I've always wanted to ask this of someone in your position.
Is it really bliss?
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Hold on, I need to catch my breath!
Whew!
Laughing too hard. Thought I'd die for a second there.
I assume this is a joke or troll post, so I'll just say, "no", and leave it at that.
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Two words. Hell. No.
For one, a tanker and a brute are not "exactly the same". Tankers are still the only AT with Ice Melee/Ice Armor. Tankers have more survivability, and have "bruising" now, which is essentially a permanent, substantial (forget whether it's 20 or 30%) resistance debuff on their primary target.
For defenders vs. corruptors, when I can play a Psychic/Empathy corruptor, your argument might start to hold water, but even then, the difference in buffs and debuffs between corruptors and defenders is substantial.
If anything, a "this AT is better in teams" warning would be the only thing that should be done.
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Funny, I enjoy playing Defenders more than Corruptors, and Tankers more than Brutes. I'm fully aware of the numbers. I just have more fun on the 'obsolete' archetypes. 
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Why do the job halfway?
Get rid of all the power sets that don't do 'enough' damage too.
Forcefield, empathy, sonic control...
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As did NEW COKE, but look where it is
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To the OP, your request will forever be denied. Some people prefer their inferior archetypes. For example: I have a peacebringer.
/checks his toggles
//hits elude anyway
Be well, people of CoH.
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Rooming with Edsel?
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I lol'd.
When you can show me a Brute that can take as much punishment and hold as much aggro as a comparable Tanker can (i.e. similar/same power sets), come back. If anything, it would make more sense to get rid of the Brute, since it could be considered the middle ground AT between Scrappers and Tankers. But that notion is only slightly less crazy.
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I lol'd.
When you can show me a Brute that can take as much punishment and hold as much aggro as a comparable Tanker can (i.e. similar/same power sets), come back. If anything, it would make more sense to get rid of the Brute, since it could be considered the middle ground AT between Scrappers and Tankers. But that notion is only slightly less crazy. |
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When I'm shuffling teams for Lambda Sector, if they're available, I usually put 2 Brutes on one team to balance the one Tank on the other 
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Defenders values for the former is higher... no amount of equal enhancing on Cold Domination will make it as potent on Corruptors than Defenders
Sure the corruptor will chug out more damage than the defender, but thats not really the point here.
Likewise, tanker/brute, no amount of equal enhancing will bring a brutes survivability to match the tankers, yes in this regard you probably can use IOs to close the gap, but tankers will always have that headstart in surviveability.
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Likewise, tanker/brute, no amount of equal enhancing will bring a brutes survivability to match the tankers, yes in this regard you probably can use IOs to close the gap, but tankers will always have that headstart in surviveability.
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Tankers cap at 35** hit points. We can't hit that with just dull pain anymore, but with the accolades, sure.
No amount of buffing can close that 300 hit point gap.
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Now that the game is going free to play in an effort to attract new players, and Issue 21 will allow everyone to start any AT on either side, it's time to get rid of Defenders and Tankers.
Defenders and Tankers are obsolete ATs. There's no real point to them now. Everything they can do, a Corruptor and Brute can do just as well while pumping out more damage. Best to just get rid of them so new players don't wind up making them, only to play them and become bitterly disappointed that their Corruptor and Brute cohorts do more damage and are just as survivable. For current Defenders and Tankers, issue a one time AT and power set respec token and force them to use it when they next log on. Like I tell anyone that considers rolling a Tanker... "Make a Brute. They're like Tankers... but fun!" |
This.
Who said that i was that scary! ಠ_ಠ
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Originally Posted by MrDead
Get rid of all the power sets that don't do 'enough' damage too.
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having been an above average (not great) tanker that regularly hung out with at least two masters of the AT, I gotta say, brutes are fun, yes, and have high defenses as well and even have something like gauntlet but still
nothing compares to a tanker for survivability and aggro control
really
brutes are a good second blocker, and they make good mook-clearers, especially since they tend to have more AoE than scrappers
general thoughts on the melee is that tankers are main block, brutes are satellite/second block, scrappers are boss killers/satellites and stalkers are boss killers
as for defenders NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
granted, they have way more buff than almost anyone would have needed before they put in some of the limits at the high end, and a lot of my family thinks that Dark, Rad, Trick and Storm should have been the model for Defender while FF, Empathy, Kinetics and Sonic the model for Controllers (ie, Defender buff/debuff be more aggressive and active as compared to Controller secondary buff/debuff be more preparatory and stable)
but you are not taking my defenders from me
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How can we get rid of a set we don't currently have?
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Apparently I'm to stupid right now to make an awesome link with a picture and stuff but neverthelss sign the petition! [u]http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes[u]
I've got no words..but this is my reaction:
yer..somehow..somereason..i looked for logic there..all i found was laughter..
Really...lol ....seriously! ... it's not even the weekend
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don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.
Now that the game is going free to play in an effort to attract new players, and Issue 21 will allow everyone to start any AT on either side, it's time to get rid of Defenders and Tankers.
Defenders and Tankers are obsolete ATs. There's no real point to them now. Everything they can do, a Corruptor and Brute can do just as well while pumping out more damage. Best to just get rid of them so new players don't wind up making them, only to play them and become bitterly disappointed that their Corruptor and Brute cohorts do more damage and are just as survivable.
For current Defenders and Tankers, issue a one time AT and power set respec token and force them to use it when they next log on.
Like I tell anyone that considers rolling a Tanker... "Make a Brute. They're like Tankers... but fun!"
@Celestial Lord and @Celestial Lord Too