Freedom to have staged downloads, hop into char creator as the game downloads
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Posted on: 2011-06-22 05:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Necrotron
It's got free to play, they've revamped Atlas and Galaxy (at least) to look as bad and frame-rate-murdering as Praetoria
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Originally Posted by Necrotron
Some have said the constant upgrades to the game are akin to putting lipstick on a pig. At this point, it's rather more like pig on a lipstick; there is very little left of the original pig. More like a cow, I guess.
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But as for the ability to get into the game to some extent is not too bad of a deal... if your box can multitask that load...
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Originally Posted by Necrotron
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/ci...wnload-system/
Okay, so let me get this straight. It's got free to play, they've revamped Atlas and Galaxy (at least) to look as nice as Praetoria, and you can hop in to play while the rest of the game downloads. I'd almost call the game an attention *****. "Play me! PLAY ME! PLAY MEEEE!" Some have said the constant upgrades to the game are akin to putting lipstick on a pig. At this point, it's rather more like pig on a lipstick; there is very little left of the original pig. More like a cow, I guess. |
Seriously, I can not make heads or tails of that screed. How do you make the ludicrous mental leap from "game downloads in the background" to "attention ******"? Downloading in the background is what's known worldwide as a "time saver". AKA, not having to look at a damn loading screen for a minute and a half.
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Once again games, or anything for that matter, downloading stuff without my consent on my computer is something I have an issue with.
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You launch the updater and you have problems with it installing updates?
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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight
Once again games, or anything for that matter, downloading stuff without my consent on my computer is something I have an issue with.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
You launch the updater and you have problems with it installing updates?
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Yes.
I have problems with it not telling me what its downloading, or how big the file is.
Once again not everyone has unlimited broadband.
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Agreed. I didn't mean to mock the system, I was only implying a common theme. As City of Heroes Freedom costs no money to try, it becomes an impulse play, allowing anyone with a passing interest to have a go. The staged download system (employed successfully by many other MMOs) feeds into this, plonking passers by into the headline feature of the costume creator as fast as possible. This makes a lot of sense, given that people spend oodles of their time in the creator anyway. By the time you're finished, the new Galaxy City co-op tutorial will have downloaded, throwing you into the glorious new artwork and introductory missions as well written and engaging as Praetoria.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
What are you talking about?
Seriously, I can not make heads or tails of that screed. How do you make the ludicrous mental leap from "game downloads in the background" to "attention ******"? Downloading in the background is what's known worldwide as a "time saver". AKA, not having to look at a damn loading screen for a minute and a half. |
What I'm trying to say is that Freedom is geared towards showing itself off as much as possible. Free to try, no obligation, staged downloading, and some fresh content at the start. First impressions count, after all, and if this game really is going to use the free to play / freemium / whatever business model, there can be no half-way about it.
I still have... misgivings about F2P, and consider it to be a death omen in most cases, but I can't take issue with how they're going about it.
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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight
Yes.
I have problems with it not telling me what its downloading, or how big the file is. Once again not everyone has unlimited broadband. |
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This system should work well. Can't see why this would bother anyone, it is clearly explained when you start the game up.
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Um, when you click the "PLAY" button, aren't you giving consent? Do you currently examine every file that gets downloaded for a patch or, Rularuu forbid, a clean installation from scratch?|
Originally Posted by Bronze Knight
*Provided they possess a fiber-optic T-1 cable and unlimited broadband.
Once again games, or anything for that matter, downloading stuff without my consent on my computer is something I have an issue with. |
It sounds sort of like you're saying that you're incensed that players don't have to wait eight hours to download the entire installation package before installing.
Am I the only person who read the OP and thought he was complimenting the game? I interpreted his "screed" as yelling "Play me! PLAY ME! PLAY MEEEE!" in a good way. It's lipstick, not pig!
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
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Honestly you are being silly. I think their point is instead of a new player waiting X amount of time for the entire game to download, as soon as the costume creator is done, it opens and they can start creating their character. While they are working on that, the opening zones are downloading and will open as soon as they are done downloading or the person is done creating their character which ever is later and the while they play in the starting zone, the rest of the game is downloading.|
Originally Posted by Bronze Knight
Yes.
I have problems with it not telling me what its downloading, or how big the file is. Once again not everyone has unlimited broadband. |
This is no different than how it always would have worked except you get to start playing quicker.
Yeah, well I just had to reinstall the game and I can't play any of my characters until Stage 4 download is complete... but when will it be complete? The launcher doesn't tell me...
Am I expected to just sit at the character select screen and wait while it downloads the tutorial and mercy island and port oakes and atlas park and kings row? Or, I could do what I had planned to do and wait until it was all downloaded then play, BUT I have no clue how long that will be... because the launcher DOES NOT TELL ME.
They obviously are trying to copy another MMO's new patching system, but they failed at it when it can't load on demand. I want to log in to a character in Cap Au Diable it should say "Sorry, we need to load Cap Au Diable please wait" and download it then and there then voila... if I take the ferry to Nerva, it then immediately downloads Nerva giving me a special loading screen.
But really, please give us some indication on the launcher of what state the game is in and how much if at all we can play it.
Worst case. Exit the game. Stop the install. Exit the Launcher. Restart the Launcher. Restart the install.
Now you should have the installer window up and it should have the estimate.
Now should it be displayed in the game? Ideally yes but the game isn't the launcher and it's the launcher that's handling the download.
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Nope... the installer window no longer shows when it's doing a full install (which no i couldn't copy old version over or anything like that... NCSoft said to do a 100% fresh install to attempt to fix a bug that is very rare (probably not only me, but hell it could be). in fact.. .it DOES show in game... but that's not the point. Should be both places. Running the game slows the download.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Worst case. Exit the game. Stop the install. Exit the Launcher. Restart the Launcher. Restart the install.
Now you should have the installer window up and it should have the estimate. Now should it be displayed in the game? Ideally yes but the game isn't the launcher and it's the launcher that's handling the download. |
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I noticed something about the launcher and it's staged downloads so I'll post it here instead of starting a new thread. If you have stage 3 (Atlas Park) downloaded you can play in instance 1 but you can't switch instances using the train station because it says you don't have stage 4 downloaded.
This pretty much means that all new/free players will all get crammed into AP 1. Lag city here we come.
No, that's not what it means.
What it means is that new players will be placed into the first non-full instance where they can be placed. Just like what happens whenever you log into a zone that has full instances.
The problem is not with load balancing. The problem is that people who want to play together will be in different APs and will not be able to move between them.
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This thread again?
I had a character on a second install that got put in AP 1 despite it being full.
What the dickens is this thread doing here?
Complaining about not being able to use your mains until stage 4 is finished is silly given you used to have to wait until the entire game was downloaded to do anything.
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Okay, so let me get this straight. It's got free to play, they've revamped Atlas and Galaxy (at least) to look as nice as Praetoria, and you can hop in to play while the rest of the game downloads. I'd almost call the game an attention *****. "Play me! PLAY ME! PLAY MEEEE!"
Some have said the constant upgrades to the game are akin to putting lipstick on a pig. At this point, it's rather more like pig on a lipstick; there is very little left of the original pig. More like a cow, I guess.
Necrobond - 50 BS/Inv Scrapper made in I1
Rickar - 50 Bots/FF Mastermind
Anti-Muon - 42 Warshade
Ivory Sicarius - 45 Crab Spider
Aber ja, nat�rlich Hans nass ist, er steht unter einem Wasserfall.