I want to see what a high level DM/FA is like.

I imagine TW/FA would be quite effective as well, TW/FA/MU even more so. TW brings four AoEs to the table (Three cones and one PBAoE) and when your neck deep in targets you don't NEED to aim a cone, just swing for the fences. In addition if you have Momentum built up redraw is a non issue.

ON the down side, you do need to worry about the Momentum mechanic, and if you really, REALLY hate redraw then this isn't for you.

I want spines brutes already

There are so many ways to farm, but Claws is definitely a great set to do so. If you are willing to invest heavily into your build you can have some success with Dark Melee, because Soul Drain lets you keep a nasty dmg buff active permanently (30 sec duration / 120 sec recharge) without crashing like Rage, or interupting your AoEs constantly like Follow Up. CLAWS AND SS AREN'T BAD SETS, but Dark Melee is attractive for another good dmg buff option without those obvious drawbacks, and another endurance siphon power on the same recharge as consume. That means you should never run out of endurance, which is good because you'll be locked into certain Epics like Mu to take all the AoEs you'll need, since Dark Melee only gives you one in Shadow Maul. DM / FA / Mu works, it just requires a lot of recharge. Claws is a lot easier to build though.

Wow at the folks jumping all over the DM guy....and for the "ego" he seems to have, I'd defend myself too if folks came at me the same way. If he wouldn't have posted a time, folks what ask him what it was...now that he has, he's bragging. Can't win here, can you?

Anyway...

I have a Fire/Fire/MU on Exalted, and a Elec/Fire/Mu on Freedom. My Alt Account has a SS/Fire as well - they're all pretty comparable honestly. Rage crash is no fun, but it makes for small window to use Consume/Judgement/Destiny/etc. Of the three I enjoy my Elec/Fire/Mu the most b/c of the fun I have with LS. TS with the FF Proc also helps keep it up pretty often (every 23 seconds or so) and like many others have said all you really need is Burn/BlazingAura/ElecFences/Ball Lightning to keep you churning along....anything primary will work - to a less efficient extent.

I had an Claws/Fire but deleted it at 45 b/c I just couldn't stand the redraw anymore. I have a DM/Fire at 43ish in Champion - hopefully it'll be finished soon. In a typical PvE environment I can see DM offering a solid performance with Soul Drain, strong single target and enough AoE from the rest of your Secondary/Epic to keep things under control. The extra bonus of -to hit, another +endu power and a self-heal in your ST chain are just gravy.

I have a Electric/FA/Soul brute that i use mainly for trials and farming. Darkest Night on trials is sweet. I would take MU of course if it were strictly farming as it provides better DPS (as i did on my ss/fa). The rest of the build is strictly a farm build. I have to say, while it doesn't AOE the hell out of everything like SS does, my completion times are not far off and survivability is actually better because of soul mastery (not that it matters in a fire farm anyway if you're soft capped). When doing 4X8 farms, the minions and LT's just melt while i'm pounding on the bosses anyway. While the single target attacks don't match KB blow, they are fast activating and better on endurance (I don't even have to look at my blue bar and don't even need consume for endurance purposes). I do notice as a whole that SS/FA/MU (my other toon) eats endurance like crazy. That is even with a fully IO'd build, and top tier Vigor incarnate power. So, i would strongly recommend Electric primary if you are looking for something different.

Titan Weapons seems to work fairly well, even on a non-fire. I've run my TW/Elec through a few energy farms, and he runs at fast pace. I wouldn't be surprised if a TW/Fire would be comparable to SS, though probably a bit trickier to use, as timing the momentum mechanic and making use of the cones will require more work than spamming 4 AoE attacks.

The upside of Titan Weapons is that at the damage cap, a TW will be better than SS because WS does virtually the same damage as FS with a much faster recharge (14 seconds compared to 20). The challenge, however, is that TW has to balance momentum and needs 160% more damage to reach the cap, though it won't suffer from rage crashes. Either way, it should be a plausible alternative for someone tired of the SS/Fire FoF (Flavor of Forever).

I've made a prototype farming build for my TW/FF that ditches the ST targets and grabs the two AoEs from Mu. I have no idea what sort of damage it would put out, but if you consider 3 cones, 2 PBAoEs, Two TAoEs plus a Judgement Pyro.... Plus a damage aura, Firey Embrace, Build Momentum...

I imagine it could do very well for itself.

Mind the normal build for most content is pure TW/FA with the ST attacks. Just tossing it out there.

hmmm what set do i want to see nerfed next ?
by giving the Devs a reason to look at them by the title of this thread
i like my rubber chicken mele / emo armor brute for farming

Axe Melee, but only if you use the shovel.

Sadly, Dual Blades does not include paired garden spades.