ReeeeeeeGGGGeeeeennnnnn!!!!

I played a /regen Stalker for some time before they were buffed, and even then the only time I was ever short of a 'way out' power was in the midst of a colossal EB/AV brawl that just kept going. If I could brawl with that sort of enemy with the old Stalker health, I daresay a Brute can do so damned well, because the only thing that reliably killed me was taking huge instant damage before I could click things.

/Regen is a very active powerset, so you have to be really on the ball. You have, sans Katana primary, maybe 40% the rolling standard survivability of a modest Brute. But, this is because you have traded in your panic button for a whole damned panic keyboard. You can literally mash the numpad if things go wrong and have a good chance of living.

You guys keep thinking that all you want, scrapper playstyle and brute playstyle are entirely different because your team will be looking at you to take the lead as a brute and due to the way fury mechanics are. So your saying you can readily before fully IOed out take on 8 man spawns and not break a sweat for an entire mission? I do not believe this for one minute on this powerset. For those who are only looking at the IOed out regen, think about this you have to crawl before you can run. The ride to 50 is not going to be as smooth as you make it out to be. I can easily see where you can die within the first 30 seconds after using all said cool downs. Hell I see this all the time on the ITF where regens get squished all the time and this isnt even during the AV fight. You can have all the reflexes and perfect timing in the world but if too many things hit you at the same time your squished end of story. All I am saying is this DO NOT base regens performance on tricked out IO builds and think its going to be fine when you know 1-49 or up until you IO it out is not going to be fine. Otherwise we end up with powersets that we beg to get fixed for the next 5 to 6 years, like energy aura, trick arrow, and gravity control.

Regen is one of those sets that make you wonder, "Why didn't Brutes get it in the first place?" Long time coming IMO.

I'm gonna side with EvilRyu (!) on that one. As always he's using hyperbole but the gist of the point, that regen isn't as survivable as other secondaries given the same investment, I agree with. I don't feel like arguing for it though.

That said, even feeling that way, if it gets an aggro aura in Integration I'll definitely play it on brutes. With more and more content becoming heal/HP/regen based (Apex BM, towers in BAF, Nova Fist in Lambda, Keyes pulses/disintegration) and with defense being so easy to stack with buffs, insps, incarnate powers or even IOs, it can be an interesting and different alt to play. Plus, with SS/Fire being so dominating for damage output and */SD for survivability, I now accept any melee character I make that isn't either one won't be a top performer and that leaves me freedom to play more stuff.

So, in answer to the OP, yes, I'm stoked. Wouldn't touch regen on a scrapper, mostly because of the lack of aggro aura thing, but on brutes it might just be fun.

The thing to remember is that regeneration (the mechanic, not the set) works by a % of max HP. Brutes have more HP, so regen will be more survivable on a Brute than Scrapper.

I'll just add something like Stone/regen should be good. Fault gives you much needed mitigation and time to use a click power if need be.

Its funny you say that because ever since issue 5 I have never seen a regen as the last man standing. If anything they have been the first to hit the pavement. I get that you do want to say the game is balanced around IOs but I do not think we should be judging whether this powerset needs help or not based on some extreme IO builds thats what I am saying. Not everyone is going to have the time or money to build for that. Personally I dispise the regen due to the clicky nature of it. Its like playing an empath but for yourself, and lets not forget the horrible effect of re-draw. I will be still testing the set despite all of this but I do not think regen is going to work for brutes unless there are some changes from the scrapper version.

Have they said anything about how the titan mechanic works yet? A titan/regen sounds fun to me if the clickies dont ruin the momentum.

Regen needs a couple changes. I love my em/regen stalker and I would enjoy a regen brute, but nowadays without an IO'd build WITH the incarnate barrier I think regen is probably the weakest set on a scrapper and would be on a brute.

Proposed changes:

1. Integration gets a taunt aura.
2. Instant Healing is returned to a toggle. Retains current healing power.

MoG's duration remains 15 seconds seconds with a fixed recharge of 1:45 minutes.

I think this would make regen ONLY on SO's the strongest of all sets.

After IO sets it would still be very strong, but not too crazy even with full on instant healing running all the time and across the board 20-25% defense because it still cannot resist damage.

Obviously it would be even stronger on a brute than a scrapper, but as has been mentioned brutes are basically the tanks of CoV.

Fully IO'd it still would not be stronger than my /Inv brute that pulls over soft capped defenses in 5+ man spawns, has 70% s/l resist and 23-24% across the board resists with over 3k hp and a 3 minute godmode power.

Would it really be asking too much?

Back when inventions didn't exist I would have said yes. Now with inventions and even more so with the uber incarnate powers I don't think it is.

With today's IO's and incarnate possibilities I think making IH a toggle would be way too much, seems like it would just be far too overpowered. I will agree that Regen needs Integration to pick up a taunt aura but besides that I think it will compete just fine in survivability with all the other sets (note I said compete, not be better or worse than any other set).