Freedom is driving me INSANE!!!


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Must... resist... posting... Time Warp... Song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dUhIoKUzO0

(what? were you expecting something else?)
Why do I suddenly see a group of Time Manipulators in Atlas park doing the Time Warp on the first day of freedom?


 

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I don't think it's a trend. The games where microtransactions have caused the most destruction are the ones where the developers have modified the game to maximize the amount of money they make. When they lower xp and drops and then sell you temp "xp boost" and rare items in the cash shop to make up for it; it's like another set of taxes.

I think the drive in Freedom is to make subscribing more than worth your money. Why else would they be giving subscribers $5.00 in paragon points + a free char transfer (worth $10.00 in PP) + a subscriber reward token every month?
Because they're being paid subscription money to develop content, and then charge you additional money to actually get the content you already paid for?
I'm curious to see just how much new content is going to be gated behind paragon points from now on.

Incidentally, "free character transfer is worth $10.00 in pp"... Says who? Who decided how much that was worth? Paragon Studios did. Let me know when I can trade in my totally worthless (to me) monthly character transfer for another 800 paragon points.

Call me a cynic but I don't think ANY company, ever, has gone to a F2P+Microtransaction business model because they want to give out more content for less money. And yet it is ALWAYS sold to the customer as just that. Customizable experience and all that absolute rubbish.

Don't get me wrong; we both know that it could definitely be worse, and coming from EVE the prices for costume parts look a lot more reasonable. That's why I'm going to wait and see where it goes.


 

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Two words:

WANT. NOW.
so play the beta tonight.


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I'm curious to see just how much new content is going to be gated behind paragon points from now on.
Might I suggest you look at both Turbine and Cryptic as two examples of hybrid games that use money from the store for development.

Both of them have ungated content and both of them have purchasable content. I'm not seeing the issue.

Oh and if you are a paying subscriber then the gated content is and remains free, you only have to pay for it if you are not paying to play the game. How is that unfair? If you are not paying a monthly fee for the game why should they give you free access to new content?


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Oh and if you are a paying subscriber then the gated content is and remains free, you only have to pay for it if you are not paying to play the game. How is that unfair? If you are not paying a monthly fee for the game why should they give you free access to new content?
Excuse me.

First of all, Paragon Studios is a big boy now, and they certainly don't need you to so eagerly jump to their defense... but maybe you'll get some more paragon points out of it.

Second of all, I am currently a paying subscriber and plan to remain so.
Some of the "gated content" will remain free... Others will be locked behind paragon points, and so unless they release it slowly or cheaply enough that you can buy it with your "free" paragon points, you'll have to either wait for some of it, or pay for it on top of your subscription. BUT, I don't know if they'll do that yet, and might I remind you, NEITHER DO YOU.

Third of all, I in no way implied that what they are doing is unfair.

The only thing that I've said is that I'll see where they go with it.

Personally I think it's bizarre that there seems to be a community of people thrilled to pay additional money for something that used to just come with the subscription.


 

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Personally I think it's bizarre that there seems to be a community of people thrilled to pay additional money for something that used to just come with the subscription.
We used to BARELY get 3-4 new powersets a year. From the ramp up it seems we will be getting a lot more than that. I'll happily pay if it means we end up getting 10-12 (or more) powersets that we most assuredly would NOT be getting if it weren't for COH FREEDOM.

And correct me if I'm wrong by the last few powersets we did get were locked behind a PAID EXPANSION: GR.

Soooo, no not everything used to just come with the subscription.


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Soooo, no not everything used to just come with the subscription.
Plus we can use our "free" points to get stuff that you once had to pay for, like things included in Booster Packs.

So it might mean more choice for everyone.

*waits to see*


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I know that we have had several free issues. I know that the anticipation has always been large for new shiny stuff. I know that we all wish and pray and refresh the beta server hoping that we got an invite.

BUT THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!

The freedom issue is probably the biggest issue not only in content but UI improvements, graphical improvements, and changing the way the game is played by making it free. I look at the beta login screen and just gets chills by the new shiny login buttons. I see all the images of the new store and character creator( which hasn't really changed in some time) and i go nuts. I have friends that haven't played because of financial issues and are dying to return to play there villains and heroes. I literally cant freaking wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT IS ALL

Anyone else feel the same?
Very soon my friend you'll be able to log onto the Beta server and get a taste of Freedom!


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And here I was expecting a rant about AE in Atlas.



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very soon my friend you'll be able to log onto the beta server and get a taste of freedom! :d


cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

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Everybody make sure you have your Beta client updated!


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Everybody make sure you have your Beta client updated!
Preloaded last night.


 

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OMG OMG! Finally figured out file sharing in Win7! Patched Beta on old comp for no reason yesterday as I didn't know; 3 hrs to install on new computer? Turn on file sharing--> copying now--> Yahtze!!


 

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I want Freedom to release before a certain other MMO involving laser swords and mind tricks, so my friends might get hooked again before it's too late.
THIS.

The above post is more important then alot of people realize.


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